Uncompromising…Compromises?
This month’s $2,500 machine is our most powerful to date, but changes that came to market immediately after our purchase still left room for regret. Our biggest regret might be our choice of graphics cards, but how could we complain about parts that offered so much performance?
The problem, of course, is price--two Radeon HD 5870s are an awesome performance combination, but similar performance can be had for much less money in the dual-GPU Radeon HD 5970. The Radeon HD 5970 does require overclocking to exactly match a pair of Radeon HD 5870s, but both the single- and dual-GPU cards have similar overclocking limits imposed through card BIOS. Our only excuse was availability, but anyone who has tried to purchase ATI’s most recent graphics technology will likely tell you that this is a darned good excuse.
The next excessive expense was for storage, with each of our top-performing 2.0TB drives priced at $300. The same $600 could have purchased two 80GB Intel X25-M drives for better performance, but that would have left the system with less space than is typically required by a power user. A single 80GB SSD and single 2.0TB drive would have provided the worst of both worlds, with too little space to store a typical high-end set of program files on the 80GB drive and no redundant storage capability. While smaller hard drives don’t offer the same level of performance as our 2.0TB units do, a better “bang-for-the-buck” option probably would have been three 1.0TB drives in RAID 5.
Combining the cost savings of those two changes would have let us step-up to an X58 platform, a large enough liquid-cooling system to push the processor well beyond 4.0 GHz, and a more expensive case that could hold that liquid-cooling system internally. Such a system would have added support for future upgrades, such as a second dual-GPU graphics card. But we were stuck with a CPU that created far more than the expected level of heat, a CPU cooler that provided far less than the expected level of cooling, and a graphics system that maxed out our motherboard.
Yet choosing mainstream drives to step up platform features would have given this system's critics an equal amount of ammo to attack on a different front. That is to say, $2,500 might be just enough money to consider this as an expensive system, but it represents less than we would need to make a completely high-end build.
Future options include budget changes and/or a reprioritization of graphics, processing, and storage needs, and this is where we turn some of our decision-making responsibilities over to loyal readers. Should the next marathon include a dream system at twice the price? Should we instead adjust every system budget by a smaller amount to align with recent price increases? Should we stick to gaming or general-purpose power machines, rather than trying to create the best of both worlds? Your responses play a critical role in the direction of future builds.
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Hello ionut19! You probably just did the same thing as me and, like me, got redirected to the .uk site where the comments section is currently empty?
Something strikes me as a little weird on that system. Don't know what it is. Dunno, for a budget of $2,500 I would've thought you could've gotten a bit more.
GPB equivalent from Overclockers UK: £1,709.85
Matching budget I did a X58 version for £1,703.87:
i7 920
Asus P6T SE
6GB Corsair XMS3 1600MHz CAS8
2x Sapphire 5870
2x SpinPoint F3 1TB
Cogage True Spirit
Corsair HX850
LG BH08LS20 BD-RE
Antec 902
which is pretty much the same system to be honest. £75 exchanged the SpinPoint RAID for 1 SpinPoint F3 and a Samsung PB22-J 64GB SSD. Dropping the Blu-Ray burner to the equivalent LG Blu-Ray ROM would bring the system back under budget.
Maybe it's because just because I personally favour X58 over P55.
Something strikes me as a little weird on that system. Don't know what it is. Dunno, for a budget of $2,500 I would've thought you could've gotten a bit more.GPB equivalent from Overclockers UK: £1,709.85Matching budget I did a X58 version for £1,703.87:i7 920Asus P6T SE6GB Corsair XMS3 1600MHz CAS82x Sapphire 58702x SpinPoint F3 1TBCogage True SpiritCorsair HX850LG BH08LS20 BD-REAntec 902which is pretty much the same system to be honest. £75 exchanged the SpinPoint RAID for 1 SpinPoint F3 and a Samsung PB22-J 64GB SSD. Dropping the Blu-Ray burner to the equivalent LG Blu-Ray ROM would bring the system back under budget.Maybe it's because just because I personally favour X58 over P55.
So did the builder, but the P55 was used anyway in hopes of a better overclock on the newer CPU. That didn't work out. But anyway...the RAM was good RAM, for a good price, and it ran at over 1600 CAS 8 anyway. Now if that same cost-savings eye would have been put into a few other places, perhaps X58 and a big enough liquid cooler to chase that big overclock could have been purchased.
big enough liquid cooler to chase that big overclock could have been purchased.
That Cogage will easily cool the i7 920 up to 4GHz on its own, past that you'd need a good chip to exceed 4.2GHz anyway. And a better motherboard too perhaps.
That Cogage will easily cool the i7 920 up to 4GHz on its own, past that you'd need a good chip to exceed 4.2GHz anyway. And a better motherboard too perhaps.
Well, the i7-860 in the review would go to around 4.4 GHz on a huge air cooler with super-fast fans, but those weren't included in the purchase and were only used in diagnosing the O/C problems. You can get a 920 to 4.20 on a 2x120mm radiator.
So I read the "uncompromising compromise" conclusion page ( http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/buil [...] 8-16.html# ) and it seems like a lot of the build changes.
Using the original build as a basis, and the improvements that were suggested on the compromises page, what should I fit? If I bumped my budget up to $2750, would that help?
Any advice would be appreciated!
This should be called the "more money than sense" system.
This should be called the "more money than sense" system.
Hardly. This is about standard for a high-end gaming system.
More money than sense would have 3 5870s, Core i7 975 OC'ed to 4.2GHz, 12GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000MHz, 3 Intel 64GB Extreme SSDs in RAID 0 for system and water cool the lot.