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It's time to upgrade from a LGA1366 systeem. But to what?

Hello,

First off... I'm new here and my mother did a good job raising me well, so let me introduce myself.
My name is Robert and I live in Amsterdam so please be gentle if my grammar is not perfect. ;-)
I recently picked up my computer hobby and found a lot of usefull info on this forum.

My system now is probably 10 years old with a few recent hobby updates like new RAM and a cooler to clock a little for the first time. And I think I did a decent job. no bsod at all!
It took a while but I have patience so I screw up the BLCK with steps of 50 to get max performance at lowest vcore. Ran prime95 loops like crazy! lol

Asus P6T SE mobo
i7 920 D0 @ 3.8Ghz stable on 1.189-1.206 (LLC) vcore on air (thank you TomHardware people!)
Cooler master 212 EVO
3 x 4GB 1800 triple channel
Geforce 210 (My old "good" card died and I just wanted to watch movies @1080p back in the days)
Samsung HD103UJ 1TB ATA device
Cooler Master RS-520-ASAA-A1

So what do I want with a new system...

A: Have a very good 4K mediastation for my LG OLED65C7V TV screen
B: Maybe play some "non PS4" games at all highest settings @1080p 60 or higher fps
C: Have better options like USB 3.0 and higher upgrade options for RAM or whatever.

Yesterday I had an option to buy a Xeon X5650 for 25,- euro (29$).
I was hoping to clock that processor @4 maybe 4.2 with my system on air. (tricky I know)
Slam a GTX 1060 6GB and hoping for no cpu bottlenecks and live for 3 more years.
But I was told to stop trying to push this very old system and that it is time to move on...
I guess he was not wrong. I mean... No usb 3.0 is bugging me and maybe a young mobo wil do things a little quicker with more options. I also have a very nice inet connection 1000down/1000up and my mobo is not the best friend with that one either.

So my question are:

- What is a good type of mobo to go with. I have around 175,- Euro (205$) maybe a little more to spend on a new mobo and processor.
- Can I stil use my 3x 4GB 1800 in triple channel these days?
- What about that HHD? It's bad isn't it? ...Can I keep it next to a 120 maybe 240GB SSD?
- Who can tell me something about that power block. Any good? Does a new system need an new one?

I don't want the new stuff because new is DEFFINITELY not better these days in computerland. I'm buying used products from trusted sellers

Im thinking about a 4, 5/6 gen system will be my best bang for bucks. With a GTX 1060 6GB im set for a while. Am I wrong? And will a system like that also hold up a GTX 1080Ti if I wanted to?
What are good processors these days. i5/i7 in that gen.

Thanks for reading and let me hear your thoughts!
Reply to CrazyNES
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  1. unfortunately u can't afford new things like Ryzen which actually really a bang in the buck, if i had the money, i would've gotten them (new is definitely better u know, lower power usage, cost friendly (comparing to what u get in the old days), faster, better support, better driver compability, etc)
    6th gen intel are still pretty pricy so ur choice is pretty much 2/3/4 gen
    for A: it won't end well, my friend had a 4k TV with an RX 480 and he keeps whining about how laggy it is in the desktop (since inside games he doesn't use 4k res, he doesn't complain bout it)
    for B: RX 580 / GTX 1060 is the way to go for that kind of settings u want
    for C: u gonna need newer mobo for that

    ur RAM possibility of usage depends on its type of DDR, most system today uses DDR4, while the old system like mine (a 2nd gen i5) uses DDR3
    can't say anything about the HDD, but if it has low RPM, it will be slower during loadings
    PSU depends on the kind of system u use, a good 550w 80+ bronze / gold can even handle a 1080ti build
    Reply to constantine_99
  2. constantine_99 said:
    unfortunately u can't afford new things like Ryzen which actually really a bang in the buck, if i had the money, i would've gotten them (new is definitely better u know, lower power usage, cost friendly (comparing to what u get in the old days), faster, better support, better driver compability, etc)
    6th gen intel are still pretty pricy so ur choice is pretty much 2/3/4 gen
    for A: it won't end well, my friend had a 4k TV with an RX 480 and he keeps whining about how laggy it is in the desktop (since inside games he doesn't use 4k res, he doesn't complain bout it)
    for B: RX 580 / GTX 1060 is the way to go for that kind of settings u want
    for C: u gonna need newer mobo for that

    ur RAM possibility of usage depends on its type of DDR, most system today uses DDR4, while the old system like mine (a 2nd gen i5) uses DDR3
    can't say anything about the HDD, but if it has low RPM, it will be slower during loadings
    PSU depends on the kind of system u use, a good 550w 80+ bronze / gold can even handle a 1080ti build


