Sudden low performance

it's been around 1 or 2 weeks by now, i suddenly started having low performance in games, Rainbow six siege is the best example, i used to play around 130+ FPS, but suddenly i went to 45-60 FPS, forcing me to play windowed to be able to play; reinstalling geforce experience and the driver improved the performance, R6 was running 80 FPS but not stable, I tried setting to prefer max performance, didn't work too, reducing graphics didn't help too; I believe it's the graphics card because i noticed the GPU is being a lot less used on fullscreen, the temps seem to be normal.

my setup:
windows 10 pro
cpu: i7 6700k
gpu: ASUS GTX 1080 ti
Motherboard: ASUS Z170-A
the setup is pretty new, got it this year

i tried:
reinstalling geforce experience and the driver
setting power management to max performance
reducing graphics quality in the games

thanks
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  1. Did you fully uninstall the display drivers using DDU? So not you can use this link: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html for downloading a tool to uninstall your display drivers. Go ahead and download your drivers from NVIDEA MANUALLY and run the tool in SAFE mode windows. If you don't know how to run windows in safe mode you can go ahead and follow this article: https://www.howtogeek.com/107511/how-to-boot-into-safe-mode-on-windows-8-the-easy-way/
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  2. i'm not sure if it will make a difference, but i will try it anyway, another thing, I turned on my computer, around an hour later I launched GTA, it was 45 FPS inside the hangar(where I spawn), I restarted the PC and launched GTA again, now 130+ FPS. Does this mean anything?

    now I see GPU temp reaches 83º C is it high?
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  3. Nuclearius said:
    i'm not sure if it will make a difference, but i will try it anyway, another thing, I turned on my computer, around an hour later I launched GTA, it was 45 FPS inside the hangar(where I spawn), I restarted the PC and launched GTA again, now 130+ FPS. Does this mean anything?

    now I see GPU temp reaches 83º C is it high?


    First of all 83C seems on the higher side, but this shouldn't be a problem for your gpu at all. A software should be delivered with the product, If you can't find it, you can just download MSI afterburner and put up the fan speed. Also you should go ahead and launch a game while msi afterburner is opened in the background, after playinjg for a little while open msi afterburner and check the monitor tab. You should make some screenshots and send them. Do this for the moment you launch the game after like an hour and after the moment you restarted the pc. It might have something to do with pagefile, so go ahead and check if your ram is sufficient. here is a link to msi afterburner:
    https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner (download section)
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  4. are you sure no other processes are running that are consuming GPU resources? I recently did some troubleshooting with something similar where the guy was trying to game while a stealth miner was running on his GPU.

    Without the game running look in GPU Z and see if the card is running at normal 2D idle speeds. If it's not idling then something is running.

    Fire up the game without the browser running and make sure the discord screen is minimized to the hidden icon area and see if that makes a difference as well.
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  5. i will try all of it, i will send the results after the weekend
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  6. ok i restarted the PC and opened the afterburner



    this temp looks high

    and it reaches 61 after some minutes
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  7. Why is the card under full load there? the temps not high at that load.
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  8. Mark RM said:
    Why is the card under full load there? the temps not high at that load.


    I really don't know, could this be the problem?
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  9. Something is running on your graphics card and forcing it into 3D mode before you even launch your game if I understand what's happening here. So if your game is in contention with with some other application for your video card, of course it's going to be slow.

    Install and run the free version of Malware bytes, check for Malware. Also, CLOSE all unnecessary applications one at a time while looking at that MSI screen until the GPU drops into 2D idle mode so you can see if it's one of your apps. I've seen this happen with Discord chats, facebook and a few other things even glitchy versions of custom mouse software.
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  10. Mark RM said:
    Something is running on your graphics card and forcing it into 3D mode before you even launch your game if I understand what's happening here. So if your game is in contention with with some other application for your video card, of course it's going to be slow.

    Install and run the free version of Malware bytes, check for Malware. Also, CLOSE all unnecessary applications one at a time while looking at that MSI screen until the GPU drops into 2D idle mode so you can see if it's one of your apps. I've seen this happen with Discord chats, facebook and a few other things even glitchy versions of custom mouse software.



    how do i know it went to 2D idle? and can you send me a link to Malware bytes? thanks
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  11. https://www.malwarebytes.com/

    It'll drop the frequency down to 240 Mhz or so....

    How many monitors do you have? and what are they?
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  12. Mark RM said:
    https://www.malwarebytes.com/

    It'll drop the frequency down to 240 Mhz or so....

    How many monitors do you have? and what are they?


    I closed basically anything I found open and it didn't drop, I have one monitor, 1920x1080 60hz
    planning to buy a 144hz
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  13. scanned with malware bytes and found no threats
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  14. results of malware scan?
    Did you run DDU and totally reinstall the drivers?
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  15. a new driver is available, should i download it?
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  16. Nuclearius said:
    a new driver is available, should i download it?


