All AMD 45nm Processor Models Compared
High-End/Mainstream: Phenom II X4 (Deneb Quad Core)
| Model | Clock Speed | Cores | Socket / Memory | TDP | L2 Cache | L3 Cache | Release | Hyper Transport |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Phenom II X4 965 BE | 3.4 GHz | 4 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 140W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 08/13/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
| Phenom II X4 955 BE | 3.2 GHz | 4 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 125W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 04/23/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
| Phenom II X4 945 | 3.0 GHz | 4 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 125W 95W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 04/23/2009 06/12/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
| Phenom II X4 940 BE | 3.0 GHz | 4 | AM2+ DDR2 | 125W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 01/08/2009 | 1.8 GHz |
| Phenom II X4 920 | 2.8 GHz | 4 | AM2+ DDR2 | 125W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 01/08/2009 | 1.8 GHz |
| Phenom II X4 910 | 2.6 GHz | 4 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 95W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 02/09/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
| Phenom II X4 905e | 2.5 GHz | 4 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 65W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 06/02/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
| Phenom II X4 900e | 2.4 GHz | 4 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 65W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 06/02/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
| Phenom II X4 820* | 2.8 GHz | 4 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 95W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 02/09/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
| Phenom II X4 810 | 2.6 GHz | 4 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 95W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 02/09/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
| Phenom II X4 805 | 2.5 GHz | 4 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 95W | 4 x 512KB | 6MB | 02/09/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
* new
Mainstream: Phenom II X3 (Heka Triple-Core, based on Deneb)
| Model | Clock Speed | Cores | Socket / Memory | TDP | L2 Cache | L3 Cache | Release | Hyper Transport |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Phenom II X3 740* | 3.0 GHz | 3 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 95W | 3 x 512 KB | 6MB | 09/16/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
Phenom II X3 720 BE | 2.8 GHz | 3 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 95W | 3 x 512KB | 6MB | 02/09/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
Phenom II X3 710 | 2.6 GHz | 3 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 95W | 3 x 512KB | 6MB | 02/09/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
Phenom II X3 705e | 2.5 GHz | 3 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 95W | 3 x 512KB | 6MB | 02/09/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
Phenom II X3 700e | 2.4 GHz | 3 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 95W | 3 x 512KB | 6MB | 02/09/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
* new
Mainstream: Phenom II X2 (Callisto Dual-Core, based on Deneb)
| Model | Clock Speed | Cores | Socket / Memory | TDP | L2 Cache | L3 Cache | Release | Hyper Transport |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Phenom II X2 550 BE | 3.1 GHz | 2 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 80W | 2 x 512KB | 6MB | 06/01/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
Phenom II X2 545 | 3.0 GHz | 2 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 80W | 2 x 512KB | 6MB | 06/01/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
Low Cost: Athlon II X2 (Regor Dual-Core)
| Model | Clock Speed | Cores | Socket / Memory | TDP | L2 Cache | L3 Cache | Release | Hyper Transport |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Athlon II X2 250 | 3.0 GHz | 2 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 65W | 2 x 1024KB | - | 06/02/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
Athlon II X2 245 | 2.9 GHz | 2 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 65W | 2 x 1024KB | - | 06/02/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
Athlon II X2 240 | 2.8 GHz | 2 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 65W | 2 x 1024KB | - | 06/02/2009 | 2.0 GHz |
Low Cost: Sempron (Sargas Single-Core)
| Model | Clock Speed | Cores | Socket / Memory | TDP | L2 Cache | L3 Cache | Release | Hyper Transport |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Sempron 140 | 2.7 GHz | 1 | AM3/AM2+ DDR3, DDR2 | 45 W | 1024KB | - | - | 2.0 GHz |
We will stop here, as we’ve listed all 45nm AMD processors. There still are lots of 65nm chips based on the quad-core Agena (Phenom 9000-series) and the triple-core Toliman (Phenom 8000), as well as the Athlon X2, which is based on the dual-core Kuma. All of them were designed for Socket AM2+ and DDR2 memory, but since the 45nm generation is compatible with both AM3/DDR3 and AM2+/DDR2, this is clearly the better choice.
New: Athlon II X3 and Athlon II X4
Today’s AMD processor introduction, the Athlon II X4, represents the first step to introducing Deneb-based triple- and quad-core processors that run without L3 caches. AMD started with the Athlon II X4 620 at 2.6 GHz, but two models at higher clock speeds will also be available shortly. The Athlon II X3 has already appeared on several roadmaps and will be introduced at the same time.
Other than that, AMD is about to switch from its C2 stepping to C3, which should reduce the TDP on a number of processors. For instance, the Phenom II X4 965 flagship is expected to go from 140W to 125W and the Phenom II X4 945 will change from 125W to 95W.
