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Mother board + CPU Combo - AMD

Hi there all,

I build my computer a couple of years ago. I use it for simulators and virtual machine. I do Android and iOS development. I have 16gb DDR3 ram. I don't do any gaming.

However I left my computer open and it got dust in it, now every day at least once it freezes up. I need to change out the mother board and cpu I think.

I have a AMD APU 7850K. I wanted to stick with AMD as I don't support Intel. I saw Ryzen is coming up but that is a $600 CPU and way overpowered for me. Is there something new from AMD I should upgrade to? Or is Ryzen really the way to go?

Edit I just am seeing the RYZEN 5 - AMD RYZEN 5 1500X 4-Core 3.5 GHz (3.7 GHz Turbo) Socket AM4 65W YD150XBBAEBOX Desktop Processor - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113436 - is this a good buy? I don't need the 16 core CPU, 6 core sounds good. I also don't need unlocked, as I never overclock. It seems a premium is paid for unlocked.


I compared my APU vs Ryzen - http://cpuboss.com/cpus/AMD-Ryzen-5-Ryzen%E2%84%A2-5-1500X-vs-AMD-A10-7850K
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    Yes, the Ryzen 5 CPUs are a good buy (coming from your APU). The Ryzen 5 1600 (6-core/12-thread) has the best price/performance among all Ryzen 5 CPUs. Note that all Ryzen CPUs as of today are unlocked - so all support overclocking (even though you can choose not to). The good thing about these unlocked CPUs (specifically the Ryzen 5 1600 and some other models( is that they have very low TDP (65W), which translates to less power consumption and heat, and it also has an included very decent (better than Intel's) stock CPU cooler.

    Ryzen is really the way to go as upgrading in the previous AM3/AM3+ and FX CPU platforms is not worth the costs (end-of-life/no upgradability/weak performance).

    As for the AM4 motherboard to pair the Ryzen 5 1600 with, the market offers 3 selections/chipsets: A320, B350, and X370. Based on your needs, you would rather select between the A320 and B350 motherboards. The X370 costs way too much for the features it offer (the main difference with the more affordable B350 is SLI support and more SATA ports).

    Between the A320 and B350 mobos, the former does not support overclocking while the latter supports overclocking. Depending on the brand/model you will select, the most expensive A320 (around ~$75) would be around the same price as a decent B350 (around ~$65 to ~$90). So, I'd recommend getting the B350 mobo for future use - as you won't be paying a hefty premium for it with the current prices.

    Going from a 7850K to a Ryzen 5 1600 will see a ~70% increase in performance: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A10-7850K-APU-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/2937vs3919

    Here's how costs would look like for this suggested build (including 16GB RAM):

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $402.96
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-23 22:17 EDT-0400
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  2. raisonjohn said:
    Yes, the Ryzen 5 CPUs are a good buy (coming from your APU). The Ryzen 5 1600 (6-core/12-thread) has the best price/performance among all Ryzen 5 CPUs. Note that all Ryzen CPUs as of today are unlocked - so all support overclocking (even though you can choose not to). The good thing about these unlocked CPUs (specifically the Ryzen 5 1600 and some other models( is that they have very low TDP (65W), which translates to less power consumption and heat, and it also has an included very decent (better than Intel's) stock CPU cooler.

    Ryzen is really the way to go as upgrading in the previous AM3/AM3+ and FX CPU platforms is not worth the costs (end-of-life/no upgradability/weak performance).

    As for the AM4 motherboard to pair the Ryzen 5 1600 with, the market offers 3 selections/chipsets: A320, B350, and X370. Based on your needs, you would rather select between the A320 and B350 motherboards. The X370 costs way too much for the features it offer (the main difference with the more affordable B350 is SLI support and more SATA ports).

    Between the A320 and B350 mobos, the former does not support overclocking while the latter supports overclocking. Depending on the brand/model you will select, the most expensive A320 (around ~$75) would be around the same price as a decent B350 (around ~$65 to ~$90). So, I'd recommend getting the B350 mobo for future use - as you won't be paying a hefty premium for it with the current prices.

