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Upgrade from I7 3770. Pls suggest the cheapest solution!

Hi guys,

i have a i7 3770 from 2012. My motherboard is starting to give me some problems (the first ram slot won't accept any ram, it got broken someway). I was thinking about upgrading my system, using the 16 gb ddr3 ram I have, buying a new motherboard, graphic card (gtx 1070 or 1080 if i find an offer for xmas), and i'm thinking about a new cpu. The problem is, I will already spend a lot on the graphic card, so I want a cpu to go along with a strong graphic card without spending too much.

Any suggestions? thank you guys
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  1. Well, if you want to keep your DDR3 that will limit you to the i7-4790 or i7-4790k only with a H97/Z97 motherboard. So you would be going up a single generation (+ a refresh).

    Though if you are willing to get DDR4, then you can go all the way to the i5-8600k or i7-8700k with Z370 motherboards.

    Also consider the GTX1070Ti, almost as fast as a GTX1080 and not much more than a GTX1070.
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  2. Eximo said:
    Well, if you want to keep your DDR3 that will limit you to the i7-4790 or i7-4790k only with a H97/Z97 motherboard. So you would be going up a single generation (+ a refresh).

    Though if you are willing to get DDR4, then you can go all the way to the i5-8600k or i7-8700k with Z370 motherboards.

    Also consider the GTX1070Ti, almost as fast as a GTX1080 and not much more than a GTX1070.


    Thank you! the problem is the damn money. an i5-8600 would cost me around 350 $. I have to find the best possible, cheapest solution.
    If i go with a i5-8600 it would be 350 + around 80-90 for at least 8gb ddr4 ram, 100$ motherboard = almost 600 dollars...
    without the graphic card...
    it's basically a 1000 dollar pc ... a litte too much for un upgrade
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  3. If you want to replace an i7 with another i7 that is basically the cost. Usually $330 CPU, $100 motherboard (minimum for a decent one), and then memory. So if your only potential savings is the memory, you are saving about $150.

    Well, Z97 motherboards are getting harder to get so you have to pay a little premium to get new ones:
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mTvvbj

    Z270 is still a decent option, but still about the same cost.
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VNtXjc

    i5-8400 is cheaper at $200, only 6 cores, no hyperthreading and no overclocking, but still a good choice. But you still end up in the same rough price range: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RvXXjc

    If you make the switch to AMD you still need DDR4, but the motherboards are cheaper:
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NTQjwV

    Only savings in your situation might be to try and pick up a used i7-4790k and board.
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  4. Eximo said:
    If you want to replace an i7 with another i7 that is basically the cost. Usually $330 CPU, $100 motherboard (minimum for a decent one), and then memory. So if your only potential savings is the memory, you are saving about $150.

    Well, Z97 motherboards are getting harder to get so you have to pay a little premium to get new ones:
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mTvvbj

    Z270 is still a decent option, but still about the same cost.
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VNtXjc

    i5-8400 is cheaper at $200, only 6 cores, no hyperthreading and no overclocking, but still a good choice. But you still end up in the same rough price range: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RvXXjc

    If you make the switch to AMD you still need DDR4, but the motherboards are cheaper:
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NTQjwV

    Only savings in your situation might be to try and pick up a used i7-4790k and board.


    I understand your point.

    Do I save some real money switching from an I7 to an AMD? which AMD processor could be compared to a i7 8700 or i5 8600?
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  5. The savings are minimal really, since the new AMD chips use DDR4 as well. And they are very sensitive to memory speeds, so you'll want a decent memory kit. 2666 is okay, 2933 better, 3200 about as high as AMD chips will go (It more or less also sets the speed the CPU cores communicate to each other at, so is rather important)

    R5-1600 has 6 cores and 12 threads and is the same price as Intel's mid-range i5. However the maximum clock speeds and IPC is quite a bit lower then Intel, even after overclocking. The positives are overclocking on all but the A series boards, and cheaper motherboards. (Only Z370 has been released for 8th gen CPUs so far)

    Price-wise there is the 8-core 16 thread R7-1700 and up. Basically more cores, so productivity tasks are improved.

    You can also drop down to lesser R5 CPUs and they still have 4-cores and 8 threads. They are comparable to something like an i7-4770.

    The savings is minor, you are looking at between $800 and $1000 to get everything you want regardless of the platform you pick.

    This is what happens when you have a high end system, all your upgrades become expensive.

