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Games stuttering with fine FPS after new SSD and HDD

I recently replaced my very old and dying HDD with an SSD for Windows and a HDD for my games, but before replacing the HDD games would run perfectly fine, but Windows was a massive problem. Since upgrading, games such as Rainbow Six Siege, Battlefield 1, and Guild Wars 2 have the same FPS as they did before, but now stutter as if the game is freezing for half a second every few seconds. It makes games like Rainbow Six and Battlefield unplayable in multiplayer.
Most of my games seem to have the issue to an extent, but some are far more noticeable than others. My specs are:
8gb RAM
ASRock H97 Fatal1ty motherboard
AMD R9 280 GPU
Intel i5 4690 CPU

My PC itself runs fine, it is only ingame that there is any form or stuttering or lag. My games are always between 50 fps and 60 fps, never below 45 fps, so it isn't a frame rate problem from what I can tell.

At this point I have tried almost everything. I've updated all of my drivers, defragmented/optimised my drives, cleaned out any dust inside of my computer, I've verified the game files, I've checked if my CPU cores are parked, I've set the priority of my games to high in task manager. I don't really know what else there is I can do at this point. Any help would be appreciated greatly. Thanks
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  1. Did you do a fresh install of Windows on the new drive or did you just copy over all the files?
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  2. Carnaxus said:
    Did you do a fresh install of Windows on the new drive or did you just copy over all the files?

    Yes, I did a clean install of Windows and I downloaded a driver checker to make sure I didn't forget any drivers.
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  3. I had similar problem like you, Got it after I upgraded my GPU from a HD6950 to a GTX 970 and I found my fix. It might help you.


    Made a YT vid of it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYQJKW_WTQ

    Let me know if this works for you
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  4. Lakken said:
    I had similar problem like you, Got it after I upgraded my GPU from a HD6950 to a GTX 970 and I found my fix. It might help you.


    Made a YT vid of it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYQJKW_WTQ

    Let me know if this works for you


    Unfortunately, I don't have Microsoft Compacts Import Tool in my task manager. I'm really quite lost at this point.
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  5. HungryHamster99 said:
    Lakken said:
    I had similar problem like you, Got it after I upgraded my GPU from a HD6950 to a GTX 970 and I found my fix. It might help you.


    Made a YT vid of it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYQJKW_WTQ

    Let me know if this works for you


    Unfortunately, I don't have Microsoft Compacts Import Tool in my task manager. I'm really quite lost at this point.


    On my computer, this task ONLY appears after I start a game..
    Start any game, ALT+TAB, open the task manager and look again
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  6. All drivers up to date? graphics driver installed from amd.com? Chipset from intel.com? AHCI activated in BIOS instead of Sata mode -> IDE?

    SSD firmware up to date?

    bench your ssd with "AS SSD" and post a screenshot of it, using an image hoster
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  7. Lakken said:
    HungryHamster99 said:
    Lakken said:
    I had similar problem like you, Got it after I upgraded my GPU from a HD6950 to a GTX 970 and I found my fix. It might help you.


    Made a YT vid of it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYQJKW_WTQ

    Let me know if this works for you


    Unfortunately, I don't have Microsoft Compacts Import Tool in my task manager. I'm really quite lost at this point.


    On my computer, this task ONLY appears after I start a game..
    Start any game, ALT+TAB, open the task manager and look again


    I started Rainbow Six Siege and it isn't there. Not sure why it isn't there.
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  8. ok... How many task are running in the task manager when you are running a game?
    The more task are running, the more cpu usage are wasted on other things then the game.
    Everything you dont need running, try to stop them in task manager... This is not a solution, but might narrow it down
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  9. Lakken said:
    ok... How many task are running in the task manager when you are running a game?
    The more task are running, the more cpu usage are wasted on other things then the game.
    Everything you dont need running, try to stop them in task manager... This is not a solution, but might narrow it down


    There shouldn't be any more than there was before I got the SSD and HDD, if anything, there should be less because it was a fresh install of Windows and I only installed the games I wanted and the programs I needed, like Discord and Steam. My computer itself doesn't lag or stutter at all, it is just ingame. As I said, Rainbow Six is unplayable in multiplayer simply due to the stuttering. Changing graphics to low or high makes absolutely no difference.
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  10. Go and see if there are any firmware updates for your SSD on the manufacturer's website.
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  11. lan driver installed from manufacturer´s homepage?
    single player games are running fine?
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  12. Neur0nauT said:
    Go and see if there are any firmware updates for your SSD on the manufacturer's website.


    Would that have any impact on the games? Windows and Rainbow Six are the only things on the SSD, while the HDD has all of the other games. I'll have a look tomorrow morning and report back. Thanks.
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  13. check the HDD sata cable, maybe it´s not good anymore or just not connected tightly.
    run HDD manufacturer´s tool to check the HDD
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  14. HungryHamster99 said:
    Neur0nauT said:
    Go and see if there are any firmware updates for your SSD on the manufacturer's website.


    Would that have any impact on the games? Windows and Rainbow Six are the only things on the SSD, while the HDD has all of the other games. I'll have a look tomorrow morning and report back. Thanks.


    It could do......some firmware updates fix read/write problems on SSDs in different systems. Even increase and improve W/R times. Make sure you have your SSD plugged into a 6gbps (SATA III) port rather than a 3gbps (SATAII) port.....your motherboard manual will show you which ones these are.

