I need a new CPU & Motherboard - best match recommendation please.

Specs.

Intel core i7-4770k 3.5ghz. oc, to 3.9ghz. i want a newer i7.. recommendation aswell as mobo.
TridentX G.skill 16GB 1333mhz XMP profile 1. DDR3 dual 2x8gb.
Maximus vi hero "LGA1150"
corsair H100 cooler.
Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060 6GB brand new
Windows 10 pro.
PSU Corsair TX850M 850W
SSD samsung 840 EVO 250GB C: drive.
SSD Crucial TX300 275GB brand new - Only for battlefield 1 & 4.
2x HDD 1000gb & 600gb for anything i save. pictures,movies and other stuff
samsung SA950 120hz. 1920x1080 27"
and of course 300/300mbit hyperspeed internet

i want a new motherboard that will match perfect with my components.
and also a new CPU.
im thinking : INTEL CORE I7 4790K 4.00GHZ (4. GEN)
Or Intel Core i7-4790K Devils Canyon CPU - 4 GHz - Intel LGA1150
Or if anyone here tells me i can get better cpu for cheaper money ill go for that..
i need the best match for all components. cpu,mobo,gpu. and other components in my rig

is it here im gonna switch CPU and MOBO from LGA1150 to LGA1151
or will my other components not be compatible, like Ram and cooler. and Psu or?
i have alittle hard time finding 1150 mobo's today.
mostly sold in my country Denmark is 1151 in stores and online.

Primary use is only Gaming.
and alittle email and surf internet..
mostly ill play Battlefield 1 / 4

reason for new gear..
i dont feel im fast anough ingame.
i think it might be the CPU that slows me down
my gear is atleast 5 years old i guess.
and i want to have 100% fast reaction when im playing.
it feels like my skills being slowed down by bad pc performance.
or maybe old / bad setup.

i hope to get some help in here.
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  1. If Intel, coffee lake I7-8700K is the only choice worth getting now :)
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  2. vapour said:
    If Intel, coffee lake I7-8700K is the only choice worth getting now :)


    it wont fit LGA1150

    can i change motherboard and CPU to LGA1151 and still keep other components i have?
    as i see (googled) then LGA 1151 is running DDR4 ram
    i have DDR3 ram. so i would need to change them aswell
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  3. ca.iversen said:
    vapour said:
    If Intel, coffee lake I7-8700K is the only choice worth getting now :)


    it wont fit LGA1150

    can i change motherboard and CPU to LGA1151 and still keep other components i have?


    Coffee lake only uses ddr4, other components are totally fine :)
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  4. vapour said:
    ca.iversen said:
    vapour said:
    If Intel, coffee lake I7-8700K is the only choice worth getting now :)


    it wont fit LGA1150

    can i change motherboard and CPU to LGA1151 and still keep other components i have?


    Coffee lake only uses ddr4, other components are totally fine :)



    So you say i can change from lga1150 to lga1151. and change ram and get I7-8700K
    what motherboard do you recommend . not most expensive. but not crap.. only for max gaming performance
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  5. ca.iversen said:
    vapour said:
    ca.iversen said:
    vapour said:
    If Intel, coffee lake I7-8700K is the only choice worth getting now :)


    it wont fit LGA1150

    can i change motherboard and CPU to LGA1151 and still keep other components i have?


    Coffee lake only uses ddr4, other components are totally fine :)



    So you say i can change from lga1150 to lga1151. and change ram and get I7-8700K
    what motherboard do you recommend . not most expensive. but not crap.. only for max gaming performance


    For cheap MB supporting coffee lake, you will need to wait until next year. Right now only Z370 is available :)
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  6. For cheap MB supporting coffee lake, you will need to wait until next year. Right now only Z370 is available :)


    what about this one ?
    is it pro or shi*

    https://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/MSI-Z370-GAMING-PLUS-Bundkort-Intel-Z370-Intel-LGA1151-socket-DDR4-RAM-ATX-/2621247
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  7. and what about cheaper and still much better than my old i7-4770k
    ? any recommendation :)

    I7-8700K is alittle expensive for me. if will run up to be alot expensive for me with mobo and cpu together, and then ram after :)
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  8. I7-7700k or I7-6700k will be best upgrades other than coffee lake
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  9. many many thanks for your help :)
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  10. There's not much difference gaming with a 4770k and a 4790k, they are both Haswell cpus, the 4970k is just tweaked.
    As is, the 4770k is only @15-20% less powerful than the i7-7700k, most of which is seen at the very top end of fps, the minimum frames are very close. It's not the cpu that's slowing anything down.
    What I'd look into is your mobo drivers, Win10CE has been creating issues with older versions of mobo drivers, especially Lan and audio, which have the side affect of killing fps.

