Ryzen 1700 : Stutter while gaming

--- Description ---

In the games I've tried, all of them has been plagued with stuttering which makes them unplayable for me.

[Bad Company 2, BF3, BF4, BF1, Mad Max, Just Cause 3, STALKER, ARMA 3,
Far Cry, Left 4 Dead]


--- SPECS ---


Drive : Samsung 850 EVO 500GB (SATA 6G | 30GB free)
OS : Win 10 Pro (updated)
CPU : Ryzen 1700 (stock clocks and cooler)
Mobo: Gigabyte AX370 K7 (F7a BIOS)
RAM : 2x Vengeance LPX 3000Mhz 4gb (@ 2133Mhz)
GPU : GTX 1080
PSU : Corsair RM750x
Monitor: SyncMaster SA850T 1440p 60Hz


--- What I've Tried ---

1) Updated drivers for mobo and gpu.
2) Checked CPU/GPU temps and were good.
3) Ryzen balanced plan
4) Updated bios to F4 for the main bios.
5) Tried running from backup bios.
6) Windows selective startup, disabling all non-ms services.
7) Reseated ram and gpu.
8) Malware/Virus scan clean.
9) V-Sync on/off.
10) Reset Windows (keeping personal files), installed drivers again.
11) Updated F4 bios to F7a.
12) Disabled Simultaneous MultiThreading (SMT).
13) Disabled High Precision Event Timer (HPET) in bios.
14) Fresh Windows 10 install, installing only the GPU drivers.
15) Prime95: 2 hours with small ffts, passed.
16) Reverted back to Win 10 Anniversary Edition.
17) Tried another PCe slot
18) Tried a new video card


Cherry Blossom's Recommendations

1) Disabled the Xbox app video recorder and the NVidia one.
2) Disabled search indexing and compatibility telemetry scan.
3) Frame limiter set to 60 in Nvidia Profile Inspector


Goldstone77's Recommendations

1) Checked DPC with LatencyMon, came back good


--- Updates ---

I tried the original Far Cry game and I still got the stutters. I also noticed that, when moving the mouse around, the there is a vibration like effect going on as well. It looks like the screen is vibrating slightly and would be similar to the effects of a camera being slid across a fine-tooth blade.

I've also come to notice that, while watching a video for example, there will be times of split second freezes where there audio will make a "brrrrrr' sound.

Gigabyte tech support told me they are leaning toward a defective motherboard and have suggested I open an RMA request.
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  1. Try disabling the Xbox app video recorder and the NVidia one.

    Disable search indexing
    Disable compatability telemetry scan.

    You didn't state your monitor. Using a program such as NVidia Profile Inspector to set your Frame Rate Limiter to your max monitor display rate may help with frame pacing as well, so the card isn't wasting resources trying to assemble frames faster than the display can draw them. Most helpful if your display is 60hz
    Reply to cherry blossoms
  2. Hi - I noticed you have only 8GB of ram. I do not know if this is the cause, but I think 16GB is the minimum for a capable PC
    Reply to gush.goldstein
  3. gush.goldstein said:
    Hi - I noticed you have only 8GB of ram. I do not know if this is the cause, but I think 16GB is the minimum for a capable PC


    I could see that as a possibility in a game like Battlefield 1, but wouldn't be a factor Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3 or STALKER. STALKER, for example, has a 512 minimum and 1 GB as recommended. However, more ram is on the way so I'll get to see how that works out in Battlefield 1.
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  4. cherry blossoms said:
    Try disabling the Xbox app video recorder and the NVidia one.

    Disable search indexing
    Disable compatability telemetry scan.

    You didn't state your monitor. Using a program such as NVidia Profile Inspector to set your Frame Rate Limiter to your max monitor display rate may help with frame pacing as well, so the card isn't wasting resources trying to assemble frames faster than the display can draw them. Most helpful if your display is 60hz


    I completed those recommendations and the issue is still present. I also tried Planetside 2 and the max ram usage was 6 gigs of 8.
    Reply to xxn2theredxx
  5. CTRL+ALT+DEL>Click on Performance>Monitor memory, disk, and CPU before gaming and during gaming. Check for high utilization on any of these resources.
    Reply to goldstone77
  6. goldstone77 said:
    CTRL+ALT+DEL>Click on Performance>Monitor memory, disk, and CPU before gaming and during gaming. Check for high utilization on any of these resources.


