figuring out nas

so i'm trying to build a nas i have a 4670k from another failed build, i've seen some posts on here saying all they use for there nas is a combo cpu/mobo or evan interated with 4 or 8gb of ram, so i'm wondering if it would be better to underclock the 4670k to 2 cores and get a mini itx or save some money and get a intergrated cpu. this is just going to be used as a file server just stoaring some important files and backups...i would be suing unraid for this with some nice and expensive (lol) 7200rpm 80gb drives..
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  1. computerwiz1101 said:
    s so i'm wondering if it would be better to underclock the 4670k to 2 cores and get a mini itx


    Not sure why these are linked together as choices.

    computerwiz1101 said:
    this is just going to be used as a file server just stoaring some important files and backups...i would be suing unraid for this with some nice and expensive (lol) 7200rpm 80gb drives..


    Don't put important data on a system that you don't really understand, on old drives, where's the back up of this data going to be? (raid isn't a backup)
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  2. "80gb drives" ?
    Why would you do this?

    Those are at least a decade old.
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  3. 13thmonkey said:
    computerwiz1101 said:
    s so i'm wondering if it would be better to underclock the 4670k to 2 cores and get a mini itx


    Not sure why these are linked together as choices.

    computerwiz1101 said:
    this is just going to be used as a file server just stoaring some important files and backups...i would be suing unraid for this with some nice and expensive (lol) 7200rpm 80gb drives..


    Don't put important data on a system that you don't really understand, on old drives, where's the back up of this data going to be? (raid isn't a backup)


    i put the cpu because thats what i was planning on using no need to run all 4 cores if not needed, wasent sure if i would get less stability with less cores since that's not how it was shipped..and i understand it just fine, the reason i'm using these old drives is because i just need them to last until i can put the more expensive red drives from WD..and the backup is gonna be system backups and a few misc files..i'm only going to do this once..
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  4. USAFRet said:
    "80gb drives" ?
    Why would you do this?

    Those are at least a decade old.


    just a small solution until i get the red drives,
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  5. Run everything at stock. My question is where is the important data going to be backup to, what if one of those ancient drives dies, what then? how do you recover?
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  6. 13thmonkey said:
    Run everything at stock. My question is where is the important data going to be backup to, what if one of those ancient drives dies, what then? how do you recover?


    well it'as only backups and a copy of a daily outdated excel file. nothing is going to there that can't be replaced quite easily plus they only gotta last till next paycheck, i'm just puting the backups on there incase somthing does amazingly happan in the next 20 somthing days..it's more a proof of concept and whatnot, nothing really pratical lol
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    just stoaring some important files and backups


    so important or not important ?

    Playing with the 80GB drives, and expecting to lose that data, until you get new drives is fine, but expect the data will be lost.
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  8. 13thmonkey said:
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    just stoaring some important files and backups


    so important or not important ?

    Playing with the 80GB drives, and expecting to lose that data, until you get new drives is fine, but expect the data will be lost.


    well there important but there not the orginals and end all to be all..does that make sense? also if i do lose a drive it will give me exp for replacing a drive and rebuilding the array, plus there's this plugin in unraid that will check or preclear a drive and tell you if it's a good drive or not..the bathtub graph for drives is used here..look it up it's hard to explain
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    well there important but there not the orginals and end all to be all..does that make sense? also if i do lose a drive it will give me exp for replacing a drive and rebuilding the array, plus there's this plugin in unraid that will check or preclear a drive and tell you if it's a good drive or not..the bathtub graph for drives is used here..look it up it's hard to explain


    What RAID level are you considering?

    RAID 1 - mirrored. 4 x 80GB drives in RAID 1 = 80GB actual space. Pretty tiny.

    RAID 0 - striped. 4 x 80GB drives in RAID 0 = 320GB actual space. But there is no "rebuilding" after a fail. All data is lost.
    The only 'recovery' is to grab the data from the daily backup you make before the drive fail.

    There are various other configs, but those are the basics.
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  10. USAFRet said:
    computerwiz1101 said:


    well there important but there not the orginals and end all to be all..does that make sense? also if i do lose a drive it will give me exp for replacing a drive and rebuilding the array, plus there's this plugin in unraid that will check or preclear a drive and tell you if it's a good drive or not..the bathtub graph for drives is used here..look it up it's hard to explain


    What RAID level are you considering?

    RAID 1 - mirrored. 4 x 80GB drives in RAID 1 = 80GB actual space. Pretty tiny.

    RAID 0 - striped. 4 x 80GB drives in RAID 0 = 320GB actual space. But there is no "rebuilding" after a fail. All data is lost.
    The only 'recovery' is to grab the data from the daily backup you make before the drive fail.

    There are various other configs, but those are the basics.


    i dont need raid i need them stored on diffrent drives i dont wnna put all my eggs in one basket lol
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  11. USAFRet said:
    computerwiz1101 said:


    well there important but there not the orginals and end all to be all..does that make sense? also if i do lose a drive it will give me exp for replacing a drive and rebuilding the array, plus there's this plugin in unraid that will check or preclear a drive and tell you if it's a good drive or not..the bathtub graph for drives is used here..look it up it's hard to explain


    What RAID level are you considering?

    RAID 1 - mirrored. 4 x 80GB drives in RAID 1 = 80GB actual space. Pretty tiny.

    RAID 0 - striped. 4 x 80GB drives in RAID 0 = 320GB actual space. But there is no "rebuilding" after a fail. All data is lost.
    The only 'recovery' is to grab the data from the daily backup you make before the drive fail.

    There are various other configs, but those are the basics.


    i dont need raid i need them stored on diffrent drives i dont wnna put all my eggs in one basket lol
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  12. computerwiz1101 said:


    i dont need raid i need them stored on diffrent drives i dont wnna put all my eggs in one basket lol


    So then the word "array" is null and void.
    Just individual drives. Right?
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