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Will a ryzen 5 1600 bottlneck with a 1080ti

Will a ryzen 5 1600 bottlneck with a 1080ti At 1080p resolution at max details?
If so,suggest me a 200-250 dollar cpu that wont
Thanks
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  1. No it will not.
    The monitor will bottleneck it though.
    What's the budget for your system including monitor?
    I'll sort you out.
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  2. It most probably will bottleneck (if VSync is off, that is). This is not because the CPU is too weak for 1080p (it's perfectly fine for it, really), but because your GPU is very overpowered for this resolution.

    At least get a 1440p monitor for a 1080 Ti.
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  3. 1080Ti is overkill for 1080p to start with. Either increase the resolution to reduce bottleneck on CPU part, or get a cheaper GPU for 1080p. No matter the CPU you get, it will bottleneck @1080p with that card. Performance will be great, though.
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  4. Chugalug_ said:
    No it will not.
    The monitor will bottleneck it though.
    What's the budget for your system including monitor?
    I'll sort you out.


    i already have a system and a 1920x1080 144hz monitor do im not planning to upgrade.I want to get 144+ fps to get the full potential of my monitor.
    i have made a system right here:
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GtsyzM
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  5. herrwizo said:
    1080Ti is overkill for 1080p to start with. Either increase the resolution to reduce bottleneck on CPU part, or get a cheaper GPU for 1080p. No matter the CPU you get, it will bottleneck @1080p with that card. Performance will be great, though.


    i already have a system and a 1920x1080 144hz monitor do im not planning to upgrade.I want to get 144+ fps to get the full potential of my monitor.
    i have made a system right here:
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GtsyzM
    Reply to alihamad2003
  6. ZRace said:
    It most probably will bottleneck (if VSync is off, that is). This is not because the CPU is too weak for 1080p (it's perfectly fine for it, really), but because your GPU is very overpowered for this resolution.

    At least get a 1440p monitor for a 1080 Ti.


    i already have a system and a 1920x1080 144hz monitor do im not planning to upgrade.I want to get 144+ fps to get the full potential of my monitor.
    i have made a system right here:
    https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GtsyzM
    Reply to alihamad2003
  7. .........
    What?
    Tell me straight, what parts do you already have?
    What is your budget for an upgrade?
    What is your CURRENT monitor?
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  8. Chugalug_ said:
    .........
    What?
    Tell me straight, what parts do you already have?
    What is your budget for an upgrade?
    What is your CURRENT monitor?


    msi gtx 750ti
    8 gb of ram
    m5a97 evo r 2.0 motherboard
    1tb hdd
    amd fx 6300

    i built this about 2 years ago

    my current monitor is the benQ xl2411z

    1000-1300$ budget

    you said the cpu wont bottneck?
    then watch this:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qWjuVYg3Yo&t=16s
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  9. Completely new build.
    A 1080 Ti will be fine maxed with your current monitor.
    Stick with the RGB RAM if you want, but it's not a good use of money.
    Sell your old PC for $250, carry over the HDD.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.49 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($165.89 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($719.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1293.35
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 07:48 EDT-0400
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  10. yes , ryzen 5 is another name for i5
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  11. If you want 144fps, then the 7700k is the way to go.
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  12. Better value list.
    Note that you will also need a fresh windows license with a new motherboard if you bought an OEM install two years ago.
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.49 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($126.88 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($719.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1232.34
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 07:50 EDT-0400
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  13. Chugalug_ said:
    Better value list.
    Note that you will also need a fresh windows license with a new motherboard if you bought an OEM install two years ago.
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.49 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($126.88 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($719.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($37.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1232.34
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 07:50 EDT-0400


    are you sure 550watt is enough?
    because im planning to overlclock
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  14. Yes, its heaps, even with a heavy OC.
    For the CPU, try just below 1.4v, and 3.8GHz (38 multiplier).
    Reply to Chugalug_
  15. Chugalug_ said:
    Yes, its heaps, even with a heavy OC.
    For the CPU, try just below 1.4v, and 3.8GHz (38 multiplier).