    Download the new driver manually and save it.

    Uninstall the old driver with DDU http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

    when the computer restarts install the new Gforce driver
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  17. Mark RM said:
    Nuclearius said:
    a new driver is available, should i download it?


    Download the new driver manually and save it.

    Uninstall the old driver with DDU http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

    when the computer restarts install the new Gforce driver



    manually you mean not using geforce experience?
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  18. I mean double click on the downloaded executable file and install from scratch after totally removing all nvidia software using DDU.
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  19. here we go, fully uninstalled the driver and manually installed the new one



    is it good?
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  20. gonna test in game now
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  21. perfect so far
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  22. ok I played battlefront 2 and Fortnite most of the day, i forgot to take screenshots of the afterburner, but when I went for GTA V, it went back to low FPS, I can't say if it started of Fortnite because it is not a hard game to run and it changed a lot since i played, but still this is how afterburner was looking:


    restarted the PC and it came back to normal FPS and i haven't seem must difference in the afterburner
    here is a screenshot some minutes in game


    I have no idea of what to do with this information
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  23. Those screenshots are normal in game.

    When you say it slowed down in GTA V do you know by how much? any kind of stats?
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  24. just FPS drop, can't say exactly how much, is it normal to have higher FPS after restarting the PC?
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  25. Nuclearius said:
    just FPS drop, can't say exactly how much, is it normal to have higher FPS after restarting the PC?


    It can be if the system is thermally throttling.
    This leads us to the next issue, what are the temps of the CPU while you are gaming?
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  26. Mark RM said:
    Nuclearius said:
    just FPS drop, can't say exactly how much, is it normal to have higher FPS after restarting the PC?


    It can be if the system is thermally throttling.
    This leads us to the next issue, what are the temps of the CPU while you are gaming?


    i will check it with open hardware monitor
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  27. well got some screeshots of right after restarting:


    and a while after restarting


    i noticed the temps were going up an down right after restarting and then went low after a while
    gonna see gaming now
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  28. Those temps so far seem reasonable actually, I don't think it's throttling right now, gaming or higher stress may change that. A cheap easy way to test it to remove the side panel from your rig and get it some more cool air and view the result change.
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  29. I didn't have any FPS problems yet, I really can't say when it starts
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  30. do you think i should change the settings with the CPU fan so it gets 100% before reaching 70C or even let it 100% all the time for some days to see how it goes?
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  31. battlefront 2 may be heating up it a lot
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  32. 70 isn't really an issue actually. Your complaint about the 1080 Ti dropping performance in BF6 isn't uncommon though, a few people seem to have gone through this when I read the steam forums.
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  33. Mark RM said:
    70 isn't really an issue actually. Your complaint about the 1080 Ti dropping performance in BF6 isn't uncommon though, a few people seem to have gone through this when I read the steam forums.

    BF6? Do you mean R6 or BF2? Probably R6 since you mentioned steam
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  34. Sorry I mean RB6 Siege
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  35. Mark RM said:
    Sorry I mean RB6 Siege


    If it was only in R6 we could say the game is the problem
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  36. i'm feeling the FPS starts high and then starts to drop slowly while i'm playing
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  37. yeah, spent the whole day playing GTA V and noticed the FPS slowly drops, i was over 100 when started and by the end of the day i was around 45-60
    and now i played some BF2 and went for GTA V and the fps went down too

    it's like the computer gets slowly tired and bf2 pushes it too far
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  38. but today... i played a lot of bf2 and my fps started to go really bad, went to GTA and fps is fine.... i don't get it
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  39. I really can't find a pattern in this, is there anything I could test?
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  40. I literally have no idea what is going on here. Everything should be good. I really don't know what else to possibly look at.
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  41. Mark RM said:
    I literally have no idea what is going on here. Everything should be good. I really don't know what else to possibly look at.


    I will try to monitor my CPU during a whole day of GTA V and try to take screenshots
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  42. it is normal to the whole CPU go 100% during a loading screen?
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  43. Nuclearius said:
    it is normal to the whole CPU go 100% during a loading screen?


    It's possible, because during the loading screen it's setting up the game map etc as it distracts you with the presentation on screen.
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  44. is it normal to the CPU always stay like this?
    in game or idle
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  45. If you have the power options on the system set to high performance , then yes, the CPU won't downclock, but that doesn't mean all the cores are fully utilized, that's a separate section of the HWmon screen.
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  46. Mark RM said:
    If you have the power options on the system set to high performance , then yes, the CPU won't downclock, but that doesn't mean all the cores are fully utilized, that's a separate section of the HWmon screen.

    Damn I just can't find what is lowering the performance
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  47. is everything normal?
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  48. i feel it is getting worse and worse everyday
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  49. your CPU's are half loaded there, what's running?
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