    If you trust your CPU, you could always try and get another H77 or Z77 motherboard and pick up that GTX1070.
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  6. Eximo said:
    The savings are minimal really, since the new AMD chips use DDR4 as well. And they are very sensitive to memory speeds, so you'll want a decent memory kit. 2666 is okay, 2933 better, 3200 about as high as AMD chips will go (It more or less also sets the speed the CPU cores communicate to each other at, so is rather important)

    R5-1600 has 6 cores and 12 threads and is the same price as Intel's mid-range i5. However the maximum clock speeds and IPC is quite a bit lower then Intel, even after overclocking. The positives are overclocking on all but the A series boards, and cheaper motherboards. (Only Z370 has been released for 8th gen CPUs so far)

    Price-wise there is the 8-core 16 thread R7-1700 and up. Basically more cores, so productivity tasks are improved.

    You can also drop down to lesser R5 CPUs and they still have 4-cores and 8 threads. They are comparable to something like an i7-4770.

    The savings is minor, you are looking at between $800 and $1000 to get everything you want regardless of the platform you pick.

    This is what happens when you have a high end system, all your upgrades become expensive.

    If you trust your CPU, you could always try and get another H77 or Z77 motherboard and pick up that GTX1070.


    Sorry if i insist, you've been very kind.

    So, if i understand right, the real saving would be in the graphic card too.
    I see so many tests online...really the gtx 1080 8gb is slightly better than the 1070 in terms of fps ... I mean, MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8 GB is 100 $ less than the cheapest gtx 1080.

    What do you think about saving money on the graphic card?
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  7. No problem at all. 99.9% percent volunteers here.

    Savings is a relative term. There is spending less when it comes to GPUs.

    The 1070Ti makes a convincing argument over the 1080 in terms of price/performance But the lower down you go the better that ratio gets. If you are using a 1080p 60hz screen than the 1060 6GB is a good choice. You could also argue for a GTX1070 here for high frame rate gaming. 2560x1440 and up and you pretty much need a 1070 or higher. And the 1070Ti should last longer in that regard.

    A sense of performance scale.

    GTX1060 3GB 9/10 SM units (8000Mhz)
    GTX1060 6GB 10/10 SM units (8000/9000Mhz)
    GTX1070 8GB 15/20 SM units (8000Mhz)
    GTX1070Ti 8GB 19/20 SM units (8000Mhz)
    GTX1080 8GB 20/20 SM units (10,000Mhz/11,000Mhz)
    GTX1080Ti 11GB 28/32 SM units (11,000Mhz)
    GTX Titan X 12GB 28/32 SM units (10,000Mhz)
    GTX Titan Xp 12GB 32/32 SM units (11,410Mhz)
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  8. Eximo said:
    No problem at all. 99.9% percent volunteers here.

    Savings is a relative term. There is spending less when it comes to GPUs.

    The 1070Ti makes a convincing argument over the 1080 in terms of price/performance But the lower down you go the better that ratio gets. If you are using a 1080p 60hz screen than the 1060 6GB is a good choice. You could also argue for a GTX1070 here for high frame rate gaming. 2560x1440 and up and you pretty much need a 1070 or higher. And the 1070Ti should last longer in that regard.

    A sense of performance scale.

    GTX1060 3GB 9/10 SM units (8000Mhz)
    GTX1060 6GB 10/10 SM units (8000/9000Mhz)
    GTX1070 8GB 15/20 SM units (8000Mhz)
    GTX1070Ti 8GB 19/20 SM units (8000Mhz)
    GTX1080 8GB 20/20 SM units (10,000Mhz/11,000Mhz)
    GTX1080Ti 11GB 28/32 SM units (11,000Mhz)
    GTX Titan X 12GB 28/32 SM units (10,000Mhz)
    GTX Titan Xp 12GB 32/32 SM units (11,410Mhz)



    thank you again.

    It may sound contradictory but my point is :

    if i upgrade my pc, then i try to go with the best i can, so one of the set ups you suggested me ( Amd ryzen 5 1600 or intel i5 at least and a 1070 ti or 1080), because even if i'm using a 60 hz monitor there is a chance i will buy a new monitor next year.

    If i decide only to change my motherboard, then i will buy a 1060 6gb whose price will drop a little bit i hope, and keep this cpu until i decide to buy a totally new system-

    that's my dilemma now, i must decide before xmas. I am in south america for work and i will go back to my motherland (italy) in december for holidays, then back to south america in january.

    ONe last thing : i was trying to build a system with the links you gave me and tried to fit everything in a RIOTORO CR1080 case, that will be a lot easier to travel with...

    do you know about that case? could you suggest me the smallest possible case so i could travel with my pc without problems?