    Drive H is where my games are installed.
    Reply to xxn2theredxx
  7. Running out of memory, disk transfer spikes is virtual memory. Hard drive being used instead of RAM>
    Reply to goldstone77
  8. goldstone77 said:
    Running out of memory, disk transfer spikes is virtual memory. Hard drive being used instead of RAM>


    Here is one example where memory isn't a problem, yet the stuttering remains.


    Interestingly, at times it would freeze for about half a second before snapping back. Other than that, the general experience was random stutter out side of any freezes.
    Reply to xxn2theredxx
  9. can't speak for the rest of them but JC3 has a memory leak and performs quite poorly on 8gb
    Reply to Jamie_69
  10. Jamie_69 said:
    can't speak for the rest of them but JC3 has a memory leak and performs quite poorly on 8gb


    Admittedly, I used some poor test examples for having only 8 gigs of ram. I just loaded up a quick run with Left 4 Dead, and the stutter was there as well.
    Reply to xxn2theredxx
  11. Can you overclock your RAM at all and see if that helps?
    Reply to goldstone77
  12. You are using a 1080... That thing shouldn't stutter. It has to be resources.
    Reply to goldstone77
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  14. Are you using the latest drivers.
    Reply to goldstone77
  15. goldstone77 said:


    I ran that and it didn't spike and I have the latest drivers.

    Interestingly, a friend asked me a few minutes ago if I had to download BC2 again because of this new system, I told him no, I just transferred the hard drives over and booted up windows. That's no something I even considered until he asked me about it.

    A quick search shows that it can be done by running [%windir%\system32\sysprep\sysprep.exe /generalize /oobe /shutdown] from the command line before transferring over to a new system.
    Reply to xxn2theredxx
  16. Download the driver from the website. Remove the current driver. Restart your computer, and do a fresh install of the driver from file.
    Reply to goldstone77
  17. goldstone77 said:
    Download the driver from the website. Remove the current driver. Restart your computer, and do a fresh install of the driver from file.


    After doing some more reading, I see that just plugging in a boot drive to a new system without running sysprep.exe will cause the windows to be non-genuine on the new system, and that's the case here.

    I could try to put it back into the old rig, run sysprep and then transfer it back over to download all the drivers again.
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  18. Other things to check:

    Delivery optimization set to OFF, this is on by default and treats your computer like a torrent seed for windows updates. This is under advanced update, way at the bottom, tiny text "choose how updates are delivered"

    Go through your privacy options and turn off what you can, you can turn off ALOT. This reduces churn and interrupts.

    Use a 3rd party program like W10Privacy to turn off even more items.

    https://www.winprivacy.de/english-home/

    Are you using your killer networking? If so, get the bare INF drivers, uninstall the entire suite, use device manager to install just the bare driver from the INF files.

    http://www.killernetworking.com/driver-downloads/category/other-downloads

    If you did a full install on the graphics drivers, do a clean custom install. Install only the graphics driver, Phys-x, and (if needed) the HDMI sound. No 3d stuff or Nvidia Experience. There will still be some telemetry items from NVidia if you do this, but you can find these with Microsoft's sysinternals Process Explorer . Checking what is booting in the background with Autoruns may be enlightening as well.

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/process-utilities


    and umm, yeah, old drivers can mess things up as well if you just pulled the old drives and put them as is in the new hardware.
    Reply to cherry blossoms
  19. cherry blossoms said:
    Other things to check:

    Delivery optimization set to OFF, this is on by default and treats your computer like a torrent seed for windows updates. This is under advanced update, way at the bottom, tiny text "choose how updates are delivered"

    ...


    I just reset the computer while keeping personal files. I've installed all the drivers as before and the result is still the same. I'm going to do all the things you've recommended again including what's in your previous message.

    In the previous state of the machine, I did the majority of stuff turned off using a program similar to the one you linked.
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  20. Also, are you running any system control software? Some people have had success removing the Gigabyte system control software (Fusion I think it is called?)

