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Upgrading the graphics card on a HP 500-404A

I'm not the most experienced in regards to graphics cards and what entails in upgrading them. i would like some guidance please in purchasing a much better one to run games like GTA 5 at decent settings as the current one barely gets by. The desktop is completely stock except the SSD which only handles the OS. my question is what graphics cards does the community recommend and secondly would it be compatible with the PSU, case and etc, i paid decent money for the system and it runs very well so i would like to refrain from buying a new PC if possible. Any and all responses are much appreciated.
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  1. Your PSU is a 300W, most probable generic unit which can't power a GTX1050. You will need to buy a quality, branded PSU before you can drop in a GPU.

    You're looking at around 200USD to get a PSU+GPU and drop it into that system which leads me to ask, do you want to drop anymore money into a prebuilt or just build anew? If you can spend the 200USD, then the new GPU and PSU would be worth the route.
  2. You can upgrade your graphics card to a gtx 1050 ti while still utilizing your existing power supply. This will be an overall well balanced gpu upgrade for your HP 500-404A and the gtx 1050 ti will be well paired with your i5 4460. The gtx 1050 ti runs on pci-e slot power and requires no additional pci-e connectors from a power supply. The gtx 1050 ti was specifically designed to be installed in low powered systems like your HP 500-404A.
    http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-6253-KR
    Since minimum system power requirements is a 300w power supply, i'd try the gpu upgrade first, before deciding to purchase a new power supply as you might find your existing PSU to be adequate.
  3. Lutfij said:
    Your PSU is a 300W, most probable generic unit which can't power a GTX1050. You will need to buy a quality, branded PSU before you can drop in a GPU.

    You're looking at around 200USD to get a PSU+GPU and drop it into that system which leads me to ask, do you want to drop anymore money into a prebuilt or just build anew? If you can spend the 200USD, then the new GPU and PSU would be worth the route.


    Thank you for your response, in that case no i dont want to spend more money i more want a quick fix to see me out for a few years or so until im due for a solid upgrade. no way around the PSU?
  4. SgtScream said:
    You can upgrade your graphics card to a gtx 1050 ti while still utilizing your existing power supply. This will be an overall well balanced gpu upgrade for your HP 500-404A and the gtx 1050 ti will be well paired with your i5 4460. The gtx 1050 ti runs on pci-e slot power and requires no additional pci-e connectors from a power supply. The gtx 1050 ti was specifically designed to be installed in low powered systems like your HP 500-404A.
    http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-6253-KR
    Since minimum system power requirements is a 300w power supply, i'd try the gpu upgrade first, before deciding to purchase a new power supply as you might find your existing PSU to be adequate.


    Thank you for your response, i think thats the way to go worst case my PC shutsdown due to more power being requested than it can give and no harm done correct? also if i am forced to buy a PSU could i drop it in the future build? or would i need a different size? as the current one appears smaller than usual.
  5. HP Power supplies are often a non-standard size and cannot be upgraded. Have a look at the sticker on the side of the PSU and tell us the amperage rating for the +12v rail - it should say something like "20A" or similar below the "+12v"

    Sgtscream is right though, chances are a gtx 1050 or 1050ti with no 6-pin will run just fine in your HP

    Edit: looking at your specs here: https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c04448312

    it seems that your power supply is indeed a standard ATX PSU (150x140x86), happy days!
  6. Jake_131 said:
    SgtScream said:
    You can upgrade your graphics card to a gtx 1050 ti while still utilizing your existing power supply. This will be an overall well balanced gpu upgrade for your HP 500-404A and the gtx 1050 ti will be well paired with your i5 4460. The gtx 1050 ti runs on pci-e slot power and requires no additional pci-e connectors from a power supply. The gtx 1050 ti was specifically designed to be installed in low powered systems like your HP 500-404A.
    http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-6253-KR
    Since minimum system power requirements is a 300w power supply, i'd try the gpu upgrade first, before deciding to purchase a new power supply as you might find your existing PSU to be adequate.


    Thank you for your response, i think thats the way to go worst case my PC shutsdown due to more power being requested than it can give and no harm done correct? also if i am forced to buy a PSU could i drop it in the future build? or would i need a different size? as the current one appears smaller than usual.

