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GTX 1070 bottlneck

Hey guys, i don't know if im in the right section but after long time searching for my issue i figured out that my issue was bottleneck , first i thought its about drivers and windows but everything was fine until i download MSI afterburner and i checked my CPU,GPU usage and temps, in that time i figured out my GPU bottlenecking with 30% max 50% GPU usage, the temp or both CPU and GPU doesn't pass 65'c , GPU Mostly 63c and CPU mostly 65c, The Usage of GPU as i said was like 34, 41 usage, but i tried something in GTA V, i enabled ( NVIDIA DSR ) at 4k resolution and tried the game the GPU usage was fine mostly 99% and minimum 95% but in normal resolution 1080p doesn't pass 50% at GTA V.
the CPU usage i'm not sure if its fine or not it was mostly 86% usage and max 91% and minimum 84% at battlefield 4.
here is my PC specs
CPU - i7 4790k Non-OC
GPU - EVGA GTX 1070 FTW -Non-OC
PSU - CoolerMaster GX 750 Watt
Rams - Corsair Vengeance - 8GB
Hard Drive - Seagate Desktop HDD ST500DM002 500GB
SSD was Samsung 850 Pro 256GB But i gave it away to a friend , so its not a problem to not having an SSD i don't think it can cause a bottleneck.
anyway i never had this issue do you guys have a solution?
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  1. A 4000 series CPU shouldn't be much of a bottleneck. Try some different games because certain games take more CPU than GPU usage or the other way around. Check RAM. It can be a bottleneck with some games. See if your GPU is in a 16x slot instead of an 8x slot. Rarely that can cause a bottleneck as well.
  2. Why do you think you have a bottleneck?

    The 1070 at 1080p doesn't need to run at 100%, at 4k it does, as you saw.

    Your CPU running at 91% is not a bottleneck.

    Its a bottleneck if you are getting lagging, stuttering, or huge frame drops in games making it un playable.

    Stop wasting your time looking at statistics and enjoy your games!
  3. Rogue Leader said:
    Why do you think you have a bottleneck?

    The 1070 at 1080p doesn't need to run at 100%, at 4k it does, as you saw.

    Your CPU running at 91% is not a bottleneck.

    Its a bottleneck if you are getting lagging, stuttering, or huge frame drops in games making it un playable.

    Stop wasting your time looking at statistics and enjoy your games!


    enjoy my games with 60 40 fps? with gtx 1070?
    i hope your games run with 40 fps in order to make you enjoy even more.
    don't waste your time answering this post. thanks
  4. Abood Aljbori said:
    The Usage of GPU as i said was like 34, 41 usage, but i tried something in GTA V, i enabled ( NVIDIA DSR ) at 4k resolution and tried the game the GPU usage was fine mostly 99% and minimum 95% but in normal resolution 1080p doesn't pass 50% at GTA V.


    How interesting... You give the video card less work and it reports that it's working less. Funny how that is.
  5. pebbleberries said:
    A 4000 series CPU shouldn't be much of a bottleneck. Try some different games because certain games take more CPU than GPU usage or the other way around. Check RAM. It can be a bottleneck with some games. See if your GPU is in a 16x slot instead of an 8x slot. Rarely that can cause a bottleneck as well.

    i didn't try 1 game, i tried battlefield 1 battlefield 4 call of duty black ops 3 GTA 5 cs go and other games all have the same issue, its so confusing.
  6. pebbleberries said:
    A 4000 series CPU shouldn't be much of a bottleneck. Try some different games because certain games take more CPU than GPU usage or the other way around. Check RAM. It can be a bottleneck with some games. See if your GPU is in a 16x slot instead of an 8x slot. Rarely that can cause a bottleneck as well.

    i didn't try 1 game, i tried battlefield 1 battlefield 4 call of duty black ops 3 GTA 5 cs go and other games all have the same issue, its so confusing.
  7. Abood Aljbori said:
    Rogue Leader said:
    Why do you think you have a bottleneck?

    The 1070 at 1080p doesn't need to run at 100%, at 4k it does, as you saw.

    Your CPU running at 91% is not a bottleneck.