    Going from a 7850K to a Ryzen 5 1600 will see a ~70% increase in performance: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-A10-7850K-APU-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/2937vs3919

    Here's how costs would look like for this suggested build (including 16GB RAM):

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($82.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $402.96
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-23 22:17 EDT-0400


    Thank you @rasionjohn for such an indepth solution!! I will make the buy right away to the 1600 instead of the 1500! :)

    Is it possible to use my DDR3 16gb ram? Or is it really recommended i move to DDR4?
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  3. Noitidart said:
    Thank you @rasionjohn for such an indepth solution!! I will make the buy right away to the 1600 instead of the 1500! :)

    Is it possible to use my DDR3 16gb ram? Or is it really recommended i move to DDR4?


    You're very welcome!

    As for the RAM, the Ryzen/AM4 mobo platform requires DDR4. You can't physically install your current DDR3 RAMs in there (and even if it could, the voltage is different). So, yeah, you need the new DDR4 sticks.

    Glad to be of help :)
    Reply to raisonjohn
  4. raisonjohn said:
    Noitidart said:
    Thank you @rasionjohn for such an indepth solution!! I will make the buy right away to the 1600 instead of the 1500! :)

    Is it possible to use my DDR3 16gb ram? Or is it really recommended i move to DDR4?


    You're very welcome!

    As for the RAM, the Ryzen/AM4 mobo platform requires DDR4. You can't physically install your current DDR3 RAMs in there (and even if it could, the voltage is different). So, yeah, you need the new DDR4 sticks.

    Glad to be of help :)


    Hi, I agree with raisonjohn here, just one comment to make. Do you have a graphics card? Because Ryzen does not have integrated graphics! If you do not have a GPU, a Rx 550 or GT 1030 would be fine for normal use (not gaming) and a Rx 560/ GTX 1050 would be fine for light gaming!
    Reply to Lehan123456789
  5. raisonjohn said:
    Noitidart said:
    Thank you @rasionjohn for such an indepth solution!! I will make the buy right away to the 1600 instead of the 1500! :)

    Is it possible to use my DDR3 16gb ram? Or is it really recommended i move to DDR4?


    You're very welcome!

    As for the RAM, the Ryzen/AM4 mobo platform requires DDR4. You can't physically install your current DDR3 RAMs in there (and even if it could, the voltage is different). So, yeah, you need the new DDR4 sticks.

    Glad to be of help :)


    Ooo, thanks sir.

    Excuse my asking such noob question after you basically fed me answer. But at the local microcenter I couldn't find the G Skill so was deciding between these two sets of RAM. They are similar, will both of them work with the Ryzen 5 and Mother Board?

    http://www.microcenter.com/product/468728/Vengeance_Series_16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3200_PC4-25600_C16_Desktop_Memory_Kit

    http://www.microcenter.com/product/461990/16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3200_PC4-25600_Desktop_Memory_Kit

    Lehan123456789 said:
    raisonjohn said:
    Noitidart said:
    Thank you @rasionjohn for such an indepth solution!! I will make the buy right away to the 1600 instead of the 1500! :)

    Is it possible to use my DDR3 16gb ram? Or is it really recommended i move to DDR4?


    You're very welcome!

    As for the RAM, the Ryzen/AM4 mobo platform requires DDR4. You can't physically install your current DDR3 RAMs in there (and even if it could, the voltage is different). So, yeah, you need the new DDR4 sticks.

    Glad to be of help :)



    Hi, I agree with raisonjohn here, just one comment to make. Do you have a graphics card? Because Ryzen does not have integrated graphics! If you do not have a GPU, a Rx 550 or GT 1030 would be fine for normal use (not gaming) and a Rx 560/ GTX 1050 would be fine for light gaming!

