Upgrading pc for better performence

My specs are:
Mother board A68-HM plus
Power supply cx 450 corsair
CPU A8 7650k
GPU gtx 1050 (not TI)
8 GB crucial ddr 3 memory
1 TB HDD

Im looking to upgrade my pc to play more demanding games like gta v on high/ultra options h1z1 and maybe even pubg even on low but with at least 50fps +

Tell my what i should upgrade and maybe to what i mean from this cpu to what other cpu thanks for help guys
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  1. first thing upgrade yoour PSU. get at least a 550W instead. second your ram. get 2x8GB 2400Mhz (XMP enable) to increase your ram bandwidth.
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  2. marksavio said:
    first thing upgrade yoour PSU. get at least a 550W instead. second your ram. get 2x8GB 2400Mhz (XMP enable) to increase your ram bandwidth.


    U think that 450 w can hold back other components? And i was thinking about getting 1 more 8 gb stick so its 16
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  3. since you will defintely be upgrading your components later on. a 550~650W is the most baseline PSU power you should have. 450W is really cutting it close and you will run a high risk of undervoltage on some of your hardware which will cause you some headaches "why is my pc getting slow? why did it shutdown?" kinda thing. and on top of that youll be adding more USB components. or if youll be upgrading your board to a overclocking/gaming one at least u wont worry if u got enough power. so defintely dont cheap out on the PSU. ur choice of brand corsair is good enough. they have a good line of PSUs.
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  4. marksavio said:
    since you will defintely be upgrading your components later on. a 600/650W is the most baseline PSU power you should have. 450W is really cutting it close and you will run a high risk of undervoltage on some of your hardware which will cause you some headaches "why is my pc getting slow? why did it shutdown?" kinda thing. and on top of that youll be adding more USB components. or if youll be upgrading your board to a overclocking/gaming one at least u wont worry if u got enough power. so defintely dont cheap out on the PSU. ur choice of brand corsair is good enough. they have a good line of PSUs.


    Yea thats kinda right what u think about the ram doe?
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  5. your board supports dual channel. as long as its the same frequency clockspeed and latency. same brand of course. but you run a risk of the RAM sticks not working together to achieve that dual channel bandwidth. adding more RAM from a 8Gb to 16Gb will usually give you a very noticable performance boost on your OS. but your games dont care if its single or dual channel. it will perform the same anyawys. and your games willh ave more RAM to work with so it may increase your FPS by 10 or so.

    so if you dont want to throw away your 8GB RAM, just buy any with same DDR3 freq (Mhz). and CAS if possible. and brand. or even the exact same one to have that dual channel.
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  6. marksavio said:
    your board supports dual channel. as long as its the same frequency clockspeed and latency. same brand of course. but you run a risk of the RAM sticks not working together to achieve that dual channel bandwidth. adding more RAM from a 8Gb to 16Gb will usually give you a very noticable performance boost on your OS. but your games dont care if its single or dual channel. it will perform the same anyawys. and your games willh ave more RAM to work with so it may increase your FPS by 10 or so.

    so if you dont want to throw away your 8GB RAM, just buy any with same DDR3 freq (Mhz). and CAS if possible. and brand. or even the exact same one to have that dual channel.


    So its better to have 2x4gb but with better freq and latency?

    And is there a good cpu to work with on that motherboard because lot of people say that this cpu bottle necks my gpu
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  7. That cpu would massively hold you back on gta 5. You should upgrade to at least an i5 or ryzen. I'd recommend a cpu upgrade and 8 gb of additional ram. Ram speed isn't going to make nearly as much of a difference as a cpu upgrade would in your case.
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  8. yes it does. but adding better RAM wont solve that problem tho. only getting a better CPU will solve it. BUT if you have worse memory bandwidth or less clockspeed on your RAM, it will make that bottleneck worse. having at least 30% more ram than the vram/memory of your GPU is advisable and enough.
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  9. Tensai30 said:
    That cpu would massively hold you back on gta 5. You should upgrade to at least an i5 or ryzen.

