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Trying to overclock ram to 3200

Title says it all i just built a new PC to replace my 6+ year old dino after my PSU decided to bite it and take the system with it, and.... Well frankly i'm stumped by the new bios they are ENTIRELY different then my Z board set, I have NO clue how to read them and the XMP profile just causes me to crash before i even boot, I tried a bios update and nada so i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong.

Anyway specs are Ryzen 5 1600X at stock speed for the moment, Biostar X370GT5, and 8GB's Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 MHz ram, And here are screens of the offending bios http://imgur.com/a/A2cRj

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Bonus points for tips on pushing the R5 to 3.8
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  1. First off have a read of this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-agesa-firmware-update-motherboard,34525.html

    Next you will have to wait till they put out a BIOS update that has this update in it. Then you should be able to come closer to the goal you want.

    Edit: for CPU overclocking have a read of this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclocking-amd-ryzen,5011.html
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  2. I already downloaded that bios update as i said in my OP and still no dice http://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en-us/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=873#download as shown here its the agesa update but still does not work.

    As for the rest i tried the timeings listed on corsair for my ram namely 18 16 16 34 and it still wont boot, Also my old mobo you could just set voltage to 1.35 instead if this +0.10, + 0.11 ect nonsense so im unsure how to increase voltage or what correct timings are even or where to look.
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  3. OH please let me blunt... Biostar has not released the BIOS update that has the new AGESA update in it. Even when they do it is supposed to cover up to cover up to 4400 MHz ram. Now this is still considered overclocking, which is anything past 2666 MHz, so there is no guarantee that you will reach the 3200 MHz you are looking for.

    As for the link you provided, this is an old AGESA update that helped BUT not the the one I am referring to. By JUly if not before you should have a new update that will cover this new update.

    As for the RAM voltage, set the BIOS setting for voltage to manual and not Offset. This will give you a standard reading BUT will not allow the CPU or memory to lower its voltage due to load causing them both to be less energy efficient.

    As for the timings and not booting Please read this article and note that it was posted on May 29th 2017 and it says that the new update for Ryzen concerning the new AGESA update has not been released at this time. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-1600-cpu,5073.html
    Again Wait till it is released and then we can help you come close to your goal. Thank you.
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  4. Thats my fault, i was between loads and skimmed the link because i didnt have enough time to read the entire thing and missed that part.

    As for the offsets the only options i get are auto, Manual or xmp auto, then the options like +0.012, +0.024, +0.036 ect on ddr voltage or +0.036, +0.070, or +0.105 under ddr vpp and im unsure what these mean, on my old intel board i would just type in the voltage i wanted i.e 1.35 for 1.35 volts this one what are the +0.xxx a stand in for, is +0.105 1.05 volts? Or does this add +0.105 volts to the 1.199 its running at now?

    Timeing are also confusing on my intel board i had 4 options this one i have 5 under dram timings.

    I understand i got to wait for the new update, Im just curious what the hell all these totally diffrent new settings mean before i even start to play with them and end up cooking my pc.

    Sorry for edit phone froze and auto posted.
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  5. OK, let me try to clear up the voltage confusion you are having and I hope I can explain it well enough.

    Offset Voltage this is what you are seeing for +.012V or the opposite - .012V. This is the hardest to get a grip on because it adds that amount of voltage to the "Base" voltage. So as an example if the Base voltage is 1.5000V and you set the voltage to +.012V you end up with a voltage of 1.512V and again if you use the Negitive voltage offset it would be 1.488V. This is how the off set works. The major issue is Finding what the "Base Voltage" is so you know what you are adding .012V to. The CPU is easy to get the the Base because you can set the off set to 0.0000V and use CPU-Z to get the reading BUT ram is more difficult. Also some times using the - (negative) offset will lower the Base voltage so you start at a lower Voltage. WHY USE THE OFFSET THEN? Because it allows the CPU and ram voltage to lower under low demand or Idle times. This in turn saves on your electrical bill at the end of the month.

    Manual Voltage this is your most strait forward voltage setting. If you type in 1.488V in the BIOS setting for the CPU then that is the voltage. Be Ware that there is what is called "Vdroop" which is where as the component is under a heavy load the voltage can drop down on its own. To combat this they has a setting called LLC or Load Line Calibration with usually 4 settings. this setting allows you to stop the droop in the voltage. Do not just set this to the maximum since it can raise the voltage under a heavy load a lot more than the voltage is set for, a little is OK but a lot is not. So to find what works best for your board set the voltage to manual set the desired voltage, put the component under a heavy load and take a voltage reading and adjust the LLC accordingly.

    DDR Voltage is the voltage for the ram modules.
    DDR VPP is supposed to help stabilize the voltage, similar to LLC for teh CPU, and can help with overclocking and tightening the timings.

    Ram Timings This is a measure of clock cycles that the ram needs to wait before a new command can be issued. If these are to "tight", meaning set to low, the ram will have errors and can cause crashes and corruption of data. If they are set to "loose", meaning set to high, the ram will be slow. So in short the lower the timings the fast it runs BUT it to low it will cause issues. Use Memtest86+ to test your ram for stability. Also Please read this link since it goes so much further in to depth on what each setting does: http://www.overclock.net/t/381699/ram-timings-explained It is just easier to link it then tying to type this all out for you. You will learn a lot from that link about ram timings.
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  6. Ok this is more along the lines of what i was looking for a lot of this is brand new to me both because ive done little in the way of overclocking and because its been years since i have built a system, So thank you.

    Now a few additional questions, Now that i understand more what the voltage means i dont have a manual mode on my bios it seems and no negitive voltage either, Just the positive offsets, I will play around with it tomorrow when i am home but unless im missing something all i get to play with is offsets, Unlike my X board that had the manual mode apparently, This was both pre and post bios update, Is this normal?

    Next question is what is a good starting overclock for air?, I was wanting to aim for 3.8 to 4.0 on all cores something that will be long term stable but still a good kick in the pants until i can figure out how to do water cooling.

    So this should make this intersting, Hopefully though i can get my system boosted to 2400 at least until the new update, Oh well the 2133 is still better then my old rigs 1066....i think.
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    Because I do not have experience with you exact board I can not say that it is normal for that board or not But you can try turning off Cool and Quiet to if it unlocks an option for a steady voltage. This may cause the CPU fan to run at full speed all the time though so be warned if it happens.

    A good overclock: the ryzen CPU's seen to top out around teh 4 GHz mark or so. SHoot for 3.7GHz then tinker with going higher and hopefully you will get it and not have heat issues. Watch the voltage you add to the CPU though since AMD has warned against using voltage over 1.35V for 24/7 use. The issue is it can lower the life expectancy of the CPU if over that is used constantly. the better the cooling solution the better OC's you will have and longer the CPU will last.

    2133 is quite a bit faster than 1066. I ran 1066 on my DDR2 memory lol. Having an FX CPU now I'm running 1866. you will be happy with 2133 But why not shoot for the most you can get? right. :)
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