    Its a bottleneck if you are getting lagging, stuttering, or huge frame drops in games making it un playable.

    Stop wasting your time looking at statistics and enjoy your games!


    enjoy my games with 60 40 fps? with gtx 1070?
    i hope your games run with 40 fps in order to make you enjoy even more.
    don't waste your time answering this post. thanks


    Nowhere in your post did you say the games were running at 40 fps. Not only that not every game will run at 60fps plus even on a 1070 and especially not at 4k.

    But if you're going to be rude, good luck fixing it yourself, I won't waste my time anymore then.
  8. Rogue Leader said:
    Abood Aljbori said:
    Rogue Leader said:
    Why do you think you have a bottleneck?

    The 1070 at 1080p doesn't need to run at 100%, at 4k it does, as you saw.

    Your CPU running at 91% is not a bottleneck.

    Its a bottleneck if you are getting lagging, stuttering, or huge frame drops in games making it un playable.

    Stop wasting your time looking at statistics and enjoy your games!


    enjoy my games with 60 40 fps? with gtx 1070?
    i hope your games run with 40 fps in order to make you enjoy even more.
    don't waste your time answering this post. thanks


    Nowhere in your post did you say the games were running at 40 fps. Not only that not every game will run at 60fps plus even on a 1070 and especially not at 4k.

    But if you're going to be rude, good luck fixing it yourself, I won't waste my time anymore then.


    not being rude, if i said something bad to you im sorry, but as everyone know the bottleneck destroy your fps, that's why i didn't even mention it, sorry again .
    and btw, im getting almost same fps at 4k
    gta V 50 -47 Fps at 99% usage with DSR
    At 1080p 54 fps even drops to 47..
    i thought you're saying enjoy your game with that poor performance man.
  9. Bottlenecks do not always mess up your FPS. In fact you can have a very high FPS and then see stuttering because the CPU cannot keep up.

    Based on everything you have written there is no visible problem and your hardware is performing correctly. However if you think there is an issue we will need more information. Do you have Vsync on?

    Can you record your gameplay (with on screen fps counter)?

    If not can you use MSI afterburner to record some telemetry for us showing things like fps during game-play, GPU and CPU useage, temperatures, etc. This with gameplay recording can help.

    Without that there is not much we can do.
  10. Let's get a few things straight.

    Yes, you have a bottleneck, but every system always has a bottleneck. There is always a weak link, and it varies from game to game. It doesn't matter if you have a bottleneck if you are getting the FPS you desire. If the bottleneck is the CPU, you won't be capable of increasing your FPS nearly as easily as if it's the GPU, because CPU's don't often improve with more cores, and IPC has only marginally improved over the years. Graphical settings don't typically put much stress on the CPU either, so changing settings doesn't help much there.

    The point is, don't get hung up on your bottlenecks unless you are having real performance issues as a result. Just because your GPU isn't being used fully, does not matter if you are getting enjoyable FPS. You can turn up the settings and have better visuals if you want to get more usage.

    If you are after 144 FPS or something like that, then know that you'll fight the CPU bottleneck most your gaming days.
  11. Rogue Leader said:
    Bottlenecks do not always mess up your FPS. In fact you can have a very high FPS and then see stuttering because the CPU cannot keep up.

    Based on everything you have written there is no visible problem and your hardware is performing correctly. However if you think there is an issue we will need more information. Do you have Vsync on?

    Can you record your gameplay (with on screen fps counter)?

    If not can you use MSI afterburner to record some telemetry for us showing things like fps during game-play, GPU and CPU useage, temperatures, etc. This with gameplay recording can help.

    Without that there is not much we can do.


    i will do it, just give me a time, but i will give you some example, in battlefield 4.
    if i play like in siege of shanghai and i deploy my self in our base, with the low usage i get 120 fps with no problem, but if i go to the ( C ) i get low fps. here is an example i.imgur.com/zKbG01B.jpg
    all settings are from nvidia driver and in game.
    that's why im so confused.
    also higher quality lower fps, but in battlefield 4 and 1 in the same game same map same settings i asked player if you play with gtx 1070 and i asked them about their fps it was much much more. their minimum fps was like 120 fps but mine was 63.
  12. Abood Aljbori said:
    Rogue Leader said:
    Bottlenecks do not always mess up your FPS. In fact you can have a very high FPS and then see stuttering because the CPU cannot keep up.

