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I am looking to build a pc in a couple months. I think I'm going to to with a Ryzen 5 build. my budget is about $600. I'm trying to decide if I could go with a gtx 1050ti 4gb or a 3gb 1060 because of vram issues. If I bought the 1050ti I would probably upgrade sometime in the next 2 years but I would keep the 1060 for at least 3 years. I'm looking to be gaming at 1080p.
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    Honestly, I would get the 1050 Ti. You are not going to max out games on the 1060 3GB anyways as most games will require the 4GB. I honestly think it was a cash grab and a shoot at AMD for their 480 4/8GB.

    Not to mention it's a bit cheaper, it uses less power. Sure you won't be able to do high settings, but at least it will perform a bit better. Remember, it's not all about the VRAM, it is about the CUDA cores, memory clock, GPU clock amongst other things. I don't see you keeping your GTX 1060 3GB for 3 years, since it will cause an upgrade.

    For your buget, I think this should do just fine:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($195.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($101.98 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($59.92 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.44 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card ($128.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $615.30
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-06-13 13:34 EDT-0400
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  2. The 1060 3GB is just a crippled version of the 6GB, i wouldn't recommend it.
    Between the 1050Ti and the 1060 3GB, i recommend the RX 480 4GB, it's the best option if you wanna save up and make the GPU last for a decent while ( As AMD driver support is much better than NVIDIA's )

    If the 480 is way out of your budget, go with the 1050Ti
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  3. LastOfEleven said:
    I am looking to build a pc in a couple months. I think I'm going to to with a Ryzen 5 build. my budget is about $600. I'm trying to decide if I could go with a gtx 1050ti 4gb or a 3gb 1060 because of vram issues. If I bought the 1050ti I would probably upgrade sometime in the next 2 years but I would keep the 1060 for at least 3 years. I'm looking to be gaming at 1080p.


    I presume then that you've heard that under certain circumstances, the 1050Ti can beat a 1060 3GB... usually when the 1060 3GB runs out of RAM.

    (soapbox) The way I see the 1060 3GB is it's a crippled 1060 6GB. Not only does it max out at 3GB of RAM, (it won't support any more than that,) it has less CUDA cores. If you don't do your research, you'll miss the differences outside of the RAM, which means the 6GB should have been a 1060Ti or the 3GB model a GTX-1058. (/soapbox)

    That said, and on the premise that's the best your budget will allow, and you need it now... the 1060 3GB will do better overall, just be ready to turn things down when it hits its memory limits.

    Expanding things... the RX470 or RX480 are also excellent choices too. (I'd go as far as to include the RX570 and RX580, but the miners have made a rush on them and it will take patience to catch them in stock.

    Ultimately, your budget has the final say though.
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  4. If you can find me one game that uses more than 3gb of VRAM on a 1080p screen i will be very very intrigued..........
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  5. TheFluffyDog said:
    If you can find me one game that uses more than 3gb of VRAM on a 1080p screen i will be very very intrigued..........


    GTA V? When I get home, I will take a screen shot and show you that it uses more than 4GB. Unless you mean on low settings.
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  6. Herc08 said:
    TheFluffyDog said:
    If you can find me one game that uses more than 3gb of VRAM on a 1080p screen i will be very very intrigued..........


    GTA V? When I get home, I will take a screen shot and show you that it uses more than 4GB. Unless you mean on low settings.



    oooooo i'll go look it up myself. really havent scene a game that uses more VRAM than like 2-3gb on the settings that a 2-3Gb card can support for a min FPS of 45fps. the times they are a changing
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  7. The 1060 3gb is a lot faster. The nonsense about a 1050ti 4gb beating it is just nonsense.
    Google some benchmarks.
    http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti/3646vs3649

    Where the 1050ti wins is on value. It gives you an amazing amount of bank for your buck.
    Here is a overclocked 1050ti 4gb for $126.
    https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Geforce-G1Gaming-Graphic-GV-N105TD5-4GD/dp/B01M4KGTNI
    Compared to the 1060 at 190
    https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-03G-P4-6162-KR/dp/B01KU2CIIY/

    So while the 1060 is always faster, question for you (not us) is if the performance difference is worth the difference to you.
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  8. TheFluffyDog said:
    Herc08 said:
    TheFluffyDog said:
    If you can find me one game that uses more than 3gb of VRAM on a 1080p screen i will be very very intrigued..........