    Thanks for the answer but you might be off on some things. I will take a look at Ryzen because I have always been on team intel. ...Maybe get a little booty from the girl next door can be fun.

    For example...
    A z170 board can be found round 100 eu (120$) and a i5 skylake 6400 for 70 eu (82$) That is big upgrade to modern day systems. with the latest bios you can have a kabylake on that mobo. Thats is the roof anno 2017.
    This will be a major improvement for me. maybe to much for what I need.

    Maybe this processor will have some struggle with PlayersUnknown Battlgeground. But who doesn't at the moment.

    Again... The new chips aren't always better (in need). the differences are to little. Mostly powersaving etc. I can pay my bills so I don't look for power savings.

    About those 4K lags on TV screens... 4K is not equal 4K experience. The display-computer will have a big role in this. I don't know what 4K TV screen your friend has but older models perform badly yes indeed. Also the RX480 has a lot of problems with 4K playback @ 60Hz. You can read all about it on inet. Than again...There is a difference in 4K video playback and gaming 4K on a 4K TV. 4K movie playback is not even a problem with my old i7 920 processor. It's my GPU and lack of HDMI 2.0 that is holding me back. right now.

    Can you tell me if I upgrade to USB 3.0 on a new mobo, my USB ports on my old Cooler Master case will be 3.0 als wel or will I need a adapter in the fronpanel to get easy acces to 3.0?

    Again. thanks for the respond.

    Cheers
    Reply to CrazyNES
  3. Best answer
    CrazyNES said:
    Hello,

    First off... I'm new here and my mother did a good job raising me well, so let me introduce myself.
    My name is Robert and I live in Amsterdam so please be gentle if my grammar is not perfect. ;-)
    I recently picked up my computer hobby and found a lot of usefull info on this forum.

    My system now is probably 10 years old with a few recent hobby updates like new RAM and a cooler to clock a little for the first time. And I think I did a decent job. no bsod at all!
    It took a while but I have patience so I screw up the BLCK with steps of 50 to get max performance at lowest vcore. Ran prime95 loops like crazy! lol

    Asus P6T SE mobo
    i7 920 D0 @ 3.8Ghz stable on 1.189-1.206 (LLC) vcore on air (thank you TomHardware people!)
    Cooler master 212 EVO
    3 x 4GB 1800 triple channel
    Geforce 210 (My old "good" card died and I just wanted to watch movies @1080p back in the days)
    Samsung HD103UJ 1TB ATA device
    Cooler Master RS-520-ASAA-A1

    So what do I want with a new system...

    A: Have a very good 4K mediastation for my LG OLED65C7V TV screen
    B: Maybe play some "non PS4" games at all highest settings @1080p 60 or higher fps
    C: Have better options like USB 3.0 and higher upgrade options for RAM or whatever.

    Yesterday I had an option to buy a Xeon X5650 for 25,- euro (29$).
    I was hoping to clock that processor @4 maybe 4.2 with my system on air. (tricky I know)
    Slam a GTX 1060 6GB and hoping for no cpu bottlenecks and live for 3 more years.
    But I was told to stop trying to push this very old system and that it is time to move on...
    I guess he was not wrong. I mean... No usb 3.0 is bugging me and maybe a young mobo wil do things a little quicker with more options. I also have a very nice inet connection 1000down/1000up and my mobo is not the best friend with that one either.

    So my question are:

    - What is a good type of mobo to go with. I have around 175,- Euro (205$) maybe a little more to spend on a new mobo and processor.
    - Can I stil use my 3x 4GB 1800 in triple channel these days?
    - What about that HHD? It's bad isn't it? ...Can I keep it next to a 120 maybe 240GB SSD?
    - Who can tell me something about that power block. Any good? Does a new system need an new one?

