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bunch of games cause PC shutdown - gtx 1070

Running Windows 7, GTX 1070, 8 GB ram, i5 4460. PSU is a CFT 600W.

Here's the problem: a select few games cause my PC to shutdown for some reason - there is no BSOD nor minidump / any helpful information in Event Viewer.

The games that this happened on so far are Fallout 4, The Witcher 2 and 1 and Toy Soldiers.

In The Witcher 1 it always happened on a certain cutscene, after skipping it happened on some other moment in the game.

In TW2 it was the same - happened during prologue when firing the artillery a bunch of times, but then it suddenly stopped happening. After I got past that part it happened during fighting and I can't go past that now.

In Toy Soldiers it happened at random spots.

In Fallout 4, it happened twice now after entering a certain location - Haymarket Mall - and once after entering some random basement in some school building.

I tried getting some information from WhoCrashed, but minidumps / dumps are not being saved, even when I tell Windows to save them to another location.

I think the GPU is what causes this, but I'm not entirely sure. The PSU shouldn't be an issue, as I previously ran a GTX 560 which has an identical power draw as a GTX 1070. Apparently.

Any help would be appreciated!
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  1. Hmm....I know you said that it shouldn't be power, but that sure sounds like power or heat.
  2. Does it? I've forgot to mention that Witcher 3 on the other hand, ran perfectly fine with 60+ FPS on all Ultra (uber) without Hairworks ON, sometimes even for 10 hours without issues that I experience in the games mentioned above.
  3. blacklight21 said:
    Running Windows 7, GTX 1070, 8 GB ram, i5 4460. PSU is a CFT 600W.

    Here's the problem: a select few games cause my PC to shutdown for some reason - there is no BSOD nor minidump / any helpful information in Event Viewer.

    The games that this happened on so far are Fallout 4, The Witcher 2 and 1 and Toy Soldiers.

    In The Witcher 1 it always happened on a certain cutscene, after skipping it happened on some other moment in the game.

    In TW2 it was the same - happened during prologue when firing the artillery a bunch of times, but then it suddenly stopped happening. After I got past that part it happened during fighting and I can't go past that now.

    In Toy Soldiers it happened at random spots.

    In Fallout 4, it happened twice now after entering a certain location - Haymarket Mall - and once after entering some random basement in some school building.

    I tried getting some information from WhoCrashed, but minidumps / dumps are not being saved, even when I tell Windows to save them to another location.

    I think the GPU is what causes this, but I'm not entirely sure. The PSU shouldn't be an issue, as I previously ran a GTX 560 which has an identical power draw as a GTX 1070. Apparently.

    Any help would be appreciated!


    Have you watched your resources while you game with a program like MSI Afterburner https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner ? I would pay special attention to your temps, memory and core clocks. Click on the gear(settings) Click on monitoring. Click on your resource you want to monitor and then click on Show In On Screen Display(located farther down that window). I monitor my CPU load percentages and temps, core and memory clock for my GPU and my system RAM usage.

  4. blacklight21 said:
    Does it? I've forgot to mention that Witcher 3 on the other hand, ran perfectly fine with 60+ FPS on all Ultra (uber) without Hairworks ON, sometimes even for 10 hours without issues that I experience in the games mentioned above.


    With that being said I would be more inclined to blame the games instead of your PC.

    Have you completely uninstalled the offending games and did a clean reinstall? Verifying the game files through Steam or Origin may also correct the issue. With Steam you can go to your game library, right click the game, click properties, click local files and finally click on Verify Integrity of Game Files.
  5. There was nothing wrong with any games, unfortunately.

    The temperatures etcetra were all fine in MSI Afterburner on screen display.

    Is there a way to force Windows to save minidumps? I have the directory picked and all, but it just doesn't create them. Or is it maybe because the PC just shuts down, as if it was plugged from power instead of BSODing? Is that the reason for no minidumps? I'd like to add that the games don't cause my PC to shutdown in the main menu, and I'm pretty sure Fallout 4 doesn't cause a shutdown when I'm in the world, only when I'm in interiors, actually.