    Thank you so much again. ,, really !
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  9. I wasn't familiar, but it looks like a decent case. However, it is still a mid-tower, so it will be quite larger then a potential mini-ITX system. (Though finding an old LGA1155 mini-ITX board is going to be a challenge)

    For cost savings I would say a new motherboard and a GTX1060 would be good. If the goal is portability, they now make laptops with full spec GTX 1060 6GB in them. You'll spend more like $1000 US but gain that feature and a whole system. You could then part out the older system and make some of it back.

    As for a build in that case:

    w/ i7-3770 (I added a fully modular power supply, something you would want in a case like that)

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    Motherboard: Biostar - TZ77B ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: RIOTORO - CR1080 ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.85 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $497.82
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-11 18:42 EST-0500

    Mini-ITX (surprisingly a relatively cheap board available):

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($300.00 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: Intel - DH77DF Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($150.00 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: RIOTORO - CR280 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($45.23 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $804.21
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-11 18:45 EST-0500

    Or all out:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
    Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($133.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($134.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: RIOTORO - CR280 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($45.23 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $823.08
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-11 18:47 EST-0500
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  10. Eximo said:
    I wasn't familiar, but it looks like a decent case. However, it is still a mid-tower, so it will be quite larger then a potential mini-ITX system. (Though finding an old LGA1155 mini-ITX board is going to be a challenge)

    For cost savings I would say a new motherboard and a GTX1060 would be good. If the goal is portability, they now make laptops with full spec GTX 1060 6GB in them. You'll spend more like $1000 US but gain that feature and a whole system. You could then part out the older system and make some of it back.

    As for a build in that case:

    w/ i7-3770 (I added a fully modular power supply, something you would want in a case like that)

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    Motherboard: Biostar - TZ77B ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: RIOTORO - CR1080 ATX Mid Tower Case ($78.85 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $497.82
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-11 18:42 EST-0500

    Mini-ITX (surprisingly a relatively cheap board available):

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($300.00 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: Intel - DH77DF Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($150.00 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: RIOTORO - CR280 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($45.23 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $804.21
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-11 18:45 EST-0500

    Or all out:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.89 @ B&H)
    Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($133.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($134.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB AMP! Edition Video Card ($259.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: RIOTORO - CR280 Mini ITX Desktop Case ($45.23 @ Newegg Marketplace)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Total: $823.08
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-11-11 18:47 EST-0500


    I love all the solutions !! thank you for the Riotoro cr 280 solution and the fully modular psu advice (didn't think about it)

    I was trying to build some similar build with the AMD RYZEN 5 1600 ( i can find it at 200 $) and Biostar B350GTN (95 $) motherboard. I got 2 main problems :

    1- I discovered that the Riotoro cases are really difficult to find in italy (there are just 5 cr 1080 on amazon.it ), the CR 280 is not available so i have to find a mini case with the same "easy to travel with" dimension (CoolerMaster Elite 110 ??)

    2- I can't understand which cpu cooler would fit in, i was thinking about the
    Cooler Master MasterLiquid Lite 120 but it says it may not fit.
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  11. For any of the CPUs listed here the stock cooler should suffice. Though each case will have restrictions on maximum CPU cooler height. Low profile coolers from Noctua or Phanteks could be used.

    Plenty of small form factor cases out there. All of these should be available in Italy:

    Antec IKS600
    Thermaltake Core V1
    Cooler Master Elite 120
    Bitfenix Colossus Mini
    Zalman M1 (I rather like the looks of it)
    Fractal Design Node 304

    And if you change out the GPU for one of the Mini length cards, many dozens more.
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  12. Eximo said:
    For any of the CPUs listed here the stock cooler should suffice. Though each case will have restrictions on maximum CPU cooler height. Low profile coolers from Noctua or Phanteks could be used.

    Plenty of small form factor cases out there. All of these should be available in Italy:

    Antec IKS600
    Thermaltake Core V1
    Cooler Master Elite 120
    Bitfenix Colossus Mini
    Zalman M1 (I rather like the looks of it)
    Fractal Design Node 304

    And if you change out the GPU for one of the Mini length cards, many dozens more.



    Well, i think i stressed you enough ! LOL

    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LqNN3F

    Tell me what you think about it. I choosed the mini gtx 1080 only to check that a mini 1080 exists, but like i told you i'd go with a 1060 or 1070 at max.
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  13. Best answer
    I would not waste money on that CPU cooler. Just stick with the AMD stock one, it is quite good. You need to spend about three times that to do better. There is also something to be said for dual channel memory, but if you are just leaving yourself the room to add more later, that is probably okay.
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  14. Eximo said:
    I would not waste money on that CPU cooler. Just stick with the AMD stock one, it is quite good. You need to spend about three times that to do better. There is also something to be said for dual channel memory, but if you are just leaving yourself the room to add more later, that is probably okay.


    thank you!
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