    Based on everything you have written there is no visible problem and your hardware is performing correctly. However if you think there is an issue we will need more information. Do you have Vsync on?

    Can you record your gameplay (with on screen fps counter)?

    If not can you use MSI afterburner to record some telemetry for us showing things like fps during game-play, GPU and CPU useage, temperatures, etc. This with gameplay recording can help.

    Without that there is not much we can do.


    i will do it, just give me a time, but i will give you some example, in battlefield 4.
    if i play like in siege of shanghai and i deploy my self in our base, with the low usage i get 120 fps with no problem, but if i go to the ( C ) i get low fps. here is an example i.imgur.com/zKbG01B.jpg
    all settings are from nvidia driver and in game.
    that's why im so confused.
    also higher quality lower fps, but in battlefield 4 and 1 in the same game same map same settings i asked player if you play with gtx 1070 and i asked them about their fps it was much much more. their minimum fps was like 120 fps but mine was 63.


    I still don't see an issue.

    First off don't trust the results some random guy playing online tells you, more than just hardware goes into your FPS especially when playing online, and he may just be guesstimating. Secondly when you are looking over a large panoramic viewpoint with long draw distances you absolutely could be getting down to 63 fps, that shot looks correct. No GPU 1070 or 1080 can maintain 120 fps at 1080p in BF 4 at all times playing online because of this. I'm seeing errors in your console showing ping being high, can affect it as well.

    Test the game on single player and see how your results are then you will know if its a true hardware issue.
  13. Rogue Leader said:
    Abood Aljbori said:
    Rogue Leader said:
    Bottlenecks do not always mess up your FPS. In fact you can have a very high FPS and then see stuttering because the CPU cannot keep up.

    Based on everything you have written there is no visible problem and your hardware is performing correctly. However if you think there is an issue we will need more information. Do you have Vsync on?

    Can you record your gameplay (with on screen fps counter)?

    If not can you use MSI afterburner to record some telemetry for us showing things like fps during game-play, GPU and CPU useage, temperatures, etc. This with gameplay recording can help.

    Without that there is not much we can do.


    i will do it, just give me a time, but i will give you some example, in battlefield 4.
    if i play like in siege of shanghai and i deploy my self in our base, with the low usage i get 120 fps with no problem, but if i go to the ( C ) i get low fps. here is an example i.imgur.com/zKbG01B.jpg
    all settings are from nvidia driver and in game.
    that's why im so confused.
    also higher quality lower fps, but in battlefield 4 and 1 in the same game same map same settings i asked player if you play with gtx 1070 and i asked them about their fps it was much much more. their minimum fps was like 120 fps but mine was 63.


    I still don't see an issue.

    First off don't trust the results some random guy playing online tells you, more than just hardware goes into your FPS especially when playing online, and he may just be guesstimating. Secondly when you are looking over a large panoramic viewpoint with long draw distances you absolutely could be getting down to 63 fps, that shot looks correct. No GPU 1070 or 1080 can maintain 120 fps at 1080p in BF 4 at all times playing online because of this. I'm seeing errors in your console showing ping being high, can affect it as well.

    Test the game on single player and see how your results are then you will know if its a true hardware issue.


    this was random server to test my frames btw, also bf1 in single player has also 63- 71 fps..
    even gta 5 single player so i don't think it matters.
  14. Without video comparison and telemetry from Afterburner we can't really do much here. Get us that and we can see if there is a problem.
  15. Rogue Leader said:
    Without video comparison and telemetry from Afterburner we can't really do much here. Get us that and we can see if there is a problem.

    i will try to record with my phone, obs doesn't work fine with me, give time until tomorrow and i will play battlefield 1 and you can see like how i see. is that fine?
  16. Rogue Leader said:
    Without video comparison and telemetry from Afterburner we can't really do much here. Get us that and we can see if there is a problem.

    i will try to record with my phone, obs doesn't work fine with me, give time until tomorrow and i will play battlefield 1 and you can see like how i see. is that fine?
  17. Try a screen capture program like the one built into the nvidia drivers, make sure fps counter is active.
  18. You might want to run 3dmark Time Spy or Firestrike too, and post a link to the results.
  19. bystander said:
    You might want to run 3dmark Time Spy or Firestrike too, and post a link to the results.


