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In Theory: How Does Lynnfield's On-Die PCI Express Affect Gaming?

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We've had Intel's Core i5 in the lab now for almost three months, benchmarking, overclocking, and fiddling with a bundle of pre-production motherboards. Along the way, we've raised questions and sought answers. One of those questions was largely theoretical, but we wanted defensible backup anyway: does the on-die PCI Express connectivity integrated into Intel's Core i5 and Core i7 CPUs for LGA 1156 have any affect on gaming performance?

All of these benchmarks were actually run before we even received a CPU sample from Intel. But because we knew we'd be running tests on the new i5 and i7 processors (and before we started interpreting data from those processors or their P55-based platform), it was important to figure out how much our gaming results would be affected by the CPUs themselves, with Turbo Boost and Hyper-Threading already serving as significant variables.

Asking The Right Questions

Knowing that these two new mainstream processor families incorporate 16 lanes of second-gen PCI Express on-die, yet tout CrossFire and SLI support, what happens to your frame rates when you run a single card in such a low-latency x16 interface? How about the effect of splitting that link into a pair of x8 connections? Will Core i5 handicap you right out of the gate with multi-card configurations?

Just for a bit of perspective, remember that Intel's P45 chipset also divides 16 lanes into a pair of x8 links when two AMD-based cards are installed. Thus, we're comparing Core i5 to P45 here, in addition to X58 and AMD's 790GX (the former serving up two x16 links while running in CrossFire, and the latter delivering a x8/x8 split).

Up until today, we’ve been all about Core i7-920 overclocked to somewhere around 4 GHz on an X58 motherboard with 6 GB of memory in a triple-channel arrangement. That’s a nearly-$600 proposition between the CPU, motherboard, and memory. If Core i5 can bring processor and motherboard prices down far enough, we’re guesstimating a price tag of $400-$425 with a drop to 4 GB of memory. Should Intel's new mainstream lineup proves fast enough, the ~$170 savings could translate to a “free” GeForce GTX 260 or Radeon HD 4870…so long as gaming performance is at least competitive with an LGA 1366-based Core i7, that is.

On-Die PCIe: A New Design Cue

As you likely already know, the Lynnfield design (on which the Core i5 and certain Core i7 processors center) includes 16 lanes of second-gen PCI Express. Why? Because the processor attaches to Intel’s P55 chipset via DMI (as opposed to Core i7’s single QPI link); there isn’t enough throughput between the two components for single-, much less dual-GPU communication.

Of course, this opens the door to some interesting performance-oriented questions. Does the on-die PCI Express link reduce latencies enough to improve performance with a single card installed versus Core i7? Does splitting the 16-lane connection into a pair of x8s make enough of a difference to manifest itself in gaming benchmarks with two cards installed?

How about the folks upgrading from Core 2 Quad machines, or those considering Phenom II as they wait to see what Core i5 will do?

We’ve put together the hardware needed to answer those questions from a fairly high level. Remember, these benchmarks were run on pre-production hardware for the purpose of answering a largely academic question. Turbo Boost was disabled on the LGA 1366 platform, as were all of the power-saving processor technologies that might otherwise skew our look at frame rates.

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tijmen007 10/09/2009 16:55
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Well... the results from Crysis were very disappointing. It got outpreformed by an previous generation CPU, ah come on...

Nice review, interesting to see how the Phenom II is doing.
AMD doesn't have to improve, Intel is getting worse for them. ( in my opinion )

mont 11/09/2009 12:52
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i keep seeing you reviewers bragging about core i7/i5 socket 1156 CPU's Turbo Mode giving it a major advantage or making it better than i7/X58 but how many people are actually going to run them at stock speeds? Once their overclocked Turbo Mode means nothing really, especially 1 and 2 core Turbo Mode. Also getting those 1 and 2 core multipliers is not easy, they dont always activate when games/apps are single/dual threaded because the other cores are still active and any background tasks or other executions will use the other free cores meaning that to consistently have the 1 and 2 core Turbo Mode multis you would actually have to disable the other 2 cores in the BIOS, which no one does even on the i7.

Did Intel throw all you guys a few sheckels to promote Lynnfield with this turbo Mode mantra?

philo-sofa 14/09/2009 14:54
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^^ Oh for *GODS SAKE* would you effing fanboi muppets STFU? What is this 'thing' nowadays that when a group doesn't like news they just generate their own, join a group of likeminded muppets, make your delusion expand by shouting constantly at everyone then sit back condemning the purveyors of the truth as liars? I bet Obama's going to kill your grandparents with a deathpanel eh?

Let me answer your question with another question; what effing proportion of people overclock? One in twenty, if that? I'm certainly going to clock my 860 to 4.0-4.2, but what about everyone else, and how do overclocked Nehalem architectures compare to overclocked Phenom II's? they lose. Period. I've benched them myself you utter muppet. Right now AMD are using a moderate revision of the Athlon 64 architecture, if Bulldozer comes out swinging and wins, I'll be happy, until then, deal with it.

And stop mindlessly attacking journalists who don't conform to your fanboy view of the world. L2compute FFS.

mont 14/09/2009 17:15
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whos the fanboy? sounds like the reviewer is and i am not sure what your problem is but i may seek counselling as your outrage and outburst over something thats pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things is a little alarming.

Why would Obama kill my grandparents?

mont 14/09/2009 17:18
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and if you dont overclock your i7 your basically giving up a free easy OC boost, atleast on the i7/X58, i have read that socket 1156 CPU's have a little trouble overclocking on stock voltage due to the PCI-E contoller and its voltage being tied in to other parts of the CPU.

chewing 14/09/2009 19:56
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I really dont get the core i5 platform. The processors are way too expensive and its a mainsream platform. Well, i think it pretty much fails as the price tag is high end.

philo-sofa 15/09/2009 09:37
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mont :
whos the fanboy? sounds like the reviewer is and i am not sure what your problem is but i may seek counselling as your outrage and outburst over something thats pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of things is a little alarming.Why would Obama kill my grandparents?



You are the fanboy, not the reviewer. This is because the reviewer is telling it like it is, and you are being a complete idiot to try and discredit a perfectly sane point they made - all because you don't like the truth. That kind of thinking is destructive. Seek counselling for that and maybe your comments will have some value.

re Obama, L2readinternationalnews

mont 15/09/2009 13:52
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Dont believe the hype, do, do, do, dont believe the hype.

philo-sofa 16/09/2009 03:31
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This is the issue; it's not hype.

It's like Toyota bringing out a car with, oh, I dunno a battery that recharges when one brakes and your saying "uhhh don't believe the hype - the batter only works when you brake, what if you never brake???" The only conclusion I can come to is that you and your brethren are 'beyond extreme' AMD fanboys, or that this is some kind of pathetic attempt at 'buzz marketing' by AMD.

I'll leave it to everyone with two brain cells to rub together to work out which option is more likely and less pathetic.

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