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Quick questions boys & or gals I just bough a Ryzen 1700x and got it to 4Ghz stable. Problem is my CPUID & the Ryzen master software both say its at 90 Degrees.... Is this the actual output or does the -20 degrees law still take effect? I thought only the Ryzen master software read the temps wrong sorry if I sound dumb :D & Thanks in advance.
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  1. Try another piece of software just to be sure. If it still shows the same temps, I would highly recommend turning down that clock speed before you burn it out.
  2. Both the 1700x and the 1800x suffer this problem, what voltage are you putting through it? As far as I know, the issue hasn't been fixed yet with any software as AMD hasn't released the technical data of Ryzen yet to software writters. This is confirmed by the writters of core temp and various others, Therefore you can knock 20oC off those Temps.
  3. No it is not that hot, the temperature is increased by 20 degrees so everything is displayed is with 20 degrees higher then reality. This is only for 1700x and 1800x, 1700 does not have this issue. http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-7-have-a-temperature-20-degree-c-reporting-offset.html
  4. That is why I would prefer Intel, instead of AMD. I never had issues with cooling
  5. As previously mentioned you should be able to knock -20c off of the temperature reading but keep in mind that this is a new platform so there are going to be issues which is to be expected and even Intel hasn't been able to avoid when they release something new.

    In response to MikeLevin myself and others have had issues with Intel cooling in the past so please try answering the original posters questions and leave bias opinions out of it. However if you need a prime example of cooling it wasn't long ago it was reported that the thermal compound Intel uses to cool their cpu's is of very low quality and you actually obtain better results after de-liding and replacing the compound...
  6. MikeLevin said:
    That is why I would prefer Intel, instead of AMD. I never had issues with cooling


    Not everybody has 1200$ for 8 core cpu, honestly i never dreamed that i would buy such a thing, and when i saw what amd did, i sold my i7 6700k platform and changed to ryzen, never been happier, i got decent gaming (in real life you cannot make a difference between 6700k and 1700x) and i got my matlab computing timing down to more then halfe (instead of 2-3 hours of processing now it is under 1hour). I dont care about the 20 degrees diff, using for the moment noctua nd-15 which is deadsilent and after a bracket will appear i will install back my h100iv2 with 3000rpm noctua fans.
  7. My ryzen 1700x shows 60 degrees idle temps in ryzen master.I'm equally worried.
  8. Girishchan said:
    My ryzen 1700x shows 60 degrees idle temps in ryzen master.I'm equally worried.


    How i said, drop 20 degrees from that value and that is your real temperature, even AMD recognized that 1700x and 1800x shows a temperature with 20 degrees higher then reality. Ryzen 1700 non x doesnt have this issue, only 1700x and 1800x
  9. Dragos Manea said:
    Girishchan said:
    My ryzen 1700x shows 60 degrees idle temps in ryzen master.I'm equally worried.


    How i said, drop 20 degrees from that value and that is your real temperature, even AMD recognized that 1700x and 1800x shows a temperature with 20 degrees higher then reality. Ryzen 1700 non x doesnt have this issue, only 1700x and 1800x

    but still 40-50 degrees on idle after 20 degree subtraction is still very unusual...dats y im worried about my chip....i tried to apply high end thermal paste but still no results.
  10. for an 8 core cpu 40 degrees idle is ok, the important thing is the max temperature, idle is somewhat irrelevant.
  11. Dragos Manea said:
    for an 8 core cpu 40 degrees idle is ok, the important thing is the max temperature, idle is somewhat irrelevant.


    My 1700 stock idles at 29°C at 22°C room temperature and during prime95 test it never passes 50°C.
    My CPU cooler is Noctua NH-D15 and case is bequiet dark base PRO 900
  12. Yes stock were the frequency is 3 ghz were teh voltage is around 1V but to get to 3.6 (which is the frequency of 1700x) you need 1.2-1.3V which adds a bit of heat so the 40 degrees idle is ok for 1700x.

    EDIT: I got almost teh same thing but a bigger case, 1700x and more fans (2x140mm in front intake, 3x120mm top exhaust, 2x120mm bottom intake, 1x140mm back exhaust, all of them noctua 1200 rpm) and i m getting at stock freuqency 35-40 degrees idle and 70 load, at 3.9 ghz i get 45-50 degrees idle and 76 load. (load is tested on prime95 maximum heat option for 10-15 mins)
  13. From what I've currently seen you can knock off up to 20 degrees but knock off 15 just to be safe with the numbers. Now I assume since you are overclocking what board are you using?
    If you are using the Hero VI board then update the bios to the latest version. It has fixed some things.
    Next drop your core voltage down to 1.45 and keep your ram speeds no higher than 3000mhz (if your ram supports it that is) but you should put it to 2666 or around there to be safe (again if your ram supports such speeds) keep the base frequency at 100 and the multiplier at 40 for a 4.0Ghz clock. Make sure your cooling solution is one of the best. Air cooled isn't going to get you anywhere temps wise with this overclock. you need liquid cooling. If you have a custom loop great. If you have an AiO I would hope it's a good one. If you need a recommendation for an AiO I would recommend the Kraken X62 for this chip.
    If pretty much all that I've stated about hardware above applies to you then you should watch this video:
    https://youtu.be/I71ov8iiDP8