    I don't want the new stuff because new is DEFFINITELY not better these days in computerland. I'm buying used products from trusted sellers

    Im thinking about a 4, 5/6 gen system will be my best bang for bucks. With a GTX 1060 6GB im set for a while. Am I wrong? And will a system like that also hold up a GTX 1080Ti if I wanted to?
    What are good processors these days. i5/i7 in that gen.

    Thanks for reading and let me hear your thoughts!




    Get yourself the x5650. Than a 240gb ssd where you put windows on it + your programs.
    Then get at max a 1060 as the x5650 even oc'ed to 4 ghz will hold it back in cpu intensive games.

    This is the best bang for the buck atm for you.

    I personally have a i7 920 (now x5650 at 4.5 ghz) render slave/backup system with a gtx 780 in it and it still chuggs alone nicely. Obviously it's no longer that great but it still has enough power to run the latest games decently.

    Since yours is still operating you can just go the upgrade route and then save up for a new system with ryzen or the new coffee lake in it since we are at a time where quad core cpu's are going to be replaced by a 6 core for gaming and such.
    Reply to jaslion
  4. CrazyNES said:
    constantine_99 said:
    unfortunately u can't afford new things like Ryzen which actually really a bang in the buck, if i had the money, i would've gotten them (new is definitely better u know, lower power usage, cost friendly (comparing to what u get in the old days), faster, better support, better driver compability, etc)
    6th gen intel are still pretty pricy so ur choice is pretty much 2/3/4 gen
    for A: it won't end well, my friend had a 4k TV with an RX 480 and he keeps whining about how laggy it is in the desktop (since inside games he doesn't use 4k res, he doesn't complain bout it)
    for B: RX 580 / GTX 1060 is the way to go for that kind of settings u want
    for C: u gonna need newer mobo for that

    ur RAM possibility of usage depends on its type of DDR, most system today uses DDR4, while the old system like mine (a 2nd gen i5) uses DDR3
    can't say anything about the HDD, but if it has low RPM, it will be slower during loadings
    PSU depends on the kind of system u use, a good 550w 80+ bronze / gold can even handle a 1080ti build


    Thanks for the answer but you might be off on some things. I will take a look at Ryzen because I have always been on team intel. ...Maybe get a little booty from the girl next door can be fun.

    For example...
    A z170 board can be found round 100 eu (120$) and a i5 skylake 6400 for 70 eu (82$) That is big upgrade to modern day systems. with the latest bios you can have a kabylake on that mobo. Thats is the roof anno 2017.
    This will be a major improvement for me. maybe to much for what I need.

    Maybe this processor will have some struggle with PlayersUnknown Battlgeground. But who doesn't at the moment.

    Again... The new chips aren't always better (in need). the differences are to little. Mostly powersaving etc. I can pay my bills so I don't look for power savings.

    About those 4K lags on TV screens... 4K is not equal 4K experience. The display-computer will have a big role in this. I don't know what 4K TV screen your friend has but older models perform badly yes indeed. Also the RX480 has a lot of problems with 4K playback @ 60Hz. You can read all about it on inet. Than again...There is a difference in 4K video playback and gaming 4K on a 4K TV. 4K movie playback is not even a problem with my old i7 920 processor. It's my GPU and lack of HDMI 2.0 that is holding me back. right now.

    Can you tell me if I upgrade to USB 3.0 on a new mobo, my USB ports on my old Cooler Master case will be 3.0 als wel or will I need a adapter in the fronpanel to get easy acces to 3.0?

    Again. thanks for the respond.