    I really think you'll be fine in using your existing power supply. If you look at power supply requirements you'll find manufacturers over exaggerate power needed when deciding the power supply requirements to over compensate for cheaply rated power supplies like the one you have. Just look at how much improvement in NVidia's power efficiency has improved over the past year. If you want to err on the side of caution, you can also get a gtx 1050 ti that's not super clocked, like the link in my post above, as it will likely draw less power:
    http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-6251-KR
    As long as you stay with an ATX form factor power supply, yes you'll be able to use your psu in your next build. You could compare dimensions of your existing power supply to an atx form factor power supply. If there isn't a significant difference in your measurements, chances are it's an atx form factor. If I were you, i'd just go with the gpu upgrade now and purchase whole new system in the future, when you need to.
  7. LucoTF said:
    HP Power supplies are often a non-standard size and cannot be upgraded. Have a look at the sticker on the side of the PSU and tell us the amperage rating for the +12v rail - it should say something like "20A" or similar below the "+12v"

    Sgtscream is right though, chances are a gtx 1050 or 1050ti with no 6-pin will run just fine in your HP


    Thank you for your response, i am not exactly sure what your after so il show you what i see and you can pick out the useless information.
    +12Va==/12A, + 12Vb==/16A
    +3.3 V== /12 A +5.08 V==/13 A
    it does mention it shall not exceed 103W further down if thats useful. as well as 300W@ 25c - 260W@50c
  8. SgtScream said:
    Jake_131 said:
    SgtScream said:
    You can upgrade your graphics card to a gtx 1050 ti while still utilizing your existing power supply. This will be an overall well balanced gpu upgrade for your HP 500-404A and the gtx 1050 ti will be well paired with your i5 4460. The gtx 1050 ti runs on pci-e slot power and requires no additional pci-e connectors from a power supply. The gtx 1050 ti was specifically designed to be installed in low powered systems like your HP 500-404A.
    http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-6253-KR
    Since minimum system power requirements is a 300w power supply, i'd try the gpu upgrade first, before deciding to purchase a new power supply as you might find your existing PSU to be adequate.


    Thank you for your response, i think thats the way to go worst case my PC shutsdown due to more power being requested than it can give and no harm done correct? also if i am forced to buy a PSU could i drop it in the future build? or would i need a different size? as the current one appears smaller than usual.

    I really think you'll be fine in using your existing power supply. If you look at power supply requirements you'll find manufacturers over exaggerate power needed when deciding the power supply requirements to over compensate for cheaply rated power supplies like the one you have. Just look at how much improvement in NVidia's power efficiency has improved over the past year. If you want to err on the side of caution, you can also get a gtx 1050 ti that's not super clocked, like the link in my post above, as it will likely draw less power:
    http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-6251-KR
    As long as you stay with an ATX form factor power supply, yes you'll be able to use your psu in your next build. You could compare dimensions of your existing power supply to an atx form factor power supply. If there isn't a significant difference in your measurements, chances are it's an atx form factor. If I were you, i'd just go with the gpu upgrade now and purchase whole new system in the future, when you need to.



    Thanks, i completely agree just to clarify the EVGA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti SC GAMING, 04G-P4-6253-KR, 4GB is the way to go and then a new system later? also how would you buy the card would it be in store or online and if so what site is reputable?
  9. Jake_131 said:
    LucoTF said:
    HP Power supplies are often a non-standard size and cannot be upgraded. Have a look at the sticker on the side of the PSU and tell us the amperage rating for the +12v rail - it should say something like "20A" or similar below the "+12v"

    Sgtscream is right though, chances are a gtx 1050 or 1050ti with no 6-pin will run just fine in your HP


    Thank you for your response, i am not exactly sure what your after so il show you what i see and you can pick out the useless information.
    +12Va==/12A, + 12Vb==/16A
    +3.3 V== /12 A +5.08 V==/13 A
    it does mention it shall not exceed 103W further down if thats useful. as well as 300W@ 25c - 260W@50c

    Does it say anything about "max combined power on 12Va and 12Vb"?

    Or maybe it just says "total xxx watts" next to them?
  10. Best answer
    I was advising to stay away from the sc card that is super clocked (SC) as manufacturer's up the voltage for overclocking.
    This graphics card isn't super clocked:
    http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-6251-KR
    You can find cards like these on websites like newegg and amazon.
  11. LucoTF said:
    Jake_131 said:
    LucoTF said:
    HP Power supplies are often a non-standard size and cannot be upgraded. Have a look at the sticker on the side of the PSU and tell us the amperage rating for the +12v rail - it should say something like "20A" or similar below the "+12v"

    Sgtscream is right though, chances are a gtx 1050 or 1050ti with no 6-pin will run just fine in your HP


    Thank you for your response, i am not exactly sure what your after so il show you what i see and you can pick out the useless information.
    +12Va==/12A, + 12Vb==/16A
    +3.3 V== /12 A +5.08 V==/13 A
    it does mention it shall not exceed 103W further down if thats useful. as well as 300W@ 25c - 260W@50c

    Does it say anything about "max combined power on 12Va and 12Vb"?

    Or maybe it just says "total xxx watts" next to them?


    No im sorry thats all it really states i have model numbers etc.
  12. SgtScream said:
    I was advising to stay away from the sc card that is super clocked (SC) as manufacturer's up the voltage for overclocking.
    This graphics card isn't super clocked:
    http://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-6251-KR
    You can find cards like these on websites like newegg and amazon.


    Thanks mate thats perfect i think thats what i will go with, newegg supports australian shipping which is what i need. totals 250AUD which isnt too bad.
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