    Also, the Samsung software is extra, not needed for your SSD. You can run without that as well if you installed it.
    Reply to cherry blossoms
  21. I've just completed a clean install of Win 10, having only installed the GPU drivers, followed the applicable list above for disabling services and the stutter is still there.
    Reply to xxn2theredxx
  22. I'm starting to believe it's the motherboard.
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  23. I looked across the internet and seen people have problems of stuttering the the 1080. Replacing it with a new 1080 of a different brand didn't fix the problem. Is it possible to put the 1080 into another computer just to eliminate that as a problem? Or putting in another video card in your computer to see if the problem still exists? Maybe an older video card?
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  24. goldstone77 said:
    I looked across the internet and seen people have problems of stuttering the the 1080. Replacing it with a new 1080 of a different brand didn't fix the problem. Is it possible to put the 1080 into another computer just to eliminate that as a problem? Or putting in another video card in your computer to see if the problem still exists? Maybe an older video card?


    The GTX 1080 came from a Xeon x5680 rig, and there were no problems at all there. All I did was transfer it over from the old rig to the new one. However, I do have an RX 480 sitting beside me I can try in this new rig, that didn't cross my mind before.
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  25. Also, just to note this is arguable one of the best Ryzen motherboards.
    SRock X370 Taichi AM4 AMD Promontory X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $199.99
    Save: $10.00 (5%)
    $179.99 after $20.00 rebate
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757
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  26. goldstone77 said:
    Also, just to note this is arguable one of the best Ryzen motherboards.
    SRock X370 Taichi AM4 AMD Promontory X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $199.99
    Save: $10.00 (5%)
    $179.99 after $20.00 rebate
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157757


    Interestingly, that was my original choice! It looks really nice, has some awesome features, but didn't have lights. I like lights, so ultimately I went with the Gigabyte board. I didn't even read any reviews, it was just see, click and buy.

    However, I found the post below on another forum describing the same issues I am while also running a Ryzen and GTX 1080.

    Quote:
    OKAY OKAY GUYS LOOKS LIKE ITS FINALLY SOLVED !!
    First thank you EVERYONE for your help & effort.

    And now lets going to what has finally fixed it, if ever its helpful for somebody, I wouldn't wish this pain to even my worst enemy.

    1- FORMAT BACK to Windows Anniversary Update, it was the Creators Update fault -.-' seriously Microsoft or Nvidia, fix ur shit. (Thought this was fixed, but hell when I finally went to go read nvidia forums, tons of people with stuttering on CU).


    After checking, I find that I'm also running the community update. Might be worth a try to revert back, if that's possible.
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  27. I just came across the article below:

    "Microsoft admits game stuttering issues caused by the Windows 10 Creator’s Update
    September 11, 2017"
    http://www.dsogaming.com/news/microsoft-confirms-game-stuttering-issues-due-to-windows-10-creators-update/

    --- Update ---
    Pre Win CU did not solve the issue for me.
    Reply to xxn2theredxx
  28. If you do a search for stutter you'll find several people recently having this issue with one person saying it's like the screen is shaking slightly or shimmering. Maybe driver related? Try an older nvidia driver?
    Reply to Scott_123
  29. I've finally isolated the issue. Are you ready for this one?

    A faulty surge protector.

    I eventually came to notice that any computer hooked up on my main desk, to that surge protector, would have stutters, desktop freezes and distorted sound. I noticed that whenever I'd move a computer to the other desk, with another surge protector, they would work fine, I just never moved my new rig over there until after I started noticing something was off.

    I eventually switched the surge protectors around, and was able to produce the same results at both desks. Eventually, I tried my new rig on the other surge protector, and it has been working as intended ever since.
    Reply to xxn2theredxx
  30. Congratz
    Reply to goldstone77
  31. goldstone77 said:
    Congratz


    Have you ever heard of that happening before?
    Reply to xxn2theredxx
  32. Faulty electronics causing a wide array of problems, sure. Especially, with bad ground! That problem in particular no.
    Reply to goldstone77
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