    Perhaps, it's a driver problem? I haven't removed my GTX 560 drivers when I installed 1070 ones, but I assume that they were automatically removed once I installed the GTX 1070 drivers.
  6. So I've uninstalled 560's drivers, reinstalled 1070's drivers, but nothing. I then ran verifier.exe which BSOD'd my PC once, and I managed to get the issue using WhoCrashed and fixed it, but that wasn't the cause unfortunately.
    I ran it again, and it found this:

    Quote:
    On Mon 2017-03-13 14:46:52 your computer crashed
    crash dump file: G:\crashdump\031317-7316-01.dmp
    This was probably caused by the following module: ntoskrnl.exe (nt+0x7EFC0)
    Bugcheck code: 0xC4 (0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0)
    Error: DRIVER_VERIFIER_DETECTED_VIOLATION
    file path: C:\Windows\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
    product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
    company: Microsoft Corporation
    description: NT Kernel & System
    Bug check description: This is the general bug check code for fatal errors found by Driver Verifier.
    The driver requested a zero-byte pool allocation. This appears to be a typical software driver bug and is not likely to be caused by a hardware problem.
    The crash took place in the Windows kernel. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver that cannot be identified at this time.


    But I'm unsure where to go now. Is there a way to fix this? Or do I have to reinstall my Windows, which I really cba to do.
  7. First make sure you're actually saving the BSODs: https://www.howtogeek.com/163452/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-blue-screen-of-death/

    If you're 100% sure your computer is setup to make them, and it still isn't when the system crashes, that means it's a power issue (a power supply issue).

    It would help us if you could tell us the make and model of your PSU, not just the wattage it claims to provide. If you had a 560, which is a decently old GPU, you probably didn't buy a good PSU that was designed to last 6 years.
  8. ...obviously, the BSODs are saved and appear when manually crashing, or having verifier.exe provoke the BIOS - otherwise I wouldn't be able to provide the minidump I had provided above. However, once the PC crash happens during playing, there is no BSOD, it just shuts down as if the power was disconnected.

    But I really don't think it's a power issue. I ran The Witcher 3, which is a really demanding game for more than 10 hours and the PC didn't even flinch. But on games like Toy Soldiers? The Witcher 2? They're, well, obviously less demanding, far less demanding than TW3, which was ran on all-max and didn't crash the PC. But those games crash it, for some reason.

    Right, I should have provided the full make and model. It's: 'CHIEFTEC CFT-600-14CS 600W'
  9. blacklight21 said:
    ...obviously, the BSODs are saved and appear when manually crashing, or having verifier.exe provoke the BIOS - otherwise I wouldn't be able to provide the minidump I had provided above. However, once the PC crash happens during playing, there is no BSOD, it just shuts down as if the power was disconnected.

    But I really don't think it's a power issue. I ran The Witcher 3, which is a really demanding game for more than 10 hours and the PC didn't even flinch. But on games like Toy Soldiers? The Witcher 2? They're, well, obviously less demanding, far less demanding than TW3, which was ran on all-max and didn't crash the PC. But those games crash it, for some reason.

    Right, I should have provided the full make and model. It's: 'CHIEFTEC CFT-600-14CS 600W'


    That's a power failure from the PSU, the rest of the computer doesn't have a chance to make a dump log, because it lost power.

    And yeah, that's not a very good PSU.
  10. ..even if yes, then what is the reason for this happening only on certain games, even ones that are from 2007, and not on one from 2015 on all-ultra? It just doesn't make sense to me..
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    blacklight21 said:
    ..even if yes, then what is the reason for this happening only on certain games, even ones that are from 2007, and not on one from 2015 on all-ultra? It just doesn't make sense to me..


    Because low quality PSUs cause all kinds of weird unexplainable problems. They don't have any thing a normal user can measure really to determine if they're at fault.

    However, it could be another piece of hardware as well, it's just that your PSU is a constant flagged item of concern. A computer shutdown without a crash log = power issue.

    Try using Blue Screen Viewer on your dump files, it might give you a 2nd hint as to what the offending crashing object is. As a future reference NTOSKRNL.exe is WINDOWS, so all that's telling you is Windows crashed.

    If you don't want to try swapping hardware, the best thing to do is try a full clean reinstall of windows that deletes everything from before. Update it, install your drivers, and then your games again and see if it still crashes to rule out software issues.
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