Upgrading to the 8700k after 7 years. Advice on this build please. $2,000+

Salvaging some parts from my current system to upgrade to the Z370 / 8700k that's coming soon. Want to pick up some parts in the meantime and wanted to get advice on the parts that I've selected.

Considering to buy new
CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K Six-Core Processor ($400.00)
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly - Kryonaut 1g 1g Thermal Paste ($11.99)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z270-K ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($133.49)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($151.88)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card ($749.99)
Monitor: Acer - XB271HU bmiprz 27.0" 2560x1440 165Hz Monitor ($799.00)
Keyboard: Filco - Ninja Majestouch-2 TKL Wired Standard Keyboard ($134.00)
Delid Kit: der8auer Delid Die Mate 2 + UHU Silicone + Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut ($72.00)
Total: $2,452

The selected Z270 board is a placeholder only. I don't intend to buy a super high end motherboard like the Rampage Extreme, etc. In my experience, the lower end of a line are generally as stable and provide 90% of the features that you end up using.

Salvaging from current system
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler
SSD: Samsung - 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
SSD: Samsung - 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Storage: Western Digital - VelociRaptor 1TB 3.5" 10000RPM Internal Hard Drive
Case: be quiet! - Dark Base Pro 900 w/Window (Black) ATX Full Tower Case
Power Supply: OCZ - ZX 850W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Sound Card: Asus - Xonar DX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card
Audio: Objective2 and ODAC DAC & Amplifier
Headphones: Sennheiser - G4ME ZERO Black Headset
Mouse: Zowie - EC1-A Wired Optical Mouse
Mousepad: Steelseries QCK+ Slim Mousepad

Specifically, I'd love to get thoughts on the following:
- Best value recommendations for which 1080ti to buy?
- What 1440p 144hz+ monitor to get?
- What ram to get and is 3400mhz compared to 3000mhz worth it or not?
- What keyboard is better than my current (but worn) Filco - Ninja Majestouch-2?
- If the 7700k delid kit will work with the 8700k?
- Is the Xonar DX sound card is worth upgrading or not?
- Anything other parts I should consider buying? :)

Thanks in advance!
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  1. You'll need a Z370 motherboard to make that rig work. And unfortunately not too many details are known about them yet.

    To answer your questions:

    1. I'd go with the Asus ROG as it's one of the best coolers you can buy, but you can't really go wrong with Asus, MSI, EVGA, or Gigabyte.

    2. If you decide to go with a monitor of that caliber, keep in mind that with Asus ROG and Acer Predator, they are about $300 - $400 more than the rest of the competition, and you're mainly paying for the brand name. Samsung, Asus (non branded), Dell, and LG are better buys.

    3. 3200 MHz is pretty much the sweet spot right now, most motherboards won't support higher speeds than that even with XMP enabled.

    4. Not familiar with that keyboard but you can't go wrong with the Razer Chroma or a Corsair Vengeance K95.

    5. Delidding is *EXTREMELY* risky and it's not always a sure thing. Plus it can and most likely will void your warranty. I wouldn't worry about it unless you are absolutely sure you can be successful at it.

    6. Depends on your speaker setup.

    7. I'd switch the Vengeance RAM for G Skill Trident Z but that's about it really.
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  2. Yes I know. The board I selected is a placeholder.
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  3. delatroy said:
    Yes I know. The board I selected is a placeholder.


    I'd get a new PSU and also don't forget operating system.
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  4. Even though your PSU is a good one, and highly rated, it IS (or will Be) seven years old. As PSU's decline with age, I would recommend getting a new one with your other new components.
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  5. clarkjd said:
    Even though your PSU is a good one, and highly rated, it IS (or will Be) seven years old. As PSU's decline with age, I would recommend getting a new one with your other new components.


    Oh that's interesting. Never heard this before. I find it hard to believe it will deteriorate to the point that it'll destroy the new components. Any evidence for this kind of thing happening?
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  6. delatroy said:
    clarkjd said:
    Even though your PSU is a good one, and highly rated, it IS (or will Be) seven years old. As PSU's decline with age, I would recommend getting a new one with your other new components.


    Oh that's interesting. Never heard this before. I find it hard to believe it will deteriorate to the point that it'll destroy the new components. Any evidence for this kind of thing happening?


    Your PSU capacitors erode over time, just like any other battery would. Think of it like a battery actually - the more you use it, the more you won't get the full functionality of it as time passes. While it won't flat out destroy your components, the worst it could do is just fail to power on your system and most likely won't handle your new components as it would your previous ones.
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  7. clarkjd said:
    ..most likely won't handle your new components as it would your previous ones.


    I doubt this. Its 850W which gives it more than enough headroom for this rig even considering lost efficiencies.
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  8. Think of it this way. When you power supply finally decides to die in for example 1-2 years (Not likely but possible), would you want it to destroy and take all of your new expensive internal components along with it? You'll want a new power supply with that build to ensure adequate power is being provided to all of your new components, also ensuring a longer life of all of your internal components. Although it is very possible that your PSU will provide adequate power to your rig for the next 5 - 10 years, but it's not worth the risk. The new PSU will have a warranty which may also cover the components that are connected to it. Keep the old PSU around for a known good spare.
    I upgraded my sandy bridge rig to a gtx 1070 and bought a new EVGA 550 psu to go along with it because I didn't want to take a chance with my old existing PSU.
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  9. If your going for the high end monitor like that pick the ASUS ROG PG278QR. Its the same stats but $100 less. My other suggestion would be to pass on the Delid of the CPU. If you can run it with the lid on without super high temps then your still good. You could even tell your friends that you did Delid it... how will they ever know? How many friends go digging in your computer case??
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  10. Geef said:
    If your going for the high end monitor like that pick the ASUS ROG PG278QR. Its the same stats but $100 less. My other suggestion would be to pass on the Delid of the CPU. If you can run it with the lid on without super high temps then your still good. You could even tell your friends that you did Delid it... how will they ever know? How many friends go digging in your computer case??