    are you sure about the ryzen 7 1700?
    im not really sticking with amd i mean i dont really care which one i choose.The only thing i care is about the performance.
    I mean,if lets suppose that the 6700K is in this build and will it be better in performance and future games?
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  16. Every CPU in the 200-250$ price bracket will bottleneck your 1080Ti @ 1080p.
    If you want to eliminate it completely i would say you would need a i7 7700K. A i5 7600K would do you fine too though.
    If you want to stick with Ryzen i would recommend a 1600X at least, and it is critical that you get your memory to run at its rated timing of 3000MHz, which may require some manual tuning.
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  17. Yes i'm sure, it's a far better choice, and will perform much better overall, last longer and perform identically to the 7700k in gaming.
    In the future, thread utilization for CPUs in games will rise, meaning more cores will be fully and properly used.
    The 7700k has 4 physical cores with hyperthreading, a total of 8 threads.
    The Ryzen 1700 has 8 physical cores with AMD's version of hyperthreading, a total of 16 threads.
    They perform identically in gaming now above 1080p, but there's no doubt in my mind that Ryzen's gaming performance will increase dramatically over time.
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  18. Although I would also recommend Ryzen, for 1080p 144hz gaming the 7700k is king - Ryzen cpus simply dont have fast enough single thread performance for 144fps in many games at 1080p.
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  19. If you're at 1080p 144hz the 7700k shouldn't even be a consideration, it's a high end chip.
    Short term, yes it will perform better than Ryzen at 1080p.
    Long term when you move onto higher resolutions?
    The 1700 performs identically above 1080p to the 7700k give or take a few frames either way, and with higher thread utilization coming into play with newer engines and DX12, it seems silly to invest MORE into a CPU that while temporarily may give you better performance, will fall behind in future.

    I forgot to add this at the start, but @OP's budget isn't really suitable for either a 7700k or a 1700 anyway, so I think its more a question of will the 1600 work, since it is still a very highly capable CPU, and can easily be OC'd well.
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  20. Chugalug_ said:
    Yes i'm sure, it's a far better choice, and will perform much better overall, last longer and perform identically to the 7700k in gaming.
    In the future, thread utilization for CPUs in games will rise, meaning more cores will be fully and properly used.
    The 7700k has 4 physical cores with hyperthreading, a total of 8 threads.
    The Ryzen 1700 has 8 physical cores with AMD's version of hyperthreading, a total of 16 threads.
    They perform identically in gaming now above 1080p, but there's no doubt in my mind that Ryzen's gaming performance will increase dramatically over time.


    what do you mean that ryzens cpu's gaming performance will increase so should i wait for newer ryzen or amd in general cpu's? btw 1080p gaming at 144hz the 7700k is much better but will the ryzen 1700 be better at future games at 1080p 144hz?
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  21. Best answer
    That's a maybe on that last part, but it will long term be far better, and a much more suitable option given that with a 1080 Ti you should be aiming to go to 4k 60Hz or 1440p 144hz later when you can afford the upgrade anyway.
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  22. alihamad2003 said:
    Chugalug_ said:
    Yes i'm sure, it's a far better choice, and will perform much better overall, last longer and perform identically to the 7700k in gaming.
    In the future, thread utilization for CPUs in games will rise, meaning more cores will be fully and properly used.
    The 7700k has 4 physical cores with hyperthreading, a total of 8 threads.
    The Ryzen 1700 has 8 physical cores with AMD's version of hyperthreading, a total of 16 threads.
    They perform identically in gaming now above 1080p, but there's no doubt in my mind that Ryzen's gaming performance will increase dramatically over time.


    what do you mean that ryzens cpu's gaming performance will increase so should i wait for newer ryzen or amd in general cpu's? btw 1080p gaming at 144hz the 7700k is much better but will the ryzen 1700 be better at future games at 1080p 144hz?



    they DO NOT have equal performance in gaming

    for 1080p 144hz its not even a choice, i7 7700k


    for YEARS people have predicted the multi core kingdom XD
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  23. @Maxalge, its moved from an i5 to multicore in the past two years, now with more competition and newer engines/DX12 thread utilization is going to be big. Multi-core utilization has only really started in around 2015, and even now there's a reason nobody recommends i5s anymore. At 1080p the 7700k does win, but i'm saying for a start it isn't in the price range, and the 1600 would be more suitable and better value over an i5 here.
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  24. But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.
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  25. Chugalug_ said:
    That's a maybe on that last part, but it will long term be far better, and a much more suitable option given that with a 1080 Ti you should be aiming to go to 4k 60Hz or 1440p 144hz later when you can afford the upgrade anyway.


    ok thanks!
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  26. RobCrezz said:
    But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.


    yeah for now,but im looking towards the future.Thanks anyways!!!!
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  27. The guy has a 144hz 1080p monitor, dont you think he might be disapointed that the Ryzen 1600 isnt fast enough to give him 144fps in many games, even though his 1080 ti is fast enough? To me that is called a bottleneck.
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  28. Chugalug_ said:
    If you're at 1080p 144hz the 7700k shouldn't even be a consideration, it's a high end chip.
    Short term, yes it will perform better than Ryzen at 1080p.
    Long term when you move onto higher resolutions?
    The 1700 performs identically above 1080p to the 7700k give or take a few frames either way, and with higher thread utilization coming into play with newer engines and DX12, it seems silly to invest MORE into a CPU that while temporarily may give you better performance, will fall behind in future.

    I forgot to add this at the start, but @OP's budget isn't really suitable for either a 7700k or a 1700 anyway, so I think its more a question of will the 1600 work, since it is still a very highly capable CPU, and can easily be OC'd well.


