Not sure what to upgrade to

Currently I have an i5-4440. I was wondering if I should upgrade to an i7 of some sort. The reason i am considering upgrading is because I have a Geforce GTX 1070 and I feel like my PC is bottlenecking and should be performing alot better than it currently is. I don't know alot about CPU's so I'm not sure what I should upgrade to. Money isn't an issue but I would like the price to be around or below $400. I like to play game like ArmA 3 and DayZ and I've heard that those games are pretty CPU intensive. I am also interested in streaming and I get some issues when doing that as well.

Thanks in advance!
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  1. an I 7 depend son the motherboard you have
    Yes it is possible, new I7- may it be 4770, 4770K, 4960 or 4960k will run you about 350-450 all by itself.
    used i7 will run about 180-250 depending on ebay auction
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  2. The 8400 will pair well with that GPU.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.89 @ B&H)
    Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Killer SLI/ac ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill - NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($93.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $413.87
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-02 15:44 EST-0500
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  3. To verify bottlenecking, you can download MSI Afterburner to monitor CPU/GPU/RAM usage. If any of them running at or near 100% then that one is bottleneck your system.
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  4. The Paladin said:
    an I 7 depend son the motherboard you have
    Yes it is possible, new I7- may it be 4770, 4770K, 4960 or 4960k will run you about 350-450 all by itself.
    used i7 will run about 180-250 depending on ebay auction



    I opened up CPU-Z and went to Mainboard tab.
    Model: Gateway DX4885
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  5. since your i5-4440 is 84w, I will have a hard time without finding more info on the motherbvoard TDP.
    so I will suggest safe solutions, 4770 (84w) 4770S (65w) , 4790S (65w)

    the 4770K and 4970K are 95W CPUs I would not upgrade to those. Not until you get a confirmation that gateway board is a 95TDP Motherboard.
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  6. I looked further and you could go for 4770, 4771, 4790 all are 84w like your current i5-4440
    here is the Intel Compare Sheets with all 4 side by side
    https://ark.intel.com/compare/75038,80806,75122,77656
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  7. The Paladin said:
    since your i5-4440 is 84w, I will have a hard time without finding more info on the motherbvoard TDP.
    so I will suggest safe solutions, 4770 (84w) 4770S (65w) , 4790S (65w)

    the 4770K and 4970K are 95W CPUs I would not upgrade to those. Not until you get a confirmation that gateway board is a 95TDP Motherboard.



    How do I find out if my board is a 95TDP Motherboard?
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  8. Hi there, if you are purely looking for performance for a good price. I would go for the AMD Ryzen 5 1600X or the Ryzen 7 1700X. These both have very good value for money and are extremely powerful. They have 6 Cores, 12 Threads and 8 Cores, 16 Threads respectively. Most Intel CPUs have 4 Cores and between 4&8 Threads. You will however need to purchase a Motherboard with an AM4 Socket.
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  9. Quote:
    How do I find out if my board is a 95TDP Motherboard?


    first must Apologies, I made a mistake, the 4770K and 4790K are not 95w but 88W (see what lack of sleep will do..)

    You can safely use the following model I7 CPUs: 4770(84w), 4770S(65w), 4771(84w), 4790(84w),or 4790S(65W)
    And likely use without a problem use 4770K(88W) or , 4790K(88W) ** read note below **

    ** Note**
    Now before you rush to get a 4770K or 4790K and think of overclocking the snot out of it, your Gateway Motherboard isn't design to deal with overclocking. yes its likely to use the K CPU without a problem , but when you stress the motherboard other components by overclocking it, your likely to end up breaking your motherboard. HP, Gateway, Dell, Acer etc. get OEM boards for the cheapest price and that means lack of heat-sinks on certain components, cheaper trace lines etc... I strongly do not recommend to get a K cpu with your board.

    Tell you what ; Overclocking requires a few thing to even happen, main one is the Bios in your system has the abilities to change voltages and clock multiplier for example, so a quick look into your bios will tell you if you have such options or not (doubtful gateway and other makes of prebuilt usually lock the bios from those abilities), so jump into your bios if you see those options available get a K cpu if not don't waste money and get the 4790 or 4771 or 4770 and enjoy it
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  10. http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/ms-7829-mainboard-specifications-7252012h80/

    MAX 84watts DX4885

    However a no overclocking 88watt 4790 works fine I have same and tried it. 4 watts is negligible.
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  11. A full upgrade is going to be pretty expensive. DDR4 RAM by itself will be about $90 for only 8GB of 2400MHz RAM. You can get a decent motherboard for about $80-110 or so, leaving roughly $200 for the CPU. With that your options are going to be limited to the Ryzen 1600, i7 8400, or i7 8350k. In general, I believe the 8350k will be better for gaming since it can be overclocked to about 4.8GHz with decent cooling on a decent motherboard, but in general the 1600 would probably be a lot better. 8400 is also an option but lacks the hyper threading that the 1600 has. The 1600 also prefers more expensive, faster RAM.

    It's really up for debate what ACTUALLY performs better, because a lot of benchmarks do not take into account that Ryzen works better with faster RAM.

    Also given the Meltdown issue with Intel I would say it is probably a lot better to go with Ryzen at this point.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($198.89 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: MSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($119.99 @ Amazon)
    Total: $384.86
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-11 13:20 EST-0500
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  12. (In regards to my last post) Other options:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i3-8350K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.90 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $399.86
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-11 13:21 EST-0500


    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($200.88 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($111.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $400.85
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-11 13:22 EST-0500


    I believe the Ryzen build will be better in General. A lot of games prefer Intel though so it could be a tossup at times.
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