    GTA V? When I get home, I will take a screen shot and show you that it uses more than 4GB. Unless you mean on low settings.



    oooooo i'll go look it up myself. really havent scene a game that uses more VRAM than like 2-3gb on the settings that a 2-3Gb card can support for a min FPS of 45fps. the times they are a changing


    Mind you, I'm running a GTX 1060 6GB on very high settings.
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  9. bjornl said:
    The 1060 3gb is a lot faster. The nonsense about a 1050ti 4gb beating it is just nonsense.
    Google some benchmarks.
    http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti/3646vs3649

    Where the 1050ti wins is on value. It gives you an amazing amount of bank for your buck.
    Here is a overclocked 1050ti 4gb for $126.
    https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Geforce-G1Gaming-Graphic-GV-N105TD5-4GD/dp/B01M4KGTNI
    Compared to the 1060 at 190
    https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-03G-P4-6162-KR/dp/B01KU2CIIY/

    So while the 1060 is always faster, question for you (not us) is if the performance difference is worth the difference to you.


    Herc08 said:
    TheFluffyDog said:
    Herc08 said:
    TheFluffyDog said:
    If you can find me one game that uses more than 3gb of VRAM on a 1080p screen i will be very very intrigued..........


    GTA V? When I get home, I will take a screen shot and show you that it uses more than 4GB. Unless you mean on low settings.



    oooooo i'll go look it up myself. really havent scene a game that uses more VRAM than like 2-3gb on the settings that a 2-3Gb card can support for a min FPS of 45fps. the times they are a changing


    Mind you, I'm running a GTX 1060 6GB on very high settings.


    Yeh i looked into it and the texture scaling that GTA V uses seems interesting to me. And come to think of it i remember Shadow of Mordorr was it? that used a lot of ram. I guess i keep forgetting that a 1060 technically trades blows with the original Titan GPU which means it should have the extra VRAM necessary for fancy super scaling techniques. I presume the texture scaling is causing unecessary increases in VRAM usage. This issue also came up with running Dynamic Super Resolution on Witcher 2. It did improve image quality, but it was very mean to the mainstream GPU's at the time.

    I guess what i was saying is sure, these techniques improve texture mapping quality, and can be used in place of AA in low resolution environments, but i would just leave AA on and turn of these texture scaling techniques.

    Also Herc08, go home and see if you can notice a difference from texture scaling settings and or AA. Liek turn one on and the other off, and vice versa and see what the VRAM usage does. I'd love to know :P
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  10. TheFluffyDog said:
    bjornl said:
    The 1060 3gb is a lot faster. The nonsense about a 1050ti 4gb beating it is just nonsense.
    Google some benchmarks.
    http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti/3646vs3649

    Where the 1050ti wins is on value. It gives you an amazing amount of bank for your buck.
    Here is a overclocked 1050ti 4gb for $126.
    https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Geforce-G1Gaming-Graphic-GV-N105TD5-4GD/dp/B01M4KGTNI
    Compared to the 1060 at 190
    https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-03G-P4-6162-KR/dp/B01KU2CIIY/

    So while the 1060 is always faster, question for you (not us) is if the performance difference is worth the difference to you.


    Herc08 said:
    TheFluffyDog said:
    Herc08 said:
    TheFluffyDog said:
    If you can find me one game that uses more than 3gb of VRAM on a 1080p screen i will be very very intrigued..........


    GTA V? When I get home, I will take a screen shot and show you that it uses more than 4GB. Unless you mean on low settings.



    oooooo i'll go look it up myself. really havent scene a game that uses more VRAM than like 2-3gb on the settings that a 2-3Gb card can support for a min FPS of 45fps. the times they are a changing


    Mind you, I'm running a GTX 1060 6GB on very high settings.