    Lol did I over read part of the post where he's de-lidding is due to peer pressure?
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  11. Geef said:
    If your going for the high end monitor like that pick the ASUS ROG PG278QR. Its the same stats but $100 less. My other suggestion would be to pass on the Delid of the CPU. If you can run it with the lid on without super high temps then your still good. You could even tell your friends that you did Delid it... how will they ever know? How many friends go digging in your computer case??


    I want to overclock as high as possible and delidding the 7700k resulted in as much as -30c. I'm also expecting, as usual, Intel not to have bothered soldering for this refresh. Even if they do make an improvement, with an extra 2 cores and higher clocks, still may make sense to delid.
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  12. delatroy said:
    I want to overclock as high as possible and delidding the 7700k resulted in as much as -30c. I'm also expecting, as usual, Intel not to have bothered soldering for this refresh. Even if they do make an improvement, with an extra 2 cores and higher clocks, still may make sense to delid.


    Keep in mind what I said about delidding - it is *NOT* a sure thing. It is an experiment. And a very dangerous one at that. If done improperly, delidding can cause serious damage to your motherboard, CPU and all the components connected to it. It will not guarantee that kind of a result. It is very risky at this point to even consider, and if any damage is caused to your CPU by doing this, it will void your warranty. People have been successful but there's a lot of skill involved in doing this and it's not easy by any stretch of the imagination.
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  13. delatroy said:
    Geef said:
    If your going for the high end monitor like that pick the ASUS ROG PG278QR. Its the same stats but $100 less. My other suggestion would be to pass on the Delid of the CPU. If you can run it with the lid on without super high temps then your still good. You could even tell your friends that you did Delid it... how will they ever know? How many friends go digging in your computer case??


    I want to overclock as high as possible and delidding the 7700k resulted in as much as -30c. I'm also expecting, as usual, Intel not to have bothered soldering for this refresh. Even if they do make an improvement, with an extra 2 cores and higher clocks, still may make sense to delid.

    You won't need to overclock that cpu for quite some time. It's best to hold off on overclocking until it's needed. But if you still do decide to overclock, there's another reason why having a new power supply could benefit the outcome.
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  14. Dang, too bad I can't delid mine and get the temp lowered by -30c. Mine runs at around 29c - 30c idle. I could use my chip as a refrigerator and the heatsink could be used to make icecubes for my drink!
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  15. Geef said:
    Dang, too bad I can't delid mine and get the temp lowered by -30c. Mine runs at around 29c - 30c idle. I could use my chip as a refrigerator and the heatsink could be used to make icecubes for my drink!

    Lol you know people are going to take you seriously and try to correct you on this. Good one though.
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  16. delatroy said:


    Oh that's interesting. Never heard this before. I find it hard to believe it will deteriorate to the point that it'll destroy the new components. Any evidence for this kind of thing happening?


    My recent Corsair CX600 and Gigabyte Z77 motherboard.
    PSU poofed, killing the motherboard as well. Last November.
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  17. delatroy said:


    I want to overclock as high as possible and delidding the 7700k resulted in as much as -30c. I'm also expecting, as usual, Intel not to have bothered soldering for this refresh. Even if they do make an improvement, with an extra 2 cores and higher clocks, still may make sense to delid.


    Unless you are seeing full load temps north of 85C+, there is absolutely zero need to delid anything.

    The performance difference between 85C and 50C is exactly zero.
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  18. delatroy said:
    clarkjd said:
    Even though your PSU is a good one, and highly rated, it IS (or will Be) seven years old. As PSU's decline with age, I would recommend getting a new one with your other new components.


    Oh that's interesting. Never heard this before. I find it hard to believe it will deteriorate to the point that it'll destroy the new components. Any evidence for this kind of thing happening?

    You have a 2.4K build, but won't consider spending 10%(or less) of that budget for a new PSU, the heart of your system?
    Your current PSU is seven years old, which means that it is seven years closer to failing. Also if it DOES take out your other components, you might not be able to get them replaced under warranty due to using a seven year old PSU.
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  19. USAFRet said:
    Unless you are seeing full load temps north of 85C+, there is absolutely zero need to delid anything.

    The performance difference between 85C and 50C is exactly zero.


    Yeah and it's not exactly a sure thing either. It's very risky and has serious consequences if not done properly, I can't stress this enough.
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  20. I don't understand why the placeholder motherboard? It's not like the 8xxx series will reuse socket 1151 for a third time... and I get the feeling that you believe it will. Sandy & Ivy used socket 1155, Haswell & Broadwell were on 1150, Skylake and Kaby are 1151 (see the pattern there?)

    Just use your current system until the new chips arrive and then buy would be my advice.

    The only thing I would recommend getting now is ddr4, the most compatible stuff you can find, or talk to your intended manufacturer and see if the current stuff will even work with the new cpu & chipset. They surely have a testing platform already.
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