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What motherboard should i buy?

I have already written a post about this topic. I want to know what motherboard is the best, according with these specs:
-ddr3 RAM
-atx
-AM3+(I have an AMD FX-6300, but i will buy a ryzen, and i want a motherboard that works with them both)
-lights(if it is possible)
-arround 100-150€
So what do you recommend? By the way, I like msi, I don't know if there are any msi motherboard with that specs.
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  1. DDR3 is out of question for Ryzen, it must be DDR4 !!!
    Which Ryzen do you want ? , higher ones warrant good MB.
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  2. CountMike said:
    DDR3 is out of question for Ryzen, it must be DDR4 !!!
    Which Ryzen do you want ? , higher ones warrant good MB.


    Well, here's your problem. Ryzen requires DDR4 and socket AM4 so your mobo and ram is out of the question if you want ryzen.
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  3. hackfederico495 said:
    (I have an AMD FX-6300, but i will buy a ryzen, and i want a motherboard that works with them both)


    That is not possible.
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  4. So, making new questions
    -is there any motherboard compatible with both DDR3 and DDR4?
    -if there is no motherboard compatible with both DDR3 and DDR4(because i don't want to throw my actual RAM), which is the processor that you recommend to my actual AM3+ motherboard?
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  5. Ryzen generation is build upon DDR4 which came out in 2014 (yes the whole platform,can't use DDR3 neither will it), i think you mixed Intel with Ryzen, Intel has boards which can use DDR3 and newer generation CPU's if you wanted that but these board are a bit priced (not all).

    Here's what you could buy with budget
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor (£51.59 @ Aria PC)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B150M-D2V DDR3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£50.57 @ Ebuyer)
    Total: £102.16
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-08 13:26 GMT+0000

    You may need ask before you buy the seller if he can update motherboards bios to latest point.

    Update: Or save money for new build as DRagor said. i agree.
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  6. hackfederico495 said:
    So, editing the question
    -what motherboard and CPU do you recommend, withouth changing my RAM?


    It would be hard to recommend anything. There are no good AMD setups that use DDR3, and while 4th gen Intel CPU could give you a respectable performance, those CPUs and their motherboards are now rather costly, definitely outside 100-150 € budget. I'd say your options are either get just motherboard for your Fx-6300 (cheap option), or gather more money and make complete system swap (CPU+mobo+RAM).
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  7. DRagor said:
    hackfederico495 said:
    So, editing the question
    -what motherboard and CPU do you recommend, withouth changing my RAM?


    It would be hard to recommend anything. There are no good AMD setups that use DDR3, and while 4th gen Intel CPU could give you a respectable performance, those CPUs and their motherboards are now rather costly, definitely outside 100-150 € budget. I'd say your options are either get just motherboard for your Fx-6300 (cheap option), or gather more money and make complete system swap (CPU+mobo+RAM).


    Some Phenom II Athlon II FX series, and I think even some 3000 series Opterons work in am3+
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  8. So, probably i will upgrade everything.
    -if there is a motherboard that holds DDR3 and DDR4, which motherboard is that?
    -if not, what motherboard and what medium-budget processor (better than my fx-6300, or at the level of an i5)do you recommend?
    -what ddr4 ram do you recommend(if i buy 16 gb of ddr4, there will be a lot of difference from 8 gb DDR4??)
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  9. hackfederico495 said:
    So, probably i will upgrade everything.
    -if there is a motherboard that holds DDR3 and DDR4, which motherboard is that?
    -if not, what motherboard and what medium-budget processor (better than my fx-6300, or at the level of an i5)do you recommend?
    -what ddr4 ram do you recommend(if i buy 16 gb of ddr4, there will be a lot of difference from 8 gb DDR4??)