    Honestly, at this particular point in time, it's not really worth the big expense to upgrade from a 4770k to a 7700k or the premium prices of the new CoffeeLake 8700k. Your gpu just isn't powerful enough and isn't under high enough demands from a 144Hz monitor to really make a dent.

    I'm still running a 3770k @4.6GHz and none of my games can take it over 55% usage at any detail setting or mod count.
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  11. Karadjgne said:
    There's not much difference gaming with a 4770k and a 4790k, they are both Haswell cpus, the 4970k is just tweaked.
    As is, the 4770k is only @15-20% less powerful than the i7-7700k, most of which is seen at the very top end of fps, the minimum frames are very close. It's not the cpu that's slowing anything down.
    What I'd look into is your mobo drivers, Win10CE has been creating issues with older versions of mobo drivers, especially Lan and audio, which have the side affect of killing fps.

    Honestly, at this particular point in time, it's not really worth the big expense to upgrade from a 4770k to a 7700k or the premium prices of the new CoffeeLake 8700k. Your gpu just isn't powerful enough and isn't under high enough demands from a 144Hz monitor to really make a dent.

    I'm still running a 3770k @4.6GHz and none of my games can take it over 55% usage at any detail setting or mod count.



    thanks so much for your answer..
    are you the man for diagnose my computer. maybe diagnose what my problem is or can be ?
    im not that much good at computers. so i need someone to help me find the problem.
    maybe make my pc as i want it to be and also make it as it should be.
    i just discovered that my corsair H100 cooler isnt for lga1150 but its on my lga1150 cpu anyways. and has been on for some years now.
    not that i think that is the main problem. but i just saw now that its for lga1151. i dont think its a BIG problem there.

    if you want i would be so happy if you could check up on my pc by a remote access tool?
    teamviewer or other tool. so you can see for yourself and get more into my problem and maybe find the problem and fix it if you can :)
    is that something you want to help me with ?.

    as you sayd something about drivers.
    i think my drivers are fine. but maybe you know something else if you remote assist to check :)
    and maybe you can find something else wrong with the system .

    i often use the scan & restore health in prompt.
    sfc /scannow and restorehealth blabla :)
    shows no problems ever, but i feel there is something wrong.

    i just really really want a good gaming experience. and fast reaction. good fps and all that.
    it has to run as good as possible. i just dont know how to set the components higher up as they should be.


    and about your setup . WOW 4.6ghz oc on cpu. sounds awesome. if i set mine to 4.2 or 4.3 it will go down..
    maybe its becourse i dont set anything else up. seens i dont know much about oc. but it could be great to run some more power and still stable condition..
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  12. In reverse
    OC. There's lots to read and watch about OC and how to. Everything from Asus ROG forums, here, YouTube etc. Learn everything that you can. Your cpu is 3.5GHz base, turbo (default) 3.9GHz on 2 cores, 3.8GHz on 3 cores and 3.7GHz on all 4. With your cooler, 4.6GHz is easily attainable according to temps, but that generation cpu has a limit of 1.3v vcore, that must not be exceeded. As you learn about what OC really is, you'll understand better what that means.
    Prime95 v26.6 small fft is best for finding max temps at 100% cpu usage. Should be running at @70°C or less. Test for at least a half hour with liquid coolers.
    Asus RealBench is best for stability as it works the entire pc, not just the cpu.

    Sfc /scannow has 1 job. Repair busted system files. You can have the slowest running pc in 3 counties and have absolutely no busted system files. So it's honestly not doing much at all. There's lots of stuff that needs doing to maintain performance in a pc. Keep it clean inside, dust it out every so often, especially the radiator, as that'll get the 'dust donuts' from the fans blowing air through it. If dust builds up, it traps heat which causes throttling of speeds. Keep windows, internet clean, use CCleaner (piriform.com) to keep all the junk files to a minimum and clean out the cache files. That goes for the registry too, just be careful with that, always say yes to the backup.

    Windows10 Creator's Edition update has played havoc with older motherboard drivers. Not recognizing date codes, using newer version numbers that aren't specific for the hardware etc. So goto the motherboard vendors website and download/install the latest audio and LAN drivers. Also try and keep gpu drivers up to date, there's always patches being applied to games etc.

    No, I don't do remote access to other ppl pc's, sorry. You say you aren't good with computers, ok no worries, learning basic maintenence procedures isn't any harder than learning how to use the TV remote. There's just a few more steps is all.

