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Need help building first gaming PC

So I have two builds right now and I want to know which one is better or if you have any suggestions.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MHtWd6
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/T3kwnn

Also do you NEED an optical drive (this is my first pc build.)
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  1. The Ryzen build is better.
    Reply to Finstar
  2. ryzen, you don't really need a dvd drive anymore unless you watch movies or install games from it

    also the 140mm fan, does it fit on that case?

    buy ddr4 3200, ryzen loves faster memory

    i am not a big fan of all glass case, is a dust and fingerprint magnet, it does look nice but asks for lots of effort and lots of rgt or led fans to make it shine
    Reply to atljsf
  3. u dont need an optical drive. for the same budget :

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.55 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-AB350-GAMING 3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($109.49 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
    Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.45 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($509.99 @ Amazon)
    Case: Deepcool - DUKASE V2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($47.78 @ SuperBiiz)
    Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($86.88 @ OutletPC)
    Keyboard: Creative Labs - Vanguard K08 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($138.73 @ Jet)
    Mouse: Logitech - G502 Wired Optical Mouse ($59.99 @ Best Buy)
    Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($39.99 @ Amazon)
    Total: $1513.72
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-06 10:17 EDT-0400
    Reply to Lucky_SLS
  4. Best answer
    I would vote for a I5-7600K based gaming build.
    Primarily because games depend most on single thread performance, and the Intel chips have better performance per clock.
    Add to that, a I5-7600K can usually be overclocked near 5.0.
    As of 1/13/17
    What percent of samples can get an overclock
    at a vcore around 1.4v.
    I5-7600K
    5.1 28%
    5.0 52%
    4.9 72%

    Ryzen will top out about 4.0

    Then, few games can make effective use of more than 2-3 threads.
    If you play such a game, the I7-7700K will be $100 more and arguably the strongest gaming cpu available today.

    On the two builds, there are other trade=offs available.

    1. I would always include a ssd for windows in any build today. Samsung EVO at 240gb or greater is the best.

    2. I have no problem busting a budget for a great case. It will be with you for a long time.
    But, $300 for a Corsair obsidian seems a bit much.
    Functionally, you can buy a good case for 1/3 as much.
    So long as it fits your motherboard and has two 120mm front intake fans or better, you will get good performance.

    3. Likely you do not NEED an optical drive.
    Windows 10 comes on a usb stick.
    Still, A dvd burner is cheap so I would include one if your case has a space for one.
    You may find it convenient to initially load the motherboard drivers and software that will come with your motherboard.

    Lastly, two tips:

    1. Buy a #2 magnetic tip Philips screwdriver for assembly.
    2. Download and read, cover to cover your case and motherboard manuals while you are waiting for delivery.
    Reply to geofelt
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