Entrance into Custom Cooling

Ok, so, I've been doing a lot of research into building a custom liquid cooling loop, and I have some questions of my own that may not have been answered through anything I've researched yet so far. I'm looking to start this VERY SLOWLY so to start I'll probably start with an all in one (not closed loop but all pieces included) custom loop setup. Now for questions:

Q. When you build a custom loop, how often do you need to drain/clean the loop if ever?

Q. Is there a place that exists commonly anywhere where one can actually go and watch in-person the construction of a liquid cooling loop to bypass some of the harsh learning mishaps?

Q. What in your personal opinion, is the best all pieces included custom loop to buy?

Thanks for knowledge and informations!
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  1. 1. About 2 times a year.
    2. YouTube.
    3. Stick with air.
    Reply to Zerk2012
  2. As I said before, I've done a lot of research, watched a lot of YouTube, so I'm not looking for the answer to this to be "YouTube". I'm looking for a more specific and experienced answer to attempt to bypass making as many learning mistakes as possible. Why should I stick with only air cooling when liquid cooling gets way better performance out of a build?
    Reply to crazedanonymouspcdesigner
  3. crazedanonymouspcdesigner said:
    As I said before, I've done a lot of research, watched a lot of YouTube, so I'm not looking for the answer to this to be "YouTube". I'm looking for a more specific and experienced answer to attempt to bypass making as many learning mistakes as possible. Why should I stick with only air cooling when liquid cooling gets way better performance out of a build?

    Stick to air Because we see like 4-5 Posts everyday of Dead Pumps and other stuffs there are very good air coolers in markets which can cool your CPU as Close to the liquid cooler
    i myself was using the AIO but not i am using Air Cooler and i am soo much happy and i dont have to watch the temp and worry about the pump fail and other stuffs
    Reply to nitinvaid20
  4. Well, alright, in that case, I'm using a Corsaid Hydro H110i for my CPU and I have an Asus Strix 1080Ti on order so that's my cooling setup apart from the 15 3000 RPM Noctua case fans I have in my build, but I am looking for a more cosmetically sound build which is why I'm looking into the custom loop.
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  5. Why, in the name of all that is holy do you have 15 fans?-or is that just light sarcasm? ;)

    If you're determined to go for a full custom loop the EKWB configurator is a handy place to start looking for parts.

    Be aware, swapping the GPU cooler will usually invalidate the warranty, so either go for an EVGA card ( they're OK with users removing/replacing coolers ) or look for one of the few cards with a built in water block.

    First pitfall: Wrong case. obviously the case has to have enough space to hold the pump/res but also the radiator/s.

    Second pitfall: Wrong rad. Size, thickness and fin count add complexity to the decision. Larger radiators cool better for less noise, thicker radiators likewise but require stronger fans to force cool air through them which can create noise and while dense fins cool excellently they also require strong, possibly noisy fans to get the job done.

    Third pitfall: Wrong pump. For just a CPU/GPU loop there's no need for a massive pump, in fact most systems are not very sensitive to coolant flow through the radiator and water blocks but airflow through the radiator is critical.

    Fourth pitfall: Wrong fans. Choose the fans to match the radiator, even thick low fin count radiators don't need hugely powerful fans while relatively slim high fin count radiators will need high static pressure fans to work effectively.

    Fifth pitfall: Trying to do it all in one go. You can have cool or you can have quiet, but both is really expensive without either a massive radiator or a dual rad setup, which gets complicated.

    Final pitfall: Failing to plan. Where are the components going to go? How will you connect them? You'll need to be able to visualise the entire system in your head before you can decide on what fittings you'll need to connect the parts.
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  6. So I build currently out of a Thermaltake Core-X9. if you know anything about this case, it is designed specifically for extreme liquid cooling. No, I really do have 15 Noctua 140mm 3000 RPM fan controlled case fans because I want absolute control of the moving air inside of my case. I have not enough experience about which parts to buy individually which is why I'd like to go with an all parts in one cooling kit at first, if I were to go that route. I do heavy modding of PC games as much as I can so I really need a powerhouse of a system for my gaming needs. So far the CLC's have served me pretty well, but as a PC Gaming/Building enthusiast I feel a strong pull from a cosmetically-minded perspective to make this leap since it's a small step into the humungous world of cosmetic customization on the other side of this little blocker.

    Full build specs for reference:
    Thermaltake Core-X9 computer case
    x15 140mm 3000 RPM Noctua Case Fans w/ fan control
    Corsair Ax1200i PSU w/red braided cable kit
    MSI X99 Gaming9 ACK motherboard
    Intel i7-5960X CPU
    Corsair Hydro H110i CPU Cooler
    Asus Strix GTX 1080 Ti
    Samsung 950 Pro M.2 system drive (setup as a crash build)
    Windows 10 Pro
    Asus PG348Q Display
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  7. Question 1:
    That depends totally on your build. There are factors like water temp overall over time used, did you mix the coolant yourself or did you use pre-mix, Do you have color in the fluid if yes then what color and what brand are you using, did you clean the radiators well before putting them into the loop or not, what kind of metals are the water comming into contact with, are the cooling parts made from a "high" quality manufacturer, etc etc..

    So you could be totally unlucky and you need to swap fluids and take the loop apart to clean radiators, fittings and blocks in as little as 2 months.
    Or you have done everything correct and your fluid is nice and everything is in working order after 2-3 years or even longer (but that is pushing it)
    But a well cleaned and built loop should last atleast 1 year before having to change fluids.

    Question 2:
    Not that I know of. Only way to find sutch a spot is to figure out where someone who does build this as a job, live or work. Then make a call and ask very very polite if you could come and learn and ask questions.

    Question 3:
    Best pieces for a custom water loop if you ask me..
    Radiators: Hardwarelabs Black nemisis GTX and/or SR2 (performance and noice acoustics)
    Fans: EK-Vardar 120/140 ER, Silent Wings 3
    Pump: D5 PWM (does not matter that mutch what kind of brand since a D5 is... well a D5)
    Water blocks: EK or watercool Heatkiller
    Fittings: Bitspower, Barrow, Monsoon, Phanteks (this is with hardline tubing in mind)

    Now this last thing is totally optional and not needed ofc...
    But you should look into getting an Aquaero 6.
    If you do however the list on what pump to get swaps to aquaero D5 PWM pump ofc, so you could link it with the aquaero and software.
    I have it cause I like to keep track on everything in my loop, and it does that + way more.
    Reply to lumineZ
  8. Thanks for the response I sincerely appreciate it! :D
    Reply to crazedanonymouspcdesigner
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