    Yeh i looked into it and the texture scaling that GTA V uses seems interesting to me. And come to think of it i remember Shadow of Mordorr was it? that used a lot of ram. I guess i keep forgetting that a 1060 technically trades blows with the original Titan GPU which means it should have the extra VRAM necessary for fancy super scaling techniques. I presume the texture scaling is causing unecessary increases in VRAM usage. This issue also came up with running Dynamic Super Resolution on Witcher 2. It did improve image quality, but it was very mean to the mainstream GPU's at the time.

    I guess what i was saying is sure, these techniques improve texture mapping quality, and can be used in place of AA in low resolution environments, but i would just leave AA on and turn of these texture scaling techniques.

    Also Herc08, go home and see if you can notice a difference from texture scaling settings and or AA. Liek turn one on and the other off, and vice versa and see what the VRAM usage does. I'd love to know :P


    No worries. I'll do that, and upload it and find out.

    Man, it's truly is good time to be a gamer.
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  11. I found some stuff on the Textures, and boy are those textures pretty. i wouldn't wanna lower that quality, lol. but i wonder like i said if this is less noticeable at a 1080p screen resolution. o.o eyes on you Herc08
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  12. TheFluffyDog said:
    If you can find me one game that uses more than 3gb of VRAM on a 1080p screen i will be very very intrigued..........


    Quote:
    And in titles like Doom, Hitman, and to a lesser extent, Rise of the Tomb Raider, the 3GB GeForce takes care of itself by running out of memory, even at 1920x1080. If you aren’t careful to manage the 1060’s detail settings, Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1050 Ti sometimes ends up faster thanks to its 4GB of GDDR5.
    - AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB Review
    by Igor Wallossek, Tom's Hardware, April 19, 2017 at 6:00 AM
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  13. bjornl said:
    The 1060 3gb is a lot faster. The nonsense about a 1050ti 4gb beating it is just nonsense.
    Google some benchmarks.
    http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1050-Ti/3646vs3649

    Where the 1050ti wins is on value. It gives you an amazing amount of bank for your buck.
    Here is a overclocked 1050ti 4gb for $126.
    https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Geforce-G1Gaming-Graphic-GV-N105TD5-4GD/dp/B01M4KGTNI
    Compared to the 1060 at 190
    https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-03G-P4-6162-KR/dp/B01KU2CIIY/

    So while the 1060 is always faster, question for you (not us) is if the performance difference is worth the difference to you.


    Au contraire mon frère. Under certain circumstances the 1060 3GB does get bogged down due to lack of RAM... to the point where the 1050Ti can beat it... Read the quote below.

    Quote:
    And in titles like Doom, Hitman, and to a lesser extent, Rise of the Tomb Raider, the 3GB GeForce takes care of itself by running out of memory, even at 1920x1080. If you aren’t careful to manage the 1060’s detail settings, Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1050 Ti sometimes ends up faster thanks to its 4GB of GDDR5.
    - AMD Radeon RX 570 4GB Review
    by Igor Wallossek, Tom's Hardware, April 19, 2017 at 6:00 AM


    Also userbenchmark doesn't really use real-world examples, just specifications.
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  14. TheFluffyDog said:
    I found some stuff on the Textures, and boy are those textures pretty. i wouldn't wanna lower that quality, lol. but i wonder like i said if this is less noticeable at a 1080p screen resolution. o.o eyes on you Herc08


    So last night I was doing some testing, and had some strange results. I use ShadowPlay and EVGA Precision to gain my FPS, but I was in the 20s for some reason, this is with most things on high, and AA turned on. However, when I did the benchmark, I was well in the 90-100 range. When running heaven benchmarks, the application said high 80s, but NVIDIA and EVGA were still stuck in 29, sometimes it would jump to the 70s and 80s, but most of the time it was in the 20s..in the beginning sequence, it did feel choppy, but driving around was pretty smooth, at least to me (I come from a console, so maybe I'm used to locked 30 FPS)
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