    Oooh, thanks for this. I actually don't do any gaming. Is a GPU still important?
    Reply to Noitidart
  6. Noitidart said:
    raisonjohn said:
    Noitidart said:
    Thank you @rasionjohn for such an indepth solution!! I will make the buy right away to the 1600 instead of the 1500! :)

    Is it possible to use my DDR3 16gb ram? Or is it really recommended i move to DDR4?


    You're very welcome!

    As for the RAM, the Ryzen/AM4 mobo platform requires DDR4. You can't physically install your current DDR3 RAMs in there (and even if it could, the voltage is different). So, yeah, you need the new DDR4 sticks.

    Glad to be of help :)


    Ooo, thanks sir.

    Excuse my asking such noob question after you basically fed me answer. But at the local microcenter I couldn't find the G Skill so was deciding between these two sets of RAM. They are similar, will both of them work with the Ryzen 5 and Mother Board?

    http://www.microcenter.com/product/468728/Vengeance_Series_16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3200_PC4-25600_C16_Desktop_Memory_Kit

    http://www.microcenter.com/product/461990/16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-3200_PC4-25600_Desktop_Memory_Kit

    Lehan123456789 said:
    raisonjohn said:
    Noitidart said:
    Thank you @rasionjohn for such an indepth solution!! I will make the buy right away to the 1600 instead of the 1500! :)

    Is it possible to use my DDR3 16gb ram? Or is it really recommended i move to DDR4?


    You're very welcome!

    As for the RAM, the Ryzen/AM4 mobo platform requires DDR4. You can't physically install your current DDR3 RAMs in there (and even if it could, the voltage is different). So, yeah, you need the new DDR4 sticks.

    Glad to be of help :)



    Hi, I agree with raisonjohn here, just one comment to make. Do you have a graphics card? Because Ryzen does not have integrated graphics! If you do not have a GPU, a Rx 550 or GT 1030 would be fine for normal use (not gaming) and a Rx 560/ GTX 1050 would be fine for light gaming!

    Oooh, thanks for this. I actually don't do any gaming. Is a GPU still important?


    Hi again,
    Both those ram kits will work with the motherboard and CPU. They are both the same speed and the only difference seems to be the led's! Also, that ram seems to be very expensive, so you may want to see if they have any cheaper kit's (it must be 2x8gb sticks of ddr4 288-pin, preferably 2666Mhz or above), as they will likely do the same job!

    Because Ryzen does not have an integrated graphics processor, you do need to have a graphics card. For a system with which you will not be gaming, you will still require a graphics card, albeit a lower end one. The AMD Rx 550 is good for accelerated processing etc. and the one I have linked is a single slot card, which is nice, but by no means necessary. The only other thing which I have forgotten to ask (though probably should have earlier) is, what is your power supply (you can send us a photo of the label).

    Graphics card: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150798

    Hopefully this answers some of your questions :)
    Reply to Lehan123456789
  7. Just one thing! You said you are using this for virtual machines? Last I heard Ryzen has a problem using virtualization. You need to look into that!

    Edit:
    I don't see compatibility listed for Ryzen CPU's!
    https://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php
    Reply to goldstone77
  8. Thanks so much guys the Rx550 notes, Ill do that.

    Thanks also so much goldstone for looking into that virutalization! I need to use Oracale Virtual Box and then Android Simulator. I really appreciate that angle from you, I will research if it is possible. :)
    Reply to Noitidart
  9. Oh my power supply is Corsair 430 CX - http://www.corsair.com/en-us/cx430-80-plus-bronze-certified-power-supply

    Wow posting here was such a huge help. Thanks all!
    Reply to Noitidart
  10. Noitidart said:
    Thanks so much guys the Rx550 notes, Ill do that.

    Thanks also so much goldstone for looking into that virutalization! I need to use Oracale Virtual Box and then Android Simulator. I really appreciate that angle from you, I will research if it is possible. :)


    One this I just realized - the GTX 1050 provides far better value and speed than the Rx 550 for only around $10 more. It is probably the better choice!
    Reply to Lehan123456789
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