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AIO Liquid and Case advice.

Hello Tom's, recently i upgraded my computer and i need to finish it with a new case and an AIO Liquid cooler.

My system is this right now.

cpu: Ryzen 5 1600 (oced to 3.8ghz)
cooler: stock
mobo: Asus Strix B350-f Gaming
vga: msi gtx 1060 6gb gaming x
ddr4: Kingston HyperX fury 2x4gb 2400mhz
sata: 600gb hard disk
psu: Thermaltake TR2 700w plus
case: Thermaltake Overseer White Edition

My budget is hardly around 300 euros (from Greece)

After many days of reading reviews and forums, i liked these pieces.

Cases: NZXT Noctis 450 White ~ Corsair Carbid 400c Window White ~ Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass and Maybe NZXT H440 Version 2.

as for AIO Liquid Cooler i liked these 2 mainly but its first time im going to get Liquid so im very scared if something goes wrong.

AIO: Arctic Liquid Freezer 240 ~ Corsair Hydro Series H105 ~ Maybe some NZXT Kraken? (they are very very expensive in Greece they go up to 170eu, thats 200 dollars lol.)

i plan to use the AIO Liquid cooler in the front side of the case for better overall case temps.

I really want someone who tried any of the above to share an opinion or advice.
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  1. There is very little difference in builds between different AIOs. All of the ones you listed are pretty good and if you can get any of them for a good price, you're not going to go wrong. Kraken is not super special imho, performance or quality wise to justify huge price difference. If you're going for the arctic one, make sure you have space at the front of the case to accommodate the extra fans. Make sure the tubing is long enough for front mounting of whatever case you decide to go with. All the cases you listed are good, though if it was my personal preference, I'd probably go with P400S or 400C.
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  2. Sedivy will this arctic liquid freezer do the job? its the cheapest AIO Liquid in Greek market, its only 80 euros. but to be honest i havent see any negative review about it on amazon or such sites, but cuz its cheap doesnt mean its bad or not reliable? for case i found the corsair carbid 400c today and its minimal and small but very good reviews, i think the water cables are long enough for any of these cases stated. NZXT confirmed me on their live chat that this Liquid cooler is compatible with front mount on all the cases.
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    Here's a list of good aio liquid coolers http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-cpu-coolers,4181-2.html as reviewed by tomshardware. It has both of your coolers on it, and if you click on each, you can read their individual reviews in depth. In short, they'll both do the job just fine. One con listed is width...extra set of fans is not usual config. If you talked to nzxt about their case and they confirmed that it would specifically fit the artic cooler then yes I'd go for it.
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  4. Honestly?
    Since the ryzen cpu's don't overclock a lot, the wraith coolers they come with seem to be quite able to cope just fine with 3.8GHz.
    If you plan on going over 3.8 then sure, get another cooler...or if you want to buy it for future upgrades.
    I might have been tempted to use the cooler money to get a 1700 (non x) to be honest... AND Ryzen certified 3200 RAM ... they seem to make quite a difference in some cases...
    But that's upto you.... if it's just games the extra 0,1-0,2 Ghz you -might- get with the 1600 is usualy more beneficial than the extra cores of the 1700.

    I've had my h105 since my 2500k and I'm very happy with it, but the arctic liquid seems to perform better and here in Greece it costs 40euros less.

    Χαιρετώ! :p
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  5. Maebius said:
    Honestly?
    Since the ryzen cpu's don't overclock a lot, the wraith coolers they come with seem to be quite able to cope just fine with 3.8GHz.
    If you plan on going over 3.8 then sure, get another cooler...or if you want to buy it for future upgrades.
    I might have been tempted to use the cooler money to get a 1700 (non x) to be honest... AND Ryzen certified 3200 RAM ... they seem to make quite a difference in some cases...
    But that's upto you.... if it's just games the extra 0,1-0,2 Ghz you -might- get with the 1600 is usualy more beneficial than the extra cores of the 1700.

    I've had my h105 since my 2500k and I'm very happy with it, but the arctic liquid seems to perform better and here in Greece it costs 40euros less.

    Χαιρετώ! :p


    Good morning :) (Kalimera)

    I dont plan to overclock any further, maybe i could only try for 4ghz but its gona be a silicon lottery task but im more than fine with 3.8ghz. i dont have temp issues at all, going max 60c with stock but to be honest i never had Liquid before and i would just like to have lower temps and maybe future use of the AIO liquid, i made up my mind for arctic liquid freezer 240 or the 360 but i have a very hard time to decide on a case.

