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AVADirect's W860CU: Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Vs. GeForce GTX 285M

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Custom system builder AVADirect is one of the few companies to offer the flexibility of multiple graphics modules within the same notebook model. We used its high-end W860CU to compare AMD's and Nvidia's highest-performance mobile graphics processors.

Everyone’s idea of the “perfect system” is a little different, and that’s what drives enthusiasts towards the “build your own” market. But what if you can’t build your own? Power users have, for many years, begged for a standardized notebook form factor that would make “build your own” and “fully upgradeable” possible, but notebooks are far more sensitive to changes in technology than their desktop siblings. That is to say, if anyone ever did come up with a completely universal notebook form factor, a change in technology would make it obsolete before the owner ever got around to attempting a full upgrade.

However, many notebook components are standard or fall into a narrow range of interfaces governed by a standard. Most notebook drives, for example, employ a 2.5" form factor with a 9.5 mm z-height and SATA interface, making interchangeability between different models easy. The same is true of DDR3 SODIMM memory modules (and was previously true for DDR2 SODIMMs and 2.5” Ultra ATA drives).

Of these standards, the most interesting may be Nvidia’s MXM interface. What makes Nvidia's Mobile PCI Express Module (MXM) so interesting from the custom-build standpoint is that, even though it’s an Nvidia creation, many system manufacturers have used the format for their AMD-based graphics cards, too.

Of course, there is a little snag in the form of custom cooling, which still makes securing exactly the right parts for your own custom build a challenge. That’s why professional builders like AVADirect have become an important part of approximating your notebook dreams. The company sent us two custom-configured Clevo W860CU-based notebooks, identical in every aspect except for the graphics module and driver. Here’s the features table for the Mobility Radeon-based system:

AVADirect W860CU Component List
PlatformClevo W860CU Core i7 15.6" Barebone, Intel PM55 Express, MXM-III Discrete Graphics
CPUIntel Core i7-820QM Quad-Core 1.733 GHz, 2.5 GT/s QPI, 8MB L3 Cache, 45 nm, 45W, OEM
RAMKingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC3-10666 DDR3 1,333 MHz SDRAM SODIMM, CL9, 1.5V, Non-ECC
GraphicsRadeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5 Mobile Graphics Card
Display15.6" "Full HD" Glossy TFT, 1920x1080
Webcam2.0 Megapixel
AudioIntegrated HD Audio
CoolingArctic Cooling MX-2 High-Performance Thermal Compound
SecurityBuilt-in Fingerprint Reader
Storage
Hard DriveCorsair 128GB Nova Series SSD, MLC, 270/195 MB/s, 2.5", SATA 3 Gb/s, Retail
Optical DriveMatsushita UJ-130A Blu-ray Reader and Super-Multi DVD±RW
Media DriveMulti-Format Flash Card Interface
Networking
Wireless LANIntel WiFi Link 5300, IEEE 802.11a/b/g/Draft N, 11/54/450 Mb/s, Internal PCIe Half Mini Card
Wireless PANClevo Internal Bluetooth
Gigabit NetworkBuilt-in 10/100/1,000 Mb/s Ethernet
IEEE-1394Built-In Jmicron IEEE-1394 FireWire 400 controller
TelephonyIntegrated 56K V90/92 Fax/Modem
Power & Weight
AC Adapter120W Power Brick, 100-240V AC to 18.5V DC
Battery11.1V 3,800mAh (42.18Wh) Single
WeightNotebook 7.7 lbs., AC Adapter 1.6 lbs., Total 9.3 lbs.
Software
Operating SystemMicrosoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Edition, OEM
Accessories
 RJ11 Telephone Cord
DVI-I to VGA Adapter Block
Software/Documentation Binder
Deluxe Nylon Notebook Bag
Service
BackupOEM System Recovery (secure HDD partition only)
WarrantyStandard One-Year Warranty
Price$2,446.65


Standing in for Nvidia’s top part is its GeForce GTX 285M, a component that adds $56 to the cost of the above system. Engineers and other 3D-rendering professionals will be pleased to know that AVADirect also sells an upgrade for the Quadro FX 2800M, though its $705.50 price increase will frighten non-professionals.

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ksampanna 15/05/2010 11:13
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I must say I was under the impression that mobility graphic cards are similarly specced versions of their desktop counterparts & perform the same. Thanks to AVADirect & Toms for making me aware of my ignorance.

tranzz 15/05/2010 17:09
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Dirt 2 the full game has the benchmark feature at the bottom of the graphics options. You say it dosn't but I have double checked. Only diff is I run under XP.

Silmarunya 15/05/2010 17:54
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ksampanna :
I must say I was under the impression that mobility graphic cards are similarly specced versions of their desktop counterparts & perform the same. Thanks to AVADirect & Toms for making me aware of my ignorance.



Simple logic was enough to figure out it isn't the case. A Radeon 5870 is 11 inches long, way larger than you can fit in a laptop. It generates significantly more heat than a laptop can possibly dissipate. And the big one: a laptop has to be able to run on a battery at least for a while. It can't power a desktop graphics card for any length of time...

ErikO 20/05/2010 02:47
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I'd love to see the industry forced not to be able to name COMPLETELY DIFFERENT HARDWARE - ie.e graphic cards for laptops and desktops, via the same name.

'tis common sense.

Anonymous 20/05/2010 16:26
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why? It's built on the same architecture. Thought it would be pretty obvious it's going to be a mild alternative considering the space it has to fit in. Portable gaming should be left to ignorant people anyway. Buy a DS

Anonymous 29/05/2010 19:52
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I didn't see a mention of the max resolution of the two cards, the 5870 is the only of the two cards that can drive a 30" screen at 2560x1600 which is why i'm considering an upgrade.

Anonymous 29/05/2010 19:53
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I didn't see a mention of the max resolution of the two cards, the 5870 is the only of the two cards that can drive a 30" screen at 2560x1600 which is why i'm considering an upgrade.

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