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Best card @ 450 dollar to pair with 6600K for 1080p gaming

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  1. https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_580_Nitro_Plus/30.html

    GTX1070 is roughly 26% faster than an RX-580. (after overclock the GTX1070 may be closer to 30% as it should have a bit more overclock left)

    The RX-580 and GTX1060 6GB are similar performance. They trade blows. All things being equal between these I'd go with the RX-580 as it's going to age better due to the fact that the GPU is almost identical to what the XB1 and PS4 (including Scorpio and PS4 Pro) use. There's more UNTAPPED potential there which is why games like DOOM using a new API like Vulkan can leverage it.

    GTX1070 is the best card, but not necessarily the best VALUE.

    *I suggest you use NEWEGG as a guide. It's really handy (even if you don't buy there) as you can look at average out of 5, and also look at the individual scores like 1/5.

    If I see something like 15%+ that is 1/5 or 2/5 combined that talks about DOA (failing) or some other major issue I'd avoid. Conversely if the card 4/5 and 5/5 scores average over 85% that's excellent.
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  2. I mean RX-580 8GB, not 4GB. Don't get a GPU with less than 6GB of video memory (VRAM).
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  3. Thanks Photonboy for your reply,

    Very nice site you sent me .....It is just what I needed(to put cards aside each other)

    But I still have few questions ;

    1-For future proof 1080p gaming is 580 is enough and 1070 is an overkill ? or should I pick the 1070 to be in the safe side ? (I won't be able to upgrade for the next 3-5 years at least)(I won't use monitor more than FHD--no 2k or 4k)

    2-Should I wait for VEGA ? I am afraid of waiting and after that it will be over-budget(HBM2) or comes out very late .

    3-Does 580 has any problems so far ? (like 480 had)

    4-For AMD card which is better MSI or Sapphire?

    5-Does Amd close the gap between it and Nvidia in terms of heat-power consumption-Driver support and build quality ,or not ?

    I would like to buy in a month .
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    Wael Mahmoud said:
    Thanks Photonboy for your reply,

    Very nice site you sent me .....It is just what I needed(to put cards aside each other)

    But I still have few questions ;

    1-For future proof 1080p gaming is 580 is enough and 1070 is an overkill ? or should I pick the 1070 to be in the safe side ? (I won't be able to upgrade for the next 3-5 years at least)(I won't use monitor more than FHD--no 2k or 4k)

    2-Should I wait for VEGA ? I am afraid of waiting and after that it will be over-budget(HBM2) or comes out very late .

    3-Does 580 has any problems so far ? (like 480 had)

    4-For AMD card which is better MSI or Sapphire?

    5-Does Amd close the gap between it and Nvidia in terms of heat-power consumption-Driver support and build quality ,or not ?

    I would like to buy in a month .


    1. Really no such thing as "overkill" when trying to future-proof. Games will get more demanding. That doesn't mean the RX-580 won't run all games at good visual quality over the next several years, though you will have to tweak the settings to optimize FPS vs visuals for any system (even a GTX1080Ti) for demanding games.

    2. I expect VEGA to be in limited supply and way over-priced for at least two months after physical products can be purchased. And yes, HBM2 should add to the cost so I'm not expecting something of SIMILAR performance to a GTX1070 to cost the same or cheaper.

    3. No. The RX-480 issue was only the reference blower style which had a power issue (which could actually kill lower-end motherboards). That's a non-issue now, and for the reference card it was corrected in the AMD video driver.

    4. Not sure. I suggested NEWEGG as a guide to look at feedback. Quality is the main issue IMO. I like the Asus Strix cards (for all recent AMD/NVidia GPU's). MSI does make excellent cards to though there are probably CHEAPER versions that may or may not have any issues.

    5. Uh... build quality is related to the companies like Asus, Gigabyte, MSI etc. and also varies by the individual card designs. NVidia is much more power efficient (currently), though a good cooler like Asus Strix on an RX-580 can still be fairly quiet. Do remember that POWER DRAW is equivalent to heat dumped into the room so if your room gets hot avoid AMD (up to Vega).

    NVidia does tend to have better driver support IMO. AMD has closed the gap however, and later DX12/Vulkan games should be less dependent on driver optimizations.

    Other:
    Some of the Gigabyte cards are prone to bend/break as the metal shroud is far too thin.

    Personally, I would look at the GTX1070 cards, and the following link shows what I mean by looking for quality:
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126109&cm_re=gtx1070-_-14-126-109-_-Product

    Note that out of 157 people, 88% gave it a 4/5 or 5/5. There was 11% that gave 2% or lower. If you click on some OTHER products you may see 20%+ that is 2/5 or lower.

    (ignore scores that have a low number of people as that can be statistically pointless as well as it may be a new product that hasn't had a chance to show FAILURES which can be delayed)
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  5. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500400&cm_re=zotac_1070-_-14-500-400-_-Product
    vs
    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500401&cm_re=zotac_1070-_-14-500-401-_-Product

    If you read through the comments (by clicking the eggs) you'll discover some issues. For example, the 2-fan card is too loud. The 3-fan card is too big for the cooling it provides.

    Zotac doesn't seem to have the ability to make compact coolers, and also seems to miss cooling certain components.
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  6. @photonboy

    I can't thank you enough for your detailed reply :bounce: :love:
    Can you send me link for Gigabyte bending problem ?....I can't find it anywhere and I want to know which cards to put in my blacklist ( Beside EVGA PASCAL cards of course) .

    Does Gigabyte have the features that Zotac has ? I mean like CARBON EXOARMOR or Zotac just bragging about nothing special .

    Zotac appear to have a lot of features with the same price or less than Gigabyte.....I can't understand why !!

    Thanks again for your reply...you helped me a lot .
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  7. Wael Mahmoud said:
    @photonboy

    I can't thank you enough for your detailed reply :bounce: :love:
    Can you send me link for Gigabyte bending problem ?....I can't find it anywhere and I want to know which cards to put in my blacklist ( Beside EVGA PASCAL cards of course) .

    Does Gigabyte have the features that Zotac has ? I mean like CARBON EXOARMOR or Zotac just bragging about nothing special .

    Zotac appear to have a lot of features with the same price or less than Gigabyte.....I can't understand why !!

    Thanks again for your reply...you helped me a lot .


    Gigabyte issue (not sure which models, but seems to be the more recent ones with three fans)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js7IsLaaNwo

    Exoarmor? It's basically a strong fan holder (the opposite of the Gigabyte issue). Most cards don't have issues like Gigabyte, and I don't really like Zotac's coolers in general as they don't seem to provide cooling to other components and are generally LARGER than necessary.

    Asus Strix is my top choice. I also like the MSI (red/black Gaming), EVGA
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