    Excellent suggestion.
  20. Well bf1 at 70fps ultra 1080p is plain wrong, as ill happily chug along at north of 100....so it does seem like something isn't right.

    OP - as has been mentioned, please check the gpu clock speed when gaming. It's adaptive and wiol vary based on temp and voltage. It may be for some reason its not.boosting above base clock (most 1070s go.from 1550 ish to 2000mhz)

    Also, is CPU holding max clocks? You could help by putting an oc on the cup, although a 4c/8t has well at 4ghz shouldn't be causing much issue.
  21. Okay guys sorry for delaying, here is the video i recorded
    i recorded this video with OBS, obs doesn't reduce FPS only like 3-4 frames.
    how ever i didn't know how to use it currently but anyways i recorded my game play to you hopefully this is what you asked for.
    https://youtu.be/0vJ8_5zkE7g?t=48s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI4esS5u8k4
    settings was on ultra 1080. 100% resolution scale
  22. Abood Aljbori said:
    Okay guys sorry for delaying, here is the video i recorded
    i recorded this video with OBS, obs doesn't reduce FPS only like 3-4 frames.
    how ever i didn't know how to use it currently but anyways i recorded my game play to you hopefully this is what you asked for.
    https://youtu.be/0vJ8_5zkE7g?t=48s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI4esS5u8k4
    settings was on ultra 1080. 100% resolution scale


    Like I said before, try 3dmark Timespy. This would be an easy way to see if your system is running normally, or not.

    As far as your 2 videos, you are CPU bound, 100% certain. That can either be the CPU is throttling, background apps, or it simply not being fast enough for higher FPS in that game.
  23. bystander said:
    Abood Aljbori said:
    Okay guys sorry for delaying, here is the video i recorded
    i recorded this video with OBS, obs doesn't reduce FPS only like 3-4 frames.
    how ever i didn't know how to use it currently but anyways i recorded my game play to you hopefully this is what you asked for.
    https://youtu.be/0vJ8_5zkE7g?t=48s
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI4esS5u8k4
    settings was on ultra 1080. 100% resolution scale


    Like I said before, try 3dmark Timespy. This would be an easy way to see if your system is running normally, or not.

    As far as your 2 videos, you are CPU bound, 100% certain. That can either be the CPU is throttling, background apps, or it simply not being fast enough for higher FPS in that game.


    i will download now, but can you tell me what details you want from that program? i never used it.
    about the background apps don't worry about them i just have games on my pc i didn't even install my skype because i dont use skype on my pc so i keep the used programs only like google chrome my keyboard and mouse drivers only..
  24. ok this is the result of 3d mark
    http://i.imgur.com/IGYhDJW.png
    Online compare - better than 88% of all results
  25. It might be your in-game settings? What is your resolution scale on? I have the same GPU as you and a way weaker CPU. I have the i5 4460. An i7 4490k will never, but never be a bottleneck for a 1070, unless it's truly broken.

    Another big problem might be your RAM. You only have 8GB when most game nowadays will run way better with (because they need) 16GB.

    If you're playing all games at 4k, don't be surprised your performance drops. The 1070 is mostly ment for 1080p 1440p gaming. 4K might just be too much. You need a really good PC to run at 4k. Not even the gtx 1080 plays all games at ultra in 4k.
  26. theRTT said:
    It might be your in-game settings? What is your resolution scale on? I have the same GPU as you and a way weaker CPU. I have the i5 4460. An i7 4490k will never, but never be a bottleneck for a 1070, unless it's truly broken.

    Another big problem might be your RAM. You only have 8GB when most game nowadays will run way better with (because they need) 16GB.