    Or maybe just watch the video regardless for insight on overclocking the new Ryzen 7 chips. The guy in the video is overclocking an 1800X but the everything still applies to the 1700X as well.
  14. xSimply1337x said:
    From what I've currently seen you can knock off up to 20 degrees but knock off 15 just to be safe with the numbers. Now I assume since you are overclocking what board are you using?
    If you are using the Hero VI board then update the bios to the latest version. It has fixed some things.
    Next drop your core voltage down to 1.45 and keep your ram speeds no higher than 3000mhz (if your ram supports it that is) but you should put it to 2666 or around there to be safe (again if your ram supports such speeds) keep the base frequency at 100 and the multiplier at 40 for a 4.0Ghz clock. Make sure your cooling solution is one of the best. Air cooled isn't going to get you anywhere temps wise with this overclock. you need liquid cooling. If you have a custom loop great. If you have an AiO I would hope it's a good one. If you need a recommendation for an AiO I would recommend the Kraken X62 for this chip.
    If pretty much all that I've stated about hardware above applies to you then you should watch this video:
    https://youtu.be/I71ov8iiDP8

    Or maybe just watch the video regardless for insight on overclocking the new Ryzen 7 chips. The guy in the video is overclocking an 1800X but the everything still applies to the 1700X as well.


    is a no go for 1.45 because there are situation where it cannot maintain 1.45 and adds a but to 1.49 (tested by me on asus prime x370-pro) with everything on max (loadline level 5, etc etc) at 1.42 it can get up to 1.46 which is ok, so max i recomend for 24/7 would be 1.40-1.42, in my case i reached stable 4 ghz at 1.38, and 3.925 ghz i think 1.36 but 4.1 ghz is not stable even at 1.55V so my limit is the chip here, temps are ok 76-80 degrees on core and 55-60 degrees on package but in real life it never reached 70 around 65 doing heavy matlab stuff and 50 gaming. (those are real temps not the added ones, at this temps add 20 degrees more).
  15. Dragos Manea said:
    for an 8 core cpu 40 degrees idle is ok, the important thing is the max temperature, idle is somewhat irrelevant.

    how to test the max temperature?can u pls guide me
  16. download a software called prim95 or aida64. for prime 95 when you run it you will be greated by a menu to select the torture test and select the maximum heat option, in aida64 in the cpu menu you must have test or stress test there.
  17. Dragos Manea said:
    download a software called prim95 or aida64. for prime 95 when you run it you will be greated by a menu to select the torture test and select the maximum heat option, in aida64 in the cpu menu you must have test or stress test there.

    I have run stability test on aida64 for four hours and the cpu temperature was 86 degrees when i stopped the test.My room ambient temperature was 23 degrees while stability testing.Is my cpu normal?
  18. Yes 86 degrees means 66 which is more then fine.
  19. TabzWare said:
    Quick questions boys & or gals I just bough a Ryzen 1700x and got it to 4Ghz stable. Problem is my CPUID & the Ryzen master software both say its at 90 Degrees.... Is this the actual output or does the -20 degrees law still take effect? I thought only the Ryzen master software read the temps wrong sorry if I sound dumb :D & Thanks in advance.


    watch tekthing Temp is not real.
  20. Watch Tekthing the Temp reading is not real!
  21. Just boot into the bios check the system temp and look at the current cpu tempature.
    This is your real tempature your computer is telling you boot back up into windows...
    Either cpu-z or hwmonitor will display your current temps if both are accurate then that is your real tempature.
    What heatsink and thermal paste are you using or are you using amd's craptastic watercolling/heatsink fans ?
  22. maikutech said:
    Just boot into the bios check the system temp and look at the current cpu tempature.
    This is your real tempature your computer is telling you boot back up into windows...
    Either cpu-z or hwmonitor will display your current temps if both are accurate then that is your real tempature.
    What heatsink and thermal paste are you using or are you using amd's craptastic watercolling/heatsink fans ?


    I can see you have no experience with ryzen. 1700x and 1800x reports a temperature higher with 20 degrees then in reality even in bios. In my case Asus just now updated the bios to 0515 which reports correct temperature in bios, i dont know about the other motherboards. Untill last week my temperature in bios was 58 degrees, now it is 39 after the latest update.
  23. So what are you trying to say here, is it a bios problem causing his cpu tempature to display wrong ?
    Or could it be his heatsink fan which is where I think the issue is really coming from ?
  24. Best answer
    Dont know what the cause but there was a 20 degrees offset+ for 1700x and 1800x. Just recently i can see motherboard manufacturers started fixing the issue. If you google a bit you can find more details about this issue. The offset was present everywhere, even in bios. How i said in my previous post, earlie varaints of my bios was showing 60 degrees in bios now after the latest update the temperature in bios dropped to 38-39 degrees. (this update fixes the package temperature, the core temperature of tCTL is still with 20 degrees offset.)
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