E5-2650 or 2nd gen ryzen for server project?

hey all, ive been looking over parts, and considering options for a sever project im planning. i was originally planning on using the ryzen 1800X as it seems like a beastly 8 core, thought i was going to try holding out for zen 2 if i could. to that end i was exploring a different option, when i can across this reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/7vx6bv/diy_nas_server/



and a comment about xeons caught my eye, which lead me to this:]

https://ark.intel.com/products/64590/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2650-20M-Cache-2_00-GHz-8_00-GTs-Intel-QPI



and a search led me to this: https://www.ebay.com/p/Intel-Xeon-E5-2650-2GHz-Eight-Core-CM8062100856218-Processor/115945109?iid=273053873153&thm=3100



so, my first question is, for a server i intend use as a handbreak machine, minecraft server, tonido/ file server would the xeon be a better option than the ryzen chip, despite being discontinued? as far as i see, their both 64 bit chip, w/ 8/16. the only difference being the the xeon uses DDR3, and is on the older 2011---which brings me to my next question..



because the E5-2650 is a 2011 socket chip, does that mean if i can get a consumer grade 2011 mobo, drop it in, through on a good cooler, and im good to go? or am i miss-informing myself?



sorry for long post, but thanks.
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  1. Each motherboard has a list of supported CPUs provided on the manufacturer's website. Choose a motherboard, then check the manufacturer's website for support of the specific chip you are interested in.
  2. That's a Sandy Bridge era Xeon, so a consumer motherboard with the Z68 or Z77 chipset would be your best shot. I just did a random "Asus Z77" search and found a motherboard that supports some Xeons, not that one but some other ones. So I'd do a search for more Z77 motherboards.

    A downside of using older Xeons is that they can be hard to match with a wide range of motherboard, usually your choices are limited. Not only that, but some of the older Xeon friendly motherboards can still demand a high price.
  3. hey again, i did alot of digging, and i came across these : https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Open-box-ASUS-SABERTOOTH-X79-Socket-2011-Intel-Motherboard/232654797085?epid=114542237&hash=item362b4e791d:g:dqwAAOSwf15ad239

    and :https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P9X79-LGA-2011-Socket-R-Intel-Motherboard/323050513655?epid=127392280&hash=item4b374fa4f7:g:scAAAOSwl2haQXc-

    it would seem these boards offer what i want, but what i cant seem to find is if they support raid 1+0 (20TB raw, 10TB usable), would ither of these boards support that config?
  4. thehardwarehacker said:
    hey again, i did alot of digging, and i came across these : https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Open-box-ASUS-SABERTOOTH-X79-Socket-2011-Intel-Motherboard/232654797085?epid=114542237&hash=item362b4e791d:g:dqwAAOSwf15ad239

    and :https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P9X79-LGA-2011-Socket-R-Intel-Motherboard/323050513655?epid=127392280&hash=item4b374fa4f7:g:scAAAOSwl2haQXc-

    it would seem these boards offer what i want, but what i cant seem to find is if they support raid 1+0 (20TB raw, 10TB usable), would ither of these boards support that config?


    That motherboard supports V2 CPUs your original post was for the V1 E5-2xxx CPU -- https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P9X79/HelpDesk_CPU/

    If you are going to mess with E5-2xxx CPUs why would you not just buy a complete workstation? Get a Z800 or a Dell T series. Then there is no question on compatibility.
  5. kanewolf said:
    thehardwarehacker said:
    hey again, i did alot of digging, and i came across these : https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Open-box-ASUS-SABERTOOTH-X79-Socket-2011-Intel-Motherboard/232654797085?epid=114542237&hash=item362b4e791d:g:dqwAAOSwf15ad239

    and :https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-P9X79-LGA-2011-Socket-R-Intel-Motherboard/323050513655?epid=127392280&hash=item4b374fa4f7:g:scAAAOSwl2haQXc-

    it would seem these boards offer what i want, but what i cant seem to find is if they support raid 1+0 (20TB raw, 10TB usable), would ither of these boards support that config?


    That motherboard supports V2 CPUs your original post was for the V1 E5-2xxx CPU -- https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P9X79/HelpDesk_CPU/

    If you are going to mess with E5-2xxx CPUs why would you not just buy a complete workstation? Get a Z800 or a Dell T series. Then there is no question on compatibility.


    oh shoot, i forgot i hadn't switched this question over the the E5- 2640 V2 on this thread yet. my bad.
  6. so, after more digging, i discovered that any mobo that supports the 2650 is ither out of my price range, or only supports DDR4. what i found next is this sabertooth x79

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Open-box-ASUS-SABERTOOTH-X79-Socket-2011-Intel-Motherboard/232654797085?epid=114542237&hash=item362b4e791d:g:dqwAAOSwf15ad239

    it takes DDR3, so no selling the leg for DDR4



    which supports the E5-2640 V2, which start at less than $100

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-E5-2640-V2-SR19Z-8-Core-2-00GHz-20MB-Socket-2011-Server-CPU/112745313658?epid=2196421535&hash=item1a4024f57a:g:e24AAOSwRE5aVU76



    something i did just notice though, i was planning on a 4 HDD RAID for the 'file storage' part of this server. would this board be ok for a raid 0+1 config (20 TB raw, 10 TB usablle)
  7. You can't get 20TB RAW and 10TB usable with RAID10 of 4TB disks. You have to have an even number of drives. You would have to have 6 4TB disks and get 12TB usable. I doubt that there are 6 SATA ports on the same controller on a consumer motherboard. I would not recommend using motherboard RAID controller for a storage server. If the motherboard fails, it is very difficult to recover the storage. With a RAID controller card, you can move it and the drives to a new motherboard and have a good chance of saving all your data.
  8. kanewolf said:
    You can't get 20TB RAW and 10TB usable with RAID10 of 4TB disks. You have to have an even number of drives. You would have to have 6 4TB disks and get 12TB usable. I doubt that there are 6 SATA ports on the same controller on a consumer motherboard. I would not recommend using motherboard RAID controller for a storage server. If the motherboard fails, it is very difficult to recover the storage. With a RAID controller card, you can move it and the drives to a new motherboard and have a good chance of saving all your data.


    i didnt say '4 TB disks' i said 4 HDD's. i was going to use 2 sets of 4TB + 6TB HDDs
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