    If you're playing all games at 4k, don't be surprised your performance drops. The 1070 is mostly ment for 1080p 1440p gaming. 4K might just be too much. You need a really good PC to run at 4k. Not even the gtx 1080 plays all games at ultra in 4k.
    please read what i said, i said i tested dsr on 4k and the usage was 99% only, the ingame settings are fine, about rams lets say bf1 need 32 rams okay? what about battlefield 4? they don't really need much ram 8 is enough. i can buy more but i don't want tbh.
  27. Abood Aljbori said:
    theRTT said:
    It might be your in-game settings? What is your resolution scale on? I have the same GPU as you and a way weaker CPU. I have the i5 4460. An i7 4490k will never, but never be a bottleneck for a 1070, unless it's truly broken.

    Another big problem might be your RAM. You only have 8GB when most game nowadays will run way better with (because they need) 16GB.

    If you're playing all games at 4k, don't be surprised your performance drops. The 1070 is mostly ment for 1080p 1440p gaming. 4K might just be too much. You need a really good PC to run at 4k. Not even the gtx 1080 plays all games at ultra in 4k.
    please read what i said, i said i tested dsr on 4k and the usage was 99% only, the ingame settings are fine, about rams lets say bf1 need 32 rams okay? what about battlefield 4? they don't really need much ram 8 is enough. i can buy more but i don't want tbh.


    What resolution are you playing on than?

    If you have your resolutionscale is set on 150 or so, maybe even 125, it might really decrease your fps.

    16GB Ram for bf1 is enough. Of course you don't want to buy more, but sometimes there is no other choice. I am not saying the Ram is the problem, but it might..
  28. Abood Aljbori said:
    ok this is the result of 3d mark
    http://i.imgur.com/IGYhDJW.png
    Online compare - better than 88% of all results


    Instead of a screenshot please provide the link to your results (click "Compare result online" to get the link).

    Based on this result again I don't see a problem. I did view your videos and I see the CPU useage. In BF1 this is a known problem with the game, it seems to eat CPUs. Many people have complained about it and there is not a fix yet.

    Regarding the videos I want to confirm for sure you are NOT using DSR at 4k but instead just running at ingame settings of 1080p ultra. Just forget DSR for now.
  29. Just for the sake of it, can you make screenshots of your in-game settings of the games you play?

    Bf1 has indeed some problems with the CPU usage, but it is already way better than it was since the launch.
  30. Rogue Leader said:
    Abood Aljbori said:
    ok this is the result of 3d mark
    http://i.imgur.com/IGYhDJW.png
    Online compare - better than 88% of all results


    Instead of a screenshot please provide the link to your results (click "Compare result online" to get the link).

    Based on this result again I don't see a problem. I did view your videos and I see the CPU useage. In BF1 this is a known problem with the game, it seems to eat CPUs. Many people have complained about it and there is not a fix yet.

    Regarding the videos I want to confirm for sure you are NOT using DSR at 4k but instead just running at ingame settings of 1080p ultra. Just forget DSR for now.


    i disabled dsr immediately after i finished the test , i will rebenchmark and give you the link 5 mints
  31. ok this is the battlefield 4 frames test, sadly i was wanted to show MSI afterburner but OBS doesn't show it after i stop recording, so i decided to show fps in game.
    https://youtu.be/b7iWCRkG6AI
    soon gta 5 test if you want.
  32. theRTT said:
    It might be your in-game settings? What is your resolution scale on? I have the same GPU as you and a way weaker CPU. I have the i5 4460. An i7 4490k will never, but never be a bottleneck for a 1070, unless it's truly broken.

    Another big problem might be your RAM. You only have 8GB when most game nowadays will run way better with (because they need) 16GB.

    If you're playing all games at 4k, don't be surprised your performance drops. The 1070 is mostly ment for 1080p 1440p gaming. 4K might just be too much. You need a really good PC to run at 4k. Not even the gtx 1080 plays all games at ultra in 4k.


    ALL CPU's bottleneck GPU's in some games from time to time. ALL of them. An i7 is not faster than in i5 in most games. They are only faster when the game multi threads the draw call thread, which most do not. That particular game has been known to have a lot of CPU bottlenecking as of now, so that is the most likely problem.
  33. Abood Aljbori said:
    ok this is the result of 3d mark
    http://i.imgur.com/IGYhDJW.png
    Online compare - better than 88% of all results


    Could you please link us the results. A screenshot is not what we want, but the link to the webpage that furmark gave you.
  34. bystander said:
    theRTT said:
    It might be your in-game settings? What is your resolution scale on? I have the same GPU as you and a way weaker CPU. I have the i5 4460. An i7 4490k will never, but never be a bottleneck for a 1070, unless it's truly broken.

    Another big problem might be your RAM. You only have 8GB when most game nowadays will run way better with (because they need) 16GB.

    If you're playing all games at 4k, don't be surprised your performance drops. The 1070 is mostly ment for 1080p 1440p gaming. 4K might just be too much. You need a really good PC to run at 4k. Not even the gtx 1080 plays all games at ultra in 4k.


    ALL CPU's bottleneck GPU's in some games from time to time. ALL of them. An i7 is not faster than in i5 in most games. They are only faster when the game multi threads the draw call thread, which most do not. That particular game has been known to have a lot of CPU bottlenecking as of now, so that is the most likely problem.


    Sure, but the i7 4970k is a great CPU which probably is not bottlenecking this GPU atm. A lot of people mention that the CPU is bottlenecking without thinking about the rest.. Not that I say you do so (; You could be right but I doubt that.

    Another thing is that a lot of people ask miracles from the gtx 1070, I have one myself with a weaker CPU. I had problems before too. I thought my fps was bad but we should not forget that we're talking about GTA V, Battlefield 4 & 1, which are really heavy games for CPU and GPU. My problems went away after updates of windows and driver updates and I accepted that the gtx 1070, is truly a great and amazing GPU, but just not THAT powerful like most people think it is..

    But in this case, it probably not the GPU or CPU. It can be solved by the simplest things like driver updates. Maybe a firmware update will help.
  35. theRTT said:
    bystander said:
    theRTT said:
    It might be your in-game settings? What is your resolution scale on? I have the same GPU as you and a way weaker CPU. I have the i5 4460. An i7 4490k will never, but never be a bottleneck for a 1070, unless it's truly broken.

    Another big problem might be your RAM. You only have 8GB when most game nowadays will run way better with (because they need) 16GB.

    If you're playing all games at 4k, don't be surprised your performance drops. The 1070 is mostly ment for 1080p 1440p gaming. 4K might just be too much. You need a really good PC to run at 4k. Not even the gtx 1080 plays all games at ultra in 4k.


    ALL CPU's bottleneck GPU's in some games from time to time. ALL of them. An i7 is not faster than in i5 in most games. They are only faster when the game multi threads the draw call thread, which most do not. That particular game has been known to have a lot of CPU bottlenecking as of now, so that is the most likely problem.


    Sure, but the i7 4970k is a great CPU which probably is not bottlenecking this GPU atm. A lot of people mention that the CPU is bottlenecking without thinking about the rest.. Not that I say you do so (; You could be right but I doubt that.

    Another thing is that a lot of people ask miracles from the gtx 1070, I have one myself with a weaker CPU. I had problems before too. I thought my fps was bad but we should not forget that we're talking about GTA V, Battlefield 4 & 1, which are really heavy games for CPU and GPU. My problems went away after updates of windows and driver updates and I accepted that the gtx 1070, is truly a great and amazing GPU, but just not THAT powerful like most people think it is..

    But in this case, it probably not the GPU or CPU. It can be solved by the simplest things like driver updates. Maybe a firmware update will help.


    He is, without a doubt, CPU bound atm. It's possible there are fixes to resolve it, but he is, without a doubt, with 100% certain, CPU bound at this moment. His readings from the video he posted showed 95-100% per core usage, across multiple cores, while the GPU was less than 60% usage. That is, without a doubt, a bottleneck.

    The question is whether or not it is normal with that game and setup, or if there is a problem with the system, but make no mistake, he is bottlenecked. It's also quite wrong to claim that an i7 can't be bottlenecked without something being broken. They bottleneck GPU's all the time, just as the GPU bottlenecks the CPU all the time. Every system is always in a state of bottlenecking. Where the bottleneck lies changes from game to game and place to place. Going online also tends to make most games CPU bound, but something is always bottlenecking something else