    Cheers




    ah i see, thanks for helping me expanding my sight and knowledge :D
    well yes, except the front port i think, coz it depends on the case itself, most back ports came from the mobo
    CPU aren't only getting better on power usage, RAM compability also affected [my i5 2400 can only utilize up to 1333mhz while the i5 3570 can utilize up to 1600mhz], along with the extra core speed, improvement over the temps too [max temps before CPU starts to throttle]
    i personally rather go with the ryzen instead of getting a 6th gen intel like that, since it would last much longer + im getting new things which means i will have warranty too (that i5 6400 can be be easily defeated by the r5 1400 [the cheapest ryzen 5, comes with 4c/8t])
    if u said that u can get the mobo + intel for about 200$ like that, it's a good thing, but, well this varies in each country, at my place, here, hardware priced so damn high, even a 3rd gen i5 can cost about 90$ (i convert it from my currency) so that why i rather suggest u go with new things, coz from my experience (i just bought a i5 2400 bout 60$ [the difference gap at each gen should give u the big picture on how my country's online market sucks so much] but it's meant for placeholder till i can save enough money for ryzen, since i don't want my 1050ti to be bottlenecked and lost almost 50% of it's performance bcz of my pentium G850)
    Reply to constantine_99
  5. CrazyNES said:
    Hello,

    First off... I'm new here and my mother did a good job raising me well, so let me introduce myself.
    My name is Robert and I live in Amsterdam so please be gentle if my grammar is not perfect. ;-)
    I recently picked up my computer hobby and found a lot of usefull info on this forum.

    My system now is probably 10 years old with a few recent hobby updates like new RAM and a cooler to clock a little for the first time. And I think I did a decent job. no bsod at all!
    It took a while but I have patience so I screw up the BLCK with steps of 50 to get max performance at lowest vcore. Ran prime95 loops like crazy! lol

    Asus P6T SE mobo
    i7 920 D0 @ 3.8Ghz stable on 1.189-1.206 (LLC) vcore on air (thank you TomHardware people!)
    Cooler master 212 EVO
    3 x 4GB 1800 triple channel
    Geforce 210 (My old "good" card died and I just wanted to watch movies @1080p back in the days)
    Samsung HD103UJ 1TB ATA device
    Cooler Master RS-520-ASAA-A1

    So what do I want with a new system...

    A: Have a very good 4K mediastation for my LG OLED65C7V TV screen
    B: Maybe play some "non PS4" games at all highest settings @1080p 60 or higher fps
    C: Have better options like USB 3.0 and higher upgrade options for RAM or whatever.

    Yesterday I had an option to buy a Xeon X5650 for 25,- euro (29$).
    I was hoping to clock that processor @4 maybe 4.2 with my system on air. (tricky I know)
    Slam a GTX 1060 6GB and hoping for no cpu bottlenecks and live for 3 more years.
    But I was told to stop trying to push this very old system and that it is time to move on...
    I guess he was not wrong. I mean... No usb 3.0 is bugging me and maybe a young mobo wil do things a little quicker with more options. I also have a very nice inet connection 1000down/1000up and my mobo is not the best friend with that one either.

    So my question are:

    - What is a good type of mobo to go with. I have around 175,- Euro (205$) maybe a little more to spend on a new mobo and processor.
    - Can I stil use my 3x 4GB 1800 in triple channel these days?
    - What about that HHD? It's bad isn't it? ...Can I keep it next to a 120 maybe 240GB SSD?
    - Who can tell me something about that power block. Any good? Does a new system need an new one?

    I don't want the new stuff because new is DEFFINITELY not better these days in computerland. I'm buying used products from trusted sellers

    Im thinking about a 4, 5/6 gen system will be my best bang for bucks. With a GTX 1060 6GB im set for a while. Am I wrong? And will a system like that also hold up a GTX 1080Ti if I wanted to?
    What are good processors these days. i5/i7 in that gen.

    Thanks for reading and let me hear your thoughts!


    Hey Man,

    I recently upgraded my set up from a Intel core I7 4790k and GTX 770 to a 7700K and 1070.While i really do recommend the newer stuff, my old set up was pretty strong. The GTX 1060 is a great replacement for the 770, however the 4790k is still a great processor, i really recommend you getting that if you can find it for a good price.
    Reply to mrjack2207


  6. Get yourself the x5650. Than a 240gb ssd where you put windows on it + your programs.
    Then get at max a 1060 as the x5650 even oc'ed to 4 ghz will hold it back in cpu intensive games.

    This is the best bang for the buck atm for you.