    Make sure to get your motherboard firmware up-to-date also.
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  15. helpstar said:
    check the HDD sata cable, maybe it´s not good anymore or just not connected tightly.
    run HDD manufacturer´s tool to check the HDD


    I doubt that the cable is the problem. Like I said, it happens in all of my games, including Rainbow Six which is on my SSD. I'll run the tool anyway just to double check though.
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  16. Your SSD uses SATA too, doesn't it? Check both cables by replacing them with known good ones, just to rule that out.
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  17. helpstar said:
    check the HDD sata cable, maybe it´s not good anymore or just not connected tightly.
    run HDD manufacturer´s tool to check the HDD


    Carnaxus said:
    Your SSD uses SATA too, doesn't it? Check both cables by replacing them with known good ones, just to rule that out.


    I'd have to get some new cables then because I don't have any spares that I know work well.
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  18. Neur0nauT said:
    HungryHamster99 said:
    Neur0nauT said:
    Go and see if there are any firmware updates for your SSD on the manufacturer's website.


    Would that have any impact on the games? Windows and Rainbow Six are the only things on the SSD, while the HDD has all of the other games. I'll have a look tomorrow morning and report back. Thanks.


    It could do......some firmware updates fix read/write problems on SSDs in different systems. Even increase and improve W/R times. Make sure you have your SSD plugged into a 6gbps (SATA III) port rather than a 3gbps (SATAII) port.....your motherboard manual will show you which ones these are.

    Make sure to get your motherboard firmware up-to-date also.


    It's plugged into an SATA 3 port. My motherboard seems to only have SATA 3 ports anyway. I updated my motherboard firmware which hasn't made a difference. When I look at the graphics settings in Rainbow Six, it tells me how my GPU memory I'm using with the current graphics settings, which is something like 1500/4000 or something, so that rules out my graphics card being an issue.
    What typically causes stuttering in games while not impacting frame rate? I don't really know much about computers so I'm pretty lost with this and I don't know where to be looking to tweak things.
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  19. I've just run Rainbow Six with task manager open to check my CPU, and the usage hangs around 35%-50%. Should that be higher?
    RAM/memory usage in task manager is also around 5gb-6gb/8gb, so I assume that CPU and RAM aren't the problem.

    Just trying to help narrow down the cause.
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  20. May have found the issue. I download HW Monitor to check the temperatures of my CPU and GPU and when Rainbow Six is open I see this:

    Under the temperatures tab of my motherboard:
    SYSTIN, CPUTIN and AUXTIN are all 30-35 degrees celcius but TMPIN3 is 99 degrees.

    Under Intel Core i5 4690:
    Core #0, #2, #4, #6, and package are all 90-100 degrees celcius

    GPU temperature is 50-60 degrees.

    My SSD and HDD are both around 30 degrees.

    I don't know if temperature can cause an issue like this, but I thought I'd mention it because, as I have said, I don't really have a clue when it comes to computers. How do I fix a temperature problem like this?

    Would this be the most likely cause of my problem?
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    WHOA. If those values are correct, your CPU is running way hot. An Intel CPU should never be that hot; heck, not even an AMD FX should ever be that hot. Shut that computer down, pop it open, and check the heatsink. Make sure the thermal paste hasn't dried out and that the heatsink is properly seated.

    Intel CPUs should hover around 20-30 when not in use and 40-50 when under load. Getting hotter than that means it'll throttle itself back to avoid literally burning to a crisp.

    The TMPIN3 is apparently a reading from a sensor near the GPU. If that isn't matching what the GPU itself reports, chances are either that sensor is bad or there straight up isn't a sensor.

    Edit:

    Actually, upon further research, your i5 should be giving CPU 0, 1, 2, and 3, not 0, 2, 4, and 6. It's only got 4 cores, and the numbering starts at 0. Still, pop the computer open and check the heatsink and thermal paste; never hurts to be careful.
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  22. Carnaxus said:
    WHOA. If those values are correct, your CPU is running way hot. An Intel CPU should never be that hot; heck, not even an AMD FX should ever be that hot. Shut that computer down, pop it open, and check the heatsink. Make sure the thermal paste hasn't dried out and that the heatsink is properly seated.

    Intel CPUs should hover around 20-30 when not in use and 40-50 when under load. Getting hotter than that means it'll throttle itself back to avoid literally burning to a crisp.

    The TMPIN3 is apparently a reading from a sensor near the GPU. If that isn't matching what the GPU itself reports, chances are either that sensor is bad or there straight up isn't a sensor.

    Edit:

    Actually, upon further research, your i5 should be giving CPU 0, 1, 2, and 3, not 0, 2, 4, and 6. It's only got 4 cores, and the numbering starts at 0. Still, pop the computer open and check the heatsink and thermal paste; never hurts to be careful.


    Adding new thermal paste fixed it. CPU must have been overheating and causing the stuttering. I'll still have a look into the core numbering, but overall the problem is fixed.

    How do I fix the core numbering? Will that cause any problems?

    Thanks for the help everyone.
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  23. you found your problem and solved it, that´s great :)

    the core numbering of your tool in utilization is not a fault and absolutely not interesting at all. It´s normal and fine:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc1yBKUDiak
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  24. helpstar said:
    you found your problem and solved it, that´s great :)

    the core numbering of your tool in utilization is not a fault and absolutely not interesting at all. It´s normal and fine:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc1yBKUDiak


    Huh. Is it an AMD-specific thing to use 0 1 2 3 for quad-core CPU's then? My old laptop had an A6 quad-core and it listed them as 0 1 2 3, not 0 2 4 6.
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