    The point is, if you want to squeeze out every frame possible from that 1080Ti, you need a high end cpu, period.
    I agree that Ryzen is more future proof, but it will depend heavily on the rate of adaptation and (very important) quality of implementation of vulkan/dx12 in future games.
    So much depends on the developer now, you can see already that publishers push developers to cut corners to save money and make release targets, don't you think a good multithreading implementation won't be among the first things to get the axe even in the future?

    That said, I can attest to most of my games having a significantly better minimum framerate and frametime variance since upgrading to ryzen 7 from i7 3770k.
    So max and average framerate aren't much better, but there are less "hiccups" and gameplay feels a lot smoother overall.

    edit: (monitor is 2560x1080p @ 144Hz)
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  29. RobCrezz said:
    But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.


    What's the deal with everyone saying Ryzen can't do high fps gaming?
    I don't get what frame rate has to do with it, it's not like as the FPS count gets higher it gets harder to render frames, and clock speed can easily be OC'd to higher levels.

    Edit: We run a Ryzen and Intel test system at the store for testing hardware etc. and both put out practically identical numbers in games at 1440p and 4k, in the former high fps results have no issue on Ryzen, so I don't know what the problem is...
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  30. alihamad2003 said:
    RobCrezz said:
    But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.


    yeah for now,but im looking towards the future.Thanks anyways!!!!


    XD they said the same thing for the 8350...

    why would you take less performance?

    by the time the future rolls around, everything today will be obsolete XD
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  31. Chugalug_ said:
    RobCrezz said:
    But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.


    What's the deal with everyone saying Ryzen can't do high fps gaming?
    I don't get what frame rate has to do with it, it's not like as the FPS count gets higher it gets harder to render frames, and clock speed can easily be OC'd to higher levels.

    Edit: We run a Ryzen and Intel test system at the store for testing hardware etc. and both put out practically identical numbers in games at 1440p and 4k, in the former high fps results have no issue on Ryzen, so I don't know what the problem is...


    Then why are you answering the question when you don't understand?

    Sure at 4k and 1440p, the GPU becomes the bottleneck. At 1080p the CPU speed is more of a factor, and the ryzen cpus cannot work fast enough.


    As I said, I would recommend Ryzen, but not for 1080 144hz gaming.
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  32. The difference was the 8350 was a hot pile of sht with terrible IPC and performance, there was no question with multicore at that stage, quad cores were just starting to become common, that was AMD trying to sell based on specs alone more or less.
    This is a different scenario with valid, easily seen application.
    The 1600 is also fantastic for a CPU you want to keep in your system for a long time due to it's higher core count and solid IPC paired with potential for a good OC. In the price range there's no other option, that's all i'm gonna say for this thread.
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  33. RobCrezz said:
    The guy has a 144hz 1080p monitor, dont you think he might be disapointed that the Ryzen 1600 isnt fast enough to give him 144fps in many games, even though his 1080 ti is fast enough? To me that is called a bottleneck.


    Chugalug_ said:
    RobCrezz said:
    But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.


    What's the deal with everyone saying Ryzen can't do high fps gaming?
    I don't get what frame rate has to do with it, it's not like as the FPS count gets higher it gets harder to render frames, and clock speed can easily be OC'd to higher levels.

    Edit: We run a Ryzen and Intel test system at the store for testing hardware etc. and both put out practically identical numbers in games at 1440p and 4k, in the former high fps results have no issue on Ryzen, so I don't know what the problem is...


    btw i think the 1700 is the best option.I have no problem going with higher prices.
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  34. RobCrezz said:


    what about games in the future?
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  35. maxalge said:
    alihamad2003 said:
    RobCrezz said:
    But for now, the 7700k is the best CPU for high fps (120-160hz) gaming, that cannot be denied.


    yeah for now,but im looking towards the future.Thanks anyways!!!!


    XD they said the same thing for the 8350...

    why would you take less performance?

    by the time the future rolls around, everything today will be obsolete XD



    i dont get ya,whats betetr in your opinion
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  36. alihamad2003 said:
    RobCrezz said:


    what about games in the future?


    Hard to predict the future.

    Dont get me wrong, Ryzen is a great choice, especially if you go to 1440p or 4k.
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  37. RobCrezz said:
    alihamad2003 said:
    RobCrezz said:


    what about games in the future?


    Hard to predict the future.

    Dont get me wrong, Ryzen is a great choice, especially if you go to 1440p or 4k.


    i already said i have a 1080p monitor that i just bought (1 month ago)
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  38. alihamad2003 said:
    RobCrezz said:
    alihamad2003 said:
    RobCrezz said:


    what about games in the future?


    Hard to predict the future.

    Dont get me wrong, Ryzen is a great choice, especially if you go to 1440p or 4k.


    i already said i have a 1080p monitor that i just bought (1 month ago)


    I know.. hence me posting and telling you that the 7700k is the best cpu for 1080 144hz gaming right now.
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