    I personally have a i7 920 (now x5650 at 4.5 ghz) render slave/backup system with a gtx 780 in it and it still chuggs alone nicely. Obviously it's no longer that great but it still has enough power to run the latest games decently.

    Since yours is still operating you can just go the upgrade route and then save up for a new system with ryzen or the new coffee lake in it since we are at a time where quad core cpu's are going to be replaced by a 6 core for gaming and such.

    Damn you Jaslion,

    You make my want to do that again and it feels so good to do aaaaarghhh.
    No seriously you have a good point.
    Buying a SSD + 20 dollar processor is a very good way of spending my money instead of buying a new mobo and more expensive processor. I guess I could live on for a while without USB 3.0.

    But Im not convinced I will get it over 4Ghz on air. Investing in a watercooler or better air is not what I want. Than a new board with a better stock processor would be more bangs...We like to keep our bangs for the fewest bucks. lol
    I have missed a deal on a x5670 for 35 euro (40$). Could I be more safe with one of those rather than a x5650 with overclocking on air?
    Reply to CrazyNES


  7. Get yourself the x5650. Than a 240gb ssd where you put windows on it + your programs.
    Then get at max a 1060 as the x5650 even oc'ed to 4 ghz will hold it back in cpu intensive games.

    This is the best bang for the buck atm for you.

    I personally have a i7 920 (now x5650 at 4.5 ghz) render slave/backup system with a gtx 780 in it and it still chuggs alone nicely. Obviously it's no longer that great but it still has enough power to run the latest games decently.

    Since yours is still operating you can just go the upgrade route and then save up for a new system with ryzen or the new coffee lake in it since we are at a time where quad core cpu's are going to be replaced by a 6 core for gaming and such.

    Damn you Jaslion,

    You make my want to do that again and it feels so good to do aaaaarghhh.
    No seriously you have a good point.
    Buying a SSD + 20 dollar processor is a very good way of spending my money instead of buying a new mobo and more expensive processor. I guess I could live on for a while without USB 3.0.

    But Im not convinced I will get it over 4Ghz on air. Investing in a watercooler or better air is not what I want. Than a new board with a better stock processor would be more bangs...We like to keep our bangs for the fewest bucks. lol
    I have missed a deal on a x5670 for 35 euro (40$). Could I be more safe with one of those rather than a x5650 with overclocking on air?

    Buy a hyper 212 evo cooler !, dead cheap and very good !
    Reply to mrjack2207
  8. jaslion said:
    CrazyNES said:
    Hello,




    ah i see, thanks for helping me expanding my sight and knowledge :D
    well yes, except the front port i think, coz it depends on the case itself, most back ports came from the mobo
    CPU aren't only getting better on power usage, RAM compability also affected [my i5 2400 can only utilize up to 1333mhz while the i5 3570 can utilize up to 1600mhz], along with the extra core speed, improvement over the temps too [max temps before CPU starts to throttle]
    i personally rather go with the ryzen instead of getting a 6th gen intel like that, since it would last much longer + im getting new things which means i will have warranty too (that i5 6400 can be be easily defeated by the r5 1400 [the cheapest ryzen 5, comes with 4c/8t])
    if u said that u can get the mobo + intel for about 200$ like that, it's a good thing, but, well this varies in each country, at my place, here, hardware priced so damn high, even a 3rd gen i5 can cost about 90$ (i convert it from my currency) so that why i rather suggest u go with new things, coz from my experience (i just bought a i5 2400 bout 60$ [the difference gap at each gen should give u the big picture on how my country's online market sucks so much] but it's meant for placeholder till i can save enough money for ryzen, since i don't want my 1050ti to be bottlenecked and lost almost 50% of it's performance bcz of my pentium G850)