It would have been interesting to see a clock-for-clock comparison of a Phenom II X4 and Athlon II X4 to see the difference the L3 cache makes...
...However that does look like an attractive CPU, especially given the price. I can see this being very successful (might push for some of these in our next upgrade cycle!)
I completely agree with mi1ez. Will going through the review, as was really hoping that there would be some clock-for-clock comparison.
I can see OEM's selling theese like pancakes. Slap some cheap 1GB video card in and You have uber marketing. Quad core with 1GB Video card at low price, average uninformed Joes will be byuing these like crazy.
OEM's have been selling Q8200 with 1GB GTS120 for £700, now they can cut costs and still sell in same pricerange. People buy and think they got superpowerfull PC because it has quad core and it is gaming PC because it's got !GB video card
I hope after i5 and i7 price of core 2 q will go down, as well i5 is very cheap and comparing performance its not really standing out of the crowd, so once more core 2 rules, q9550 is a killer
I agree, it does seem like a very respectable product - especially the price. It's quad-core for the masses and to be honest, there does not seem to be a massive performance hit due to the missing L3, in my opinion.
If I was building a rig to play GTA IV I'd seriously consider this, because what I save on the CPU I can put towards a better graphics card. If it's good enough to run alongside Intel' Core 2 Quad, at a lower price, then I really can't see the problem - especially when there are people out there with AM2/AM2+ boards who want to step up the performance ladder a bit without breaking the bank or forcing the local power station to go on over-drive.
What has i5 to offer? It it's price is low it could render Core 2 as a redundant product, just like Core 2 did with Pentium 4. Plus, it carries with it overheads in terms of new boards and memory. The only alternative is to get a much faster (and more expensive), Core 2 Quad or overclock. Both are feasible of course, but this little Quad-core gem for 100 bux..a drop-in replacement for existing products that's able to fit within the existing power range? Hard to resist that in these tough economic times.
"and the fact that an average mainstream AMD motherboard is still cheaper than an Intel equivalent..." - erm - what planet are you living on? An entry level Intel G31 based motherboard sells for around £30 in the UK (which would easily support a C2Q Q9550 at full speed) whereas TH has chosen to benchmark this new AMD chip on a £110 motherboard!
If you're serious about touting this chip as an ideal drop in upgrade for an older AM2+ motherboard, benchmark it on such a board so at least us plebs can see how well it really performs.
All I can see on the AMD front around the £30 motherboard mark are GeForce 7050 or 6100 AM2+ based boards. The cheapest AM3 motherboard currently available in the UK is an MSI 770-C45 AMD 770 for £50.
Given that DDR3 is still around 1.5 times the price of DDR2, the only way to build a cheaper AMD based Quad core solution is by plugging it into an AM2+ motherboard with DDR2. So lets see some benchmarks of this chip in exactly that sort of set up.
Hiya Kulwant,
I wouldn't expect it to perform as good in an AM2+..if that were the case, wouldn't AMD be shooting itself in the foot, so to speak? On the other hand I wouldn't expect the actual difference to be huge, either.
For anyone that has an older system and wants some more grunt for say, transcoding or running games like GTA IV, I can't really see a problem with it especially at this price point. I reckon you'd be able to get some decent overclocks even on AM2+ as well. For around the same money as a dual-core CPU my clients can now go Quad, if they need it. Some do go AM3, and boards like that £50 seem to have an awful lot of bang for the buck compared to Intel, but most just have older boards that need a bit of a boost. The Intel alternative is simply beyond their price point but naturally it comes down to who the client is and their personal preference.
Would it have been so hard to include the Phenom II 720 X3 BE ? 3 core curiosity to compare vs these processors?
Here's a quick way to compare relative performance:
Normalized Performance Rating CPU chart
AMD Phenom II X3 720 BE Heka 3 AM3 x64, SSE4A 4.10
AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 4 AM3 x64, SSE4A 3.93
Hardly any difference just ~4%, so it's more about price than performance between those two.
Thanks Rescator. If Santa doesn't bring me one of these I'm gonna kick him in the belly 16 times for every core I lose out on.
i got an II X4 620 (the AMD II X2 the retail heatsink does not warm up under full load) and there is no heat issues at all the thing runs at 35-40c constantly removing the L3 cache really does lower the temps a lot even the Phemon II runs hot when its idle
now i can use an Quad core AMD cpu with out having to buy an very big heatsink to cool it
just bare in mind guys. its a quadcore from athlon, and although it's not specified,it's 2.6GHz per processor. which means this darn chip doesn't actualy need a meter of cpu usage because it's four times faster and could possibly have no limits. i say thumbz up to athlon. i really need to get myself one of these.