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Motherboard AM3 is broken, what now?

So my 7-year old mobo (MSI 870 G45) is finally resting in eternal slumber. The problem is, since my cpu (Athlon x3 440) still runs, should I replace the mobo only (stick to the ancient AM3 socket) or upgrade both the cpu and mobo (plus ddr4 memory)? It's only a matter of time until the cpu dies anyway, right? I am looking at pentium G4560, but it's so ridiculously expensive in my country Indonesia (~USD 90 here). Nonetheless I include it in my options::

G4560 + GB GA-H110M-DS2 = USD 145.21
G4400 + MSI H110M Pro-VH plus = USD 128.61

I think I should skip the FM2+ (old, no DDR4 support) and AM4 (too expensive, better go with Skylake right?). If you have better options, please let me know.
Please help me decide guys!

Thanks!
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  1. Wouldn't get any of those, frankly. If you can wait, wait for Coffee Lake. They might have something good at the lower-end, though it's mostly the higher-end where the focus is. Are you sure a Ryzen 3 1200 is too expensive for you? The G4560 is a capable processor, but H110 is really a dead platform too now, since it won't support Coffee Lake.
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  2. Hi Shektron, thanks for your suggestion.

    Then should I go for B250 motherboard?
    Or according to your suggestion, Ryzen 3 1200 + Asrock AB320M-HDV ? Price should be similar to the G4560/H110 option. Is Ryzen 3 really the better option?
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  3. pratyaksa said:
    Hi Shektron, thanks for your suggestion.

    Then should I go for B250 motherboard?
    Or according to your suggestion, Ryzen 3 1200 + Asrock AB320M-HDV ? Price should be similar to the G4560/H110 option. Is Ryzen 3 really the better option?


    Don't get a B250 either - it won't support Coffee Lake. And yes, Ryzen is the better option simply because you have the option to upgrade the processor when the 4 cores of the Ryzen 3 become insufficient(which will be pretty soon). AM4 support is bound to last till at least 2020 according to AMD, which means you will have more CPU options that'll still work on AM4 motherboards. Meanwhile, a B250 will support a 7700K at the most, which is already losing its appeal now. However try to get a B350 motherboard if possible, A320 really isn't for custom builds.
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  4. On the second thought, I think Ryzen 3 will blow my budget away. What about Athlon X4 950? It's based on the new AM4, so it should be good right? I will be pairing the new cpu with RX 560 anyway, so I don't need an ultra powerful cpu. Gaming at 1366x768p.
    What do you think?
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  5. If you're really that low on budget, stick with the G4560 then. RX 560 and G4560 will go well together. Don't bother with AMD if you can't get Ryzen. That Athlon is worse than the G4560.
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  6. pratyaksa said:
    On the second thought, I think Ryzen 3 will blow my budget away. What about Athlon X4 950? It's based on the new AM4, so it should be good right? I will be pairing the new cpu with RX 560 anyway, so I don't need an ultra powerful cpu. Gaming at 1366x768p.
    What do you think?


    AM4 is the socket, not the platform itself. The Bristol Ridge series is just an iteration of the old architecture that works on AM4. If it were a very budget Ryzen, it'd be interesting, but it's essentially just an A10-9700 without integrated graphics.

    Pentium G4560 is far more interesting, but make sure to get a b250 motherboard; in most cases, you won't know ahead of time if an h110 motherboard has had its BIOS updated to run Kaby Lakes.
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  7. Shektron said:
    If you're really that low on budget, stick with the G4560 then. RX 560 and G4560 will go well together. Don't bother with AMD if you can't get Ryzen. That Athlon is worse than the G4560.


    Is Athlon x4 950 that bad? All YT videos I have watched indeed show G4560 as the winner, but they all used higher end graphics cards (GTX 1060, 1050Ti), thus maybe the Athlon bottleneck. If RX 560 was used instead, perhaps the results would be more similar? What about A8 9600, it costs the same as the Athlon (wasted iGPU? since I have a dGPU already). But if it's that bad, then I have 2 choices:

    Ryzen 3 1200 + A320M-HDV
    G4560 + B250

    Do you think it's okay to use H110M instead of B250 for the G4560? Aside from the bios update (let the shopkeeper do it), what's the advantage of B250 over H110M?
    Sorry for the long discussion, that $50 difference with the Athlon/A8 is really intriguing.
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    pratyaksa said:
    Shektron said:
    If you're really that low on budget, stick with the G4560 then. RX 560 and G4560 will go well together. Don't bother with AMD if you can't get Ryzen. That Athlon is worse than the G4560.


    Is Athlon x4 950 that bad? All YT videos I have watched indeed show G4560 as the winner, but they all used higher end graphics cards (GTX 1060, 1050Ti), thus maybe the Athlon bottleneck. If RX 560 was used instead, perhaps the results would be more similar? What about A8 9600, it costs the same as the Athlon (wasted iGPU? since I have a dGPU already). But if it's that bad, then I have 2 choices:

    Ryzen 3 1200 + A320M-HDV
    G4560 + B250

    Do you think it's okay to use H110M instead of B250 for the G4560? Aside from the bios update (let the shopkeeper do it), what's the advantage of B250 over H110M?
    Sorry for the long discussion, that $50 difference with the Athlon/A8 is really intriguing.


    An Athlon is not bad - it's just that it's not really an upgrade to the older ones - it's just an old Athlon modded to fit the AM4 motherboards. An RX 560 will probably remain the bottleneck in most games if you pair up the two.

    Honestly, for an RX 560 and the 768p resolution, you're overthinking here. Just get whatever fits your budget nicely. Get the G4560 with the B250. The H110 will also work just fine, just make sure about the BIOS update.
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  9. Shektron said:

    An Athlon is not bad - it's just that it's not really an upgrade to the older ones - it's just an old Athlon modded to fit the AM4 motherboards. An RX 560 will probably remain the bottleneck in most games if you pair up the two.

    Honestly, for an RX 560 and the 768p resolution, you're overthinking here. Just get whatever fits your budget nicely. Get the G4560 with the B250. The H110 will also work just fine, just make sure about the BIOS update.

    Thank you for your suggestion. But I think I will go for the Athlon. I am not sure if $50 is worth the extra performance, especially with RX560 and 768p combo for budget gaming. I will just use the extra bucks for a new DDR4 memory.

    Thanks again!
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