    I dont know what would be compatible with that motherboard and i play know it holds back because i play it i get 30-60 fps 30 while driving and 60 while just running around on high settings i tried to hide it with motion blur but in other games like h1z1 i get the same thing and its not a type of game to put motion blur on.
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  10. marksavio said:
    yes it does. but adding better RAM wont solve that problem tho. only getting a better CPU will solve it. BUT if you have worse memory bandwidth or less clockspeed on your RAM, it will make that bottleneck worse. having at least 30% more ram than the vram/memory of your GPU is advisable and enough.


    Technically he needs a better gpu and cpu and I would say focus on that before thinking about ram. He seems to want to play at higher fps and that isn't going to happen even if he does add faster ram.
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  11. neversurrender13 said:
    Tensai30 said:
    That cpu would massively hold you back on gta 5. You should upgrade to at least an i5 or ryzen.

    I dont know what would be compatible with that motherboard and i play know it holds back because i play it i get 30-60 fps 30 while driving and 60 while just running around on high settings i tried to hide it with motion blur but in other games like h1z1 i get the same thing and its not a type of game to put motion blur on.


    Unfortunately you're going to need a motherboard upgrade no matter what. There just isn't anything worth upgrading to on that platform. Best suggestion I can give you to lower the cost is to try to sell your components and maybe get 2nd hand.
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  12. Tensai30 said:
    neversurrender13 said:
    Tensai30 said:
    That cpu would massively hold you back on gta 5. You should upgrade to at least an i5 or ryzen.

    I dont know what would be compatible with that motherboard and i play know it holds back because i play it i get 30-60 fps 30 while driving and 60 while just running around on high settings i tried to hide it with motion blur but in other games like h1z1 i get the same thing and its not a type of game to put motion blur on.


    Unfortunately you're going to need a motherboard upgrade no matter what. There just isn't anything worth upgrading to on that platform. Best suggestion I can give you to lower the cost is to try to sell your components and maybe get 2nd hand.


    U know any good but cheap motherboards? I would rather invest more in a new cpu than mb
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  13. neversurrender13 said:
    Tensai30 said:
    neversurrender13 said:
    Tensai30 said:
    That cpu would massively hold you back on gta 5. You should upgrade to at least an i5 or ryzen.

    I dont know what would be compatible with that motherboard and i play know it holds back because i play it i get 30-60 fps 30 while driving and 60 while just running around on high settings i tried to hide it with motion blur but in other games like h1z1 i get the same thing and its not a type of game to put motion blur on.


    Unfortunately you're going to need a motherboard upgrade no matter what. There just isn't anything worth upgrading to on that platform. Best suggestion I can give you to lower the cost is to try to sell your components and maybe get 2nd hand.


    U know any good but cheap motherboards? I would rather invest more in a new cpu than mb


    What cpu were you thinking of going with? Type of motherboard depends on the cpu. Did you need a cpu recommendation as well? I can recommend parts but prices vary by region so I'm not sure how much stuff costs where you are.
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    What cpu were you thinking of going with? Type of motherboard depends on the cpu.


    I see people saying nvidia goes better with intel so ill stay with that

    And yes i need a part recommendation im new in pc stuff never messed with it just played on a shitty laptop
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  15. neversurrender13 said:
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    What cpu were you thinking of going with? Type of motherboard depends on the cpu.


    I see people saying nvidia goes better with intel so ill stay with that



    Whether you have amd or nvidia makes no difference on cpu performance. But as far as gaming is concerned. Intel has better single core performance even after ryzen so games usually work better. If you do go with intel, which cpu would you like to go with? It's not the same board for every intel cpu.
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  16. You typically see (more in the past before amd ryzen) a lot of people pairing Nvidia with Intel because those are the top performers. However your video card is relatively low end so it's going to be very hard to bottleneck it with any modern cpu.
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  17. Tensai30 said:
    neversurrender13 said:
    Quote:
    What cpu were you thinking of going with? Type of motherboard depends on the cpu.


    I see people saying nvidia goes better with intel so ill stay with that



    Whether you have amd or nvidia makes no difference on cpu performance. But as far as gaming is concerned. Intel has better single core performance even after ryzen so games usually work better. If you do go with intel, which cpu would you like to go with? It's not the same board for every intel cpu.