    Hello again and no problem you are welcome. Here's another tip. Don't always believe manufacture specs on RAM types and stuff. Google or ask around.
    My old LGA1366 board 10 years old could only 1333 max. ...Well why is my 12 GB triple channel running on 2100 sexy as hell ;-) lol.
    3 x 4GB 1800 are the modules but also those you can OC.
    Always remember. Manufacture play 110% safe if you know what I mean and they als want to make money and use marketing for it to achieve that. Just as Ads can be profit also reduce some performance in products to sell a little cheaper can do that.
    Reply to CrazyNES
  9. CrazyNES said:
    jaslion said:
    CrazyNES said:
    Hello,




    ah i see, thanks for helping me expanding my sight and knowledge :D
    well yes, except the front port i think, coz it depends on the case itself, most back ports came from the mobo
    CPU aren't only getting better on power usage, RAM compability also affected [my i5 2400 can only utilize up to 1333mhz while the i5 3570 can utilize up to 1600mhz], along with the extra core speed, improvement over the temps too [max temps before CPU starts to throttle]
    i personally rather go with the ryzen instead of getting a 6th gen intel like that, since it would last much longer + im getting new things which means i will have warranty too (that i5 6400 can be be easily defeated by the r5 1400 [the cheapest ryzen 5, comes with 4c/8t])
    if u said that u can get the mobo + intel for about 200$ like that, it's a good thing, but, well this varies in each country, at my place, here, hardware priced so damn high, even a 3rd gen i5 can cost about 90$ (i convert it from my currency) so that why i rather suggest u go with new things, coz from my experience (i just bought a i5 2400 bout 60$ [the difference gap at each gen should give u the big picture on how my country's online market sucks so much] but it's meant for placeholder till i can save enough money for ryzen, since i don't want my 1050ti to be bottlenecked and lost almost 50% of it's performance bcz of my pentium G850)


    Hello again and no problem you are welcome. Here's another tip. Don't always believe manufacture specs on RAM types and stuff. Google or ask around.
    My old LGA1366 board 10 years old could only 1333 max. ...Well why is my 12 GB triple channel running on 2100 sexy as hell ;-) lol.
    3 x 4GB 1800 are the modules but also those you can OC.
    Always remember. Manufacture play 110% safe if you know what I mean and they als want to make money and use marketing for it to achieve that. Just as Ads can be profit also reduce some performance in products to sell a little cheaper can do that.



    oh nice stuff there :o
    must be real nice to be able to OC that much :o my RAM runs at 667 mhz
    im pretty much stuck with this old man till i can afford the ryzen :o
    Reply to constantine_99
  10. mrjack2207 said:



    Buy a hyper 212 evo cooler !, dead cheap and very good !



    I have bought that cooler to play with my i7 920 in OC allready... So what should I do x5650 (29$) or x5670 (40$)?
    Reply to CrazyNES


  11. Get yourself the x5650. Than a 240gb ssd where you put windows on it + your programs.
    Then get at max a 1060 as the x5650 even oc'ed to 4 ghz will hold it back in cpu intensive games.

    This is the best bang for the buck atm for you.

    I personally have a i7 920 (now x5650 at 4.5 ghz) render slave/backup system with a gtx 780 in it and it still chuggs alone nicely. Obviously it's no longer that great but it still has enough power to run the latest games decently.

    Since yours is still operating you can just go the upgrade route and then save up for a new system with ryzen or the new coffee lake in it since we are at a time where quad core cpu's are going to be replaced by a 6 core for gaming and such.

    Damn you Jaslion,

    You make my want to do that again and it feels so good to do aaaaarghhh.
    No seriously you have a good point.
    Buying a SSD + 20 dollar processor is a very good way of spending my money instead of buying a new mobo and more expensive processor. I guess I could live on for a while without USB 3.0.

    But Im not convinced I will get it over 4Ghz on air. Investing in a watercooler or better air is not what I want. Than a new board with a better stock processor would be more bangs...We like to keep our bangs for the fewest bucks. lol
    I have missed a deal on a x5670 for 35 euro (40$). Could I be more safe with one of those rather than a x5650 with overclocking on air?



    Mine is running on a hyper 212x atm and doing just fine. Sure it's not as cool as people using a water cooler but it doesn't reach shutdown temps and runs perfectly fine rendering my stuff all day every day.
    Reply to jaslion
  12. Thanks for all the answers guys!

    I just bought myself a x5650 and a Samsung 256GB SSD for 80,- Euro (94$/72GBP).
    I will be installing it first thing in the morning.
    Again... Thank you.

    Cheers
    Reply to CrazyNES
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