    Lga1156 - lga1151 all use the same bracket, as the dimensions of the 4 pin holes on the mobo for the cooler are identical. So a cooler that fits lga1155 will also fit lga1150 or lga1151. It's only the cpu that has a different socket pin count that changes. There's only a few sockets that are different, lga775, 1366, 2011, 2011v3 etc.

    Best advice I can give is start reading. Everything.
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  13. thanks for that answer..

    ill try search more on internet to get experience with OC the cpu. if you say i can get it up to 4.6 ill love that.
    i just dont know what to set in bios, others that the speed 4.6. if i save that my pc will go bluescreen i guess it becourse i havent tuned other things in bios to get the cpu up to 4.6..
    my small problem is that im not that good at english. and my country is not so good at all this. thats why im in here at Toms...
    i asked for someone to remote assist my pc. and check everything cuz i dont know more than basic clean and yes i also use CCleaner.
    its okay if you dont remote access others.
    but can you maybe tell me alittle basic what i need to set in bios other that speed 4.6 to actually get 4.6 ghz speed. i think im running on all 4 cores. im using that "cpuCoreparking" tool. all 4 cores running when i check in there. but thats only a tool who knows if its true :)
    or maybe you can give me a link to the right place for me, when it comes to OC cpu on my system. Rog. maximus vi hero . OC.. gaming. ;)

    many thanks for your messages
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  14. https://rog.asus.com/articles/overclocking/guide-overclocking-core-i7-4790k-devils-canyon-with-asus-z97-motherboards/

    Start here. Can also Google ' overclock 4790k on Asus maximus' and get a bunch of YouTube videos. The best place to find info for OC that cpu on that board is Asus ROG forums, who have pages and pages of articles and posts about what ppl with that board (the maximus series are all pretty much the same bios, so things roll from the formula to hero etc)
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  15. Karadjgne said:
    https://rog.asus.com/articles/overclocking/guide-overclocking-core-i7-4790k-devils-canyon-with-asus-z97-motherboards/

    Start here. Can also Google ' overclock 4790k on Asus maximus' and get a bunch of YouTube videos. The best place to find info for OC that cpu on that board is Asus ROG forums, who have pages and pages of articles and posts about what ppl with that board (the maximus series are all pretty much the same bios, so things roll from the formula to hero etc)


    yes i have 4770k and maximus vi hero. and i did follow an youtube guide for maximus vi hero. and another lower model i7..
    i was able to get 4.2ghz no more. 4.3 gave me bluescreen so i don't know whats wrong from here. i found a problem that my cpu was running 2 cores instead of 4. so now ill try set it to 4.3 again. but voltage im not so much into. thats why i needed some pro or more experienced person to sit and help me with it :)
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  16. A good, stable OC can take weeks of testing and tweaking. You'll have to learn about LLC, ring voltage, BCLK, vcore, SA agent, multiplier, offset voltage, c-states, EIST, VID etc. This is why remote access or even 1-1 help isn't good, your cpu is slightly different to everyone else's and will respond slightly different to different settings, all of which you must discover for yourself. Nobody will sit and wait while you take 30 minutes to change 1 value from 1.8 to 1.7 then stress test. OC on Intel cpu's is more of a hobby than a necessity, so should be done like a hobby, in your spare time.

    It's not just setting vcore higher and multiplier higher. My 3570k has a stock voltage of 1.25v @3.4GHz. Currently it's sitting at 4.3GHz at 1.114v and runs cooler under stress tests than at stock settings as a result.
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  17. Karadjgne said:
    A good, stable OC can take weeks of testing and tweaking. You'll have to learn about LLC, ring voltage, BCLK, vcore, SA agent, multiplier, offset voltage, c-states, EIST, VID etc. This is why remote access or even 1-1 help isn't good, your cpu is slightly different to everyone else's and will respond slightly different to different settings, all of which you must discover for yourself. Nobody will sit and wait while you take 30 minutes to change 1 value from 1.8 to 1.7 then stress test. OC on Intel cpu's is more of a hobby than a necessity, so should be done like a hobby, in your spare time.

    It's not just setting vcore higher and multiplier higher. My 3570k has a stock voltage of 1.25v @3.4GHz. Currently it's sitting at 4.3GHz at 1.114v and runs cooler under stress tests than at stock settings as a result.


    i see. then i need to learn what you told me. its just alittle more difficult when i dont understand english perfectly. so the half i read i dont understand in the end. but ill try. thanks alot for your help here
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  18. well, if you only understand half of what you read, read it twice...
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  19. Karadjgne said:
    well, if you only understand half of what you read, read it twice...

    hahaha. yes ofcourse. but i still wanted a pro by my side in case i do something bad. 4 eyes is better than 2. thanks again.
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