    Thats the thing im not looking forward to change gpu so idk if i5 would be good and if not can u give some examples of good cpu's with mb im in kinda budget right now cuz i only got £50 but will save more
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  18. Well an i5 would assure you 60fps on every title as long as your settings are low enough (because of your gpu). You could upgrade the cpu now and have smooth fps and upgrade your gpu later when you have the money to get a better experience/higher settings. As far as which I5, like I said before I'm not sure what prices are like there (I live in Taiwan) but I would generally recommend 6th gen-8th gen if you can so you don't have to upgrade your cpu any time soon. But be warned that anything past 6th gen would require dd4 memory. So if that's too much, maybe 5th gen. I'm currently using a 6600k myself and performance has been rock solid. I've had this cpu through 3 gpu upgrades (970-1070-1080ti) and still don't feel the need to replace it. The choice is really yours but ultimately 8th gen would be the most future proof with more cores. If 8th gen is out of your reach I'd say go with 5th or 6th-7th gen if you can get the ram.
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  19. Tensai30 said:
    You typically see (more in the past before amd ryzen) a lot of people pairing Nvidia with Intel because those are the top performers. However your video card is relatively low end so it's going to be very hard to bottleneck it with any modern cpu.


    Tensai30 said:
    Well an i5 would assure you 60fps on every title as long as your settings are low enough (because of your gpu). You could upgrade the cpu now and have smooth fps and upgrade your gpu later when you have the money to get a better experience/higher settings. As far as which I5, like I said before I'm not sure what prices are like there (I live in Taiwan) but I would generally recommend 6th gen-8th gen if you can so you don't have to upgrade your cpu any time soon. But be warned that anything past 6th gen would require dd4 memory. So if that's too much, maybe 5th gen. I'm currently using a 6600k myself and performance has been rock solid. I've had this cpu through 3 gpu upgrades (970-1070-1080ti) and still don't feel the need to replace it. The choice is really yours but ultimately 8th gen would be the most future proof with more cores. If 8th gen is out of your reach I'd say go with 5th or 6th-7th gen if you can get the ram.


    I'm thinking to go with the 5th gen and buy 1 more ram stick 8gb ddr3 to make it 16 but still what motherboard would i need to get?
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  20. neversurrender13 said:
    Tensai30 said:
    You typically see (more in the past before amd ryzen) a lot of people pairing Nvidia with Intel because those are the top performers. However your video card is relatively low end so it's going to be very hard to bottleneck it with any modern cpu.


    Tensai30 said:
    Well an i5 would assure you 60fps on every title as long as your settings are low enough (because of your gpu). You could upgrade the cpu now and have smooth fps and upgrade your gpu later when you have the money to get a better experience/higher settings. As far as which I5, like I said before I'm not sure what prices are like there (I live in Taiwan) but I would generally recommend 6th gen-8th gen if you can so you don't have to upgrade your cpu any time soon. But be warned that anything past 6th gen would require dd4 memory. So if that's too much, maybe 5th gen. I'm currently using a 6600k myself and performance has been rock solid. I've had this cpu through 3 gpu upgrades (970-1070-1080ti) and still don't feel the need to replace it. The choice is really yours but ultimately 8th gen would be the most future proof with more cores. If 8th gen is out of your reach I'd say go with 5th or 6th-7th gen if you can get the ram.


    I'm thinking to go with the 5th gen and buy 1 more ram stick 8gb ddr3 to make it 16 but still what motherboard would i need to get?


    I'm sorry I meant 4th gen. 5th gen broadwell was skipped for desktop. Totally forgot about that. I'd recommend the 4690k if you want to overclock (which you should) or 4690 if you don't want to overclock. Prices should be close to skylake (6th gen) or maybe skylake could even be cheaper so I'd look into that as well and check ram prices. ddr4 might actually be cheaper.
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  21. Tensai30 said:
    neversurrender13 said:
    Tensai30 said:
    You typically see (more in the past before amd ryzen) a lot of people pairing Nvidia with Intel because those are the top performers. However your video card is relatively low end so it's going to be very hard to bottleneck it with any modern cpu.