    There is not even one motherboard that allows both DDR3 and DDR4.
    Upgrading everything, it's best to go for newest generation. So either 8th gen Intel (even a lowly i3-8100 will beat the crap out of your fx-6300) or Ryzen (whichever fits your budget, from R3 1200 to R5 1600). However, if at all possible I would wait. Soon there should be new, cheap boards for 8th Intel gen (though we still don't know for sure WHEN), and around April there will be new Ryzen CPUs.
    DDR4 depends on CPU you choose. For example, for i3 8100 it matters little, even cheapest 2133 Mhz would do fine. But for Ryzen, you want both faster and more 'tuned' with chosen motherboard, as Ryzen motherboards often refuse to work with certain RAM types. 8 or 16? Does not matter much - more the better of course, but even 8 Gb will do for now if you would be constrained by budget.
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  10. hackfederico495 said:
    So, probably i will upgrade everything.
    -if there is a motherboard that holds DDR3 and DDR4, which motherboard is that?
    -if not, what motherboard and what medium-budget processor (better than my fx-6300, or at the level of an i5)do you recommend?
    -what ddr4 ram do you recommend(if i buy 16 gb of ddr4, there will be a lot of difference from 8 gb DDR4??)


    No motherboard (that i know of) uses both ddr3 and ddr4, also i'd recommend get an AM4 system and going with Ryzen 5 or 7 which should be way way faster than your FX
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  11. But what ram? I wanr specific models
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  12. hackfederico495 said:
    But what ram? I wanr specific models


    Ryzen requires DDR4, the higher speed the better but don't go over 3000mhz or you will most likely have issues. G.Skill's Trident Z is straight RGB cancer if your into that.
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  13. So, can you give me the links for the amd ryzen 5 and for the ram, and also for the motherboard that is better for it(ATX)

    Wil this one be good?

    https://www.amazon.es/gp/aw/d/B06XKWT8J4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?__mk_es_ES=ÅMÅZÕÑ&qid=1518111466&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=ryzen+5&dpPl=1&dpID=31YLAELiLZL&ref=plSrch
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  14. I will wait until april, as DRagor says, and if the new ryzens are too expensive, i will buy the ryzen 5.
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  15. hackfederico495 said:
    So, can you give me the links for the amd ryzen 5 and for the ram, and also for the motherboard that is better for it(ATX)

    Wil this one be good?

    https://www.amazon.es/gp/aw/d/B06XKWT8J4/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?__mk_es_ES=ÅMÅZÕÑ&qid=1518111466&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=ryzen+5&dpPl=1&dpID=31YLAELiLZL&ref=plSrch


    Yes that will be fine, do it with the Gigabyte motherboard combo that seams like a really good deal for a Ryzen 5 and a B350 Motherboard.
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  16. hackfederico495 said:
    I will wait until april, as DRagor says, and if the new ryzens are too expensive, i will buy the ryzen 5.


    If you wait until AMD launches the second gen Ryzen CPU's the first gen ones should drop in price, but be aware that some motherboards that support 2nd gen Ryzen might not support first gen or some features for 2nd gen might not work on the 1st gen Ryzen CPU's
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  17. so, are these the final links?
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  18. DRagor said:


    If you want to do a Ryzen build i can probably spec one out for you on the cheap end, but I can't now I'm leaving soon.
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  19. I will buy it by mysekf, thanks anyway. But if you can recommend me a motherboard ATX for that CPU and that RAM.
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  20. So, do you recommend buying an intel with that motherboard or another motherboard, another ram and the rizen?
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  21. Best answer
    Intel build: (note that you could use much cheaper motherboard, but they don't exist yet)
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i3-8100 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor (€99.10 @ Amazon Espana)
    Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€120.45 @ Amazon Espana)
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€96.80 @ Amazon Espana)
    Total: €316.35
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-09 14:28 CET+0100

    Ryzen build:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (€98.99 @ Amazon Espana)
    Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (€74.75 @ Amazon Espana)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€110.54 @ Electronicamente)
    Total: €284.28
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-02-09 14:27 CET+0100
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  22. hackfederico495 said:
    So, do you recommend buying an intel with that motherboard or another motherboard, another ram and the rizen?


    Well, it depends. What exactly are you going to be doing with this system? Intel and Ryzen are better at different things. Intel is good for gaming due to its better single threaded performance, but Ryzen dominates in multithreaded tasks where it requires more cores rather than a higher clock speed to be fast, so Ryzen for things like streaming or other CPU core intensive tasks that benieit from more cores rather than speed.
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  23. I will take the ryzen 3.
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  24. hackfederico495 said:
    I will take the ryzen 3.


    Good choice, look for a socket AM4 motherboard that has all the bells and whistles you need. AM3 or AM3+ will not work for Ryzen it needs DDR4 and socket AM4
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