    Maybe you can enlighten me up? im between these but its very hard to decide,

    Phanteks P400S Tempered Glass
    Corsair Carbide 400c window white
    NZXT 440 V2
    NZXT Noctis

    all of them have prons and cons and im very confused, i also want Lightning effects, good cable managment and dust protection.

    Thanks in advance.
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  6. The corsair looks very very tight inside and you can only put the 360mm radiator in front.
    The Phanteks is slightly larger but that can also only receive the 360mm radiator in front.
    In the NZXT ones look a bit larger and you can fit the radiator in front or on top.*
    The corsair/phanteks have "only" 2 usb ports in front so I dunno if that's going to be a problem for you.

    According to their specs, they all have at least a couple of dust filters.
    I've seen the Noctis up close and it looks really cool (on the expensive side though...) and it's cable management was relatively clutter-free.


    *I'm stating that since if you decide to change your radiator placement later on, you won't be able to if you get the 360mm one... putting it in front will force you to clean dust more frequently and will increase your gfx card's operating temperature a bit since it will be blowing mildly hot air inside.
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  7. I only wanna put my radiator in the front side, there are a couple videos on youtube with tests about where is the best place for liquid cooler's radiator and all prooved that front side in take with top and rear exhsausting is the best performance.

    So i plan to do the same. damn all these cases are so damn good..... so hard to decide lolz.... i kinda like Corsair Carbide 400C slightly more but im unaware if i put a 360 radiator in front i will have to remove the psu shroud or not... i cant find it anywhere, but ill keep searching.
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  8. Well from 400C review (http://www.bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/cases/corsair-carbide-series-400c-review/2/)
    Quote:
    The benefit of using a small radiator, especially a 240mm model here, though is that it can rest above the PSU cover and hard disk mount underneath, meaning that you can use a full height radiator with single row of fans and still have over 280mm of clearance for graphics cards - more than enough for most Nvidia GTX 980 Tis although you'll need to watch it if you go for anything high end from AMD. Of course, this provides plenty of room for all-in-one liquid coolers too while the PSU cover is the perfect place for a pump and reservoir.

    I would worry that if you put a double fan radiator up front, you could have space issues with certain length video cards so watch out the widths and add them up to see if they are anywhere near the length of the case.
    The shroud from what I'm seeing on that case is something you pull back but I don't know if it pulls back sufficiently. Again, something to ask corsair directly and mention the specific arctic cooler.
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  9. i have decide to get NZXT Noctis 450 White.

    i tried to find many reasons to get the corsair 400c or phanteks p400s but nazxt costs 20 euro more and adds extra 4 high flow silent fans 2 led strips on bottom and a light up logo in the psu shroud. i think i would have to pay more to get the extra missing fans from t he other 2 cases and will create more trouble for me due to makingm ultiple orders from different shops here in Greece.

    i have to contact NZXT to clarify me if the Arctic Liquid freezer 240 or the 360 can be fit in front side with push and pull. if they update me correct im ready to go :)
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  10. Sounds good, good luck. If on the off chance that 450 can't fit it (and it should be able to), try http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=736&area=en in white which is the only other white case I can think of that's a bit large for a medium tower and would likely fit it.
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  11. from your mentioned coolers i have the nzxt x62 kraken on the ryzen 5 1600x witch is set to 4ghz with a 1.375v core voltage and i am impresed with that cooler. idle i have 32-35c in gaming 50-58c. so from my end it is a big plus to nzxt really like them. as for the cases: i was always a corsair fan and my last build had a carbide 500r and this one is in a corsair obsidian 750d and i just love them both :)
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  12. Sedivy said:
    Sounds good, good luck. If on the off chance that 450 can't fit it (and it should be able to), try http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=736&area=en in white which is the only other white case I can think of that's a bit large for a medium tower and would likely fit it.