    Tensai30 said:
    Well an i5 would assure you 60fps on every title as long as your settings are low enough (because of your gpu). You could upgrade the cpu now and have smooth fps and upgrade your gpu later when you have the money to get a better experience/higher settings. As far as which I5, like I said before I'm not sure what prices are like there (I live in Taiwan) but I would generally recommend 6th gen-8th gen if you can so you don't have to upgrade your cpu any time soon. But be warned that anything past 6th gen would require dd4 memory. So if that's too much, maybe 5th gen. I'm currently using a 6600k myself and performance has been rock solid. I've had this cpu through 3 gpu upgrades (970-1070-1080ti) and still don't feel the need to replace it. The choice is really yours but ultimately 8th gen would be the most future proof with more cores. If 8th gen is out of your reach I'd say go with 5th or 6th-7th gen if you can get the ram.


    I'm thinking to go with the 5th gen and buy 1 more ram stick 8gb ddr3 to make it 16 but still what motherboard would i need to get?


    I'm sorry I meant 4th gen. 5th gen broadwell was skipped for desktop. Totally forgot about that. I'd recommend the 4690k if you want to overclock (which you should) or 4690 if you don't want to overclock.


    I also looked on a fx 8320 maybe it would work good with the gpu and its cheaper
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  22. Tensai30 said:
    You typically see (more

    Tensai30 said:
    Well an i5 would assure you 60fps on every title

    I'm thinking to go with the 5th gen and buy 1 more ram stick 8gb ddr3 to make it 16 but still what motherboard would i need to get?


    I'm sorry I meant 4th gen. 5th gen broadwell was skipped for desktop. Totally forgot about that. I'd recommend the 4690k if you want to overclock (which you should) or 4690 if you don't want to overclock. Prices should be close to skylake (6th gen) or maybe skylake could even be cheaper so I'd look into that as well and check ram prices. ddr4 might actually be cheaper.


    I see people saying g4400 and i3 6100 is good and quite cheap im not rich to pay £200 for cpu and somewhat for mb and ram
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  23. An i3 will still give you fps drops especially on games like gta. Really need an i5 for a stable framerate. If you go with the i3, it's not going to be a big improvement over what you are already using. I'd keep shopping around or save more.
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  24. Let's put it this way, any i5 since 2ND Gen would be a big improvement over your cpu. If you got a 2500k and overclocked it, you'd have pretty stable fps. I'd go for the best deal you can find on the most current generation (no less than 2nd Gen) possible on your budget but stay away from i3.
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  25. Tensai30 said:
    An i3 will still give you fps drops especially on games like gta. Really need an i5 for a stable framerate. If you go with the i3, it's not going to be a big improvement over what you are already using. I'd keep shopping around or save more.


    Ill go with the i5 2500kbut u know to what mb to pair it with?
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  26. I can't personally recommend any motherboards because I never owned a 2500k but if I had one, I would probably go with something like the Asus P8Z68-V PRO. Mainly because I've always had good experiences with Asus motherboards and it seems good for overclocking. You're going to want a solid motherboard to overclock and I would strongly recommend overclocking this cpu to keep up with today's games. The 2500k is still a good cpu even today thanks to the lack of competition from AMD all these years(although things are changing with ryzen and intel 8th gen). However, most of the people still pulling 60fps with this cpu are overclocking to at least the 4.5ghz range. I believe they still included stock coolers with the 2nd gen but you would need a aftermarket cooler to overclock. Never overclock with a stock cooler; it would damage your cpu. A few recommendations for cheap aftermarket coolers would be the cooler master hyper 212 or the msi core frozr l. Depending on your budget and how things are priced where you are, I would go with the core frozr l if you can. I upgraded to that from my hyper 212 and I shed a good 13c off of my cpus max temperature. Otherwise get the hyper 212 it's still a solid cooler and very cheap.
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  27. Any luck finding a board?
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  28. Tensai30 said:
    Any luck finding a board?


    Not really those are expensive and would have to save ages for them
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  29. Sorry to hear that. Not much more I can suggest though. Unfortunately PC gaming is one of the more expensive platforms. Especially when playing AAA titles at 60fps. There always is console gaming as an alternative I guess. You could take the suggestion from the other user about the ram which would give you a small (most likely more small than it's worth) performance boost but wouldn't give you what you are shooting for. Wish I could give you a better suggestion but you're essentially taking a computer which is more suited for office work and trying to play the latest games at 60fps which is kind of unrealistic. Ultimately almost your whole entire system would need to be upgraded for a decent experience. Best of luck.
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  30. forgot to mention the i3 8100. Performance is close to 6th gen i5s.
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