    WOW Sedivy...... this case from Silverstone is a game changer WOW....... why you did this now...... made my desicion more complicated......... i have one more to consider now...... lol... its a bit cheaper than NZXT Noctis 450 (by 20 euros)
    offers same amount of fans but Primera has Led Fans (im not looking at the RGB Version, it costs 180 euro, 60 euro more expensive than standard)

    Now what.........im more confused....... 2 Amazing cases nearly similar in terms of functions and so lost i am ..........
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  13. Primera is 180? That's too much. It goes for about 120-130 canadian, so much cheaper. It is on a pricey end here as well but it has 4x140mm fans included, a fan hub, and rgb, which is part of why it's so pricey. On the one hand, if you're putting in front mounted cooler, you're taking out 2 of those 140mm fans out. Though you can mount them then up top so you have 3 in and 3 out, you could also go with 3 in, 2 out and be ok which leaves extra fan in the price, that you're not effectively using.
    It might be that with the nzxt450, you get fewer fans, and so have lower price for same performance, since you're not taking any fans out.
    It was just an option to consider, in the end, sit down and calculate how many fans you want/need with your cooler included and figure out which case is most cost efficient. They are all looking good.
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  14. Sedivy said:
    Primera is 180? That's too much. It goes for about 120-130 canadian, so much cheaper. It is on a pricey end here as well but it has 4x140mm fans included, a fan hub, and rgb, which is part of why it's so pricey. On the one hand, if you're putting in front mounted cooler, you're taking out 2 of those 140mm fans out. Though you can mount them then up top so you have 3 in and 3 out, you could also go with 3 in, 2 out and be ok which leaves extra fan in the price, that you're not effectively using.
    It might be that with the nzxt450, you get fewer fans, and so have lower price for same performance, since you're not taking any fans out.
    It was just an option to consider, in the end, sit down and calculate how many fans you want/need with your cooler included and figure out which case is most cost efficient. They are all looking good.


    i cant stop reading about the Primera to be honest, it is a very good looking case in my eyes but there is a major problem that i saw in all the reviews, in the top side you cant place anything unless you do some holes in the steel cuz it allows you to place fans or radiators but they forgot or i dont know why they didnt add holes so you could pass the cables bellow to connect them, so its pointless for me..... non in the all these reviews added anything in top cuz they must heavily mod the case. sad life.

    i must settle with Noctis 450 from NZXT, Noctis also has 2 years warrante instead of 1 from Silverstone. Sad life cuz this Primera looks really awesome with all these Led fans and the led strips... sad , sad, sad.

    Thanks though for the precious replies and advices they did help a lot, its just nothing is perfect after all, i must settle with what is best bang for bucks and Noctis 450 for me looks best value for money right now.
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  15. NZXT Noctis 450 also comes with 4 fans included, same as Primera, but on Primera they are Led fans instead.
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  16. The primera I linked is a second generation version of the case that has that issue fixed. You can tell by the slightly different looking front fans (this is first gen http://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=669) Also, you can mount fans up top, no problem. The issue used to be with mounting radiator in that top plastic part and width wise, you had to dremel into the plastic a bit to squeeze the radiator in near the narrow end. That is the fixed part, but also you mentioned that you wouldn't be mounting the radiator up top anyway. I wouldn't have recommended it otherwise, don't worry.
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  17. Sedivy said:
    The primera I linked is a second generation version of the case that has that issue fixed. You can tell by the slightly different looking front fans (this is first gen http://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=669) Also, you can mount fans up top, no problem. The issue used to be with mounting radiator in that top plastic part and width wise, you had to dremel into the plastic a bit to squeeze the radiator in near the narrow end. That is the fixed part, but also you mentioned that you wouldn't be mounting the radiator up top anyway. I wouldn't have recommended it otherwise, don't worry.


    Only 1 shop has in Greece has this updated case and it costs 190 euros. more than 200 dollars.

    I cant justify the 60 euros higher im going to pay for 1 year less warrante and fancier led effects.

    I can pay a couple euros more to add some Led strips for NZXT Noctis and will cost me way less. i will have to give it a rest cuz the more i dig it the more i get confused :D .

    i appreciate all the help and advices you gave but Greece unfortunately is limited in supplies when it comes to tech and new products, we need maybe 1 year++ for newly released items to come in our market and or sometimes they never come due to low popularity.
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  18. No, absolutely, go with whatever you can get locally and what is most cost effective. I was just going for more options. Under no circumstances pay extra 60 euros just for a fancy led strip cause that's a ripoff.
    I ended up going with a case that similarly had most features that I wanted, but more importantly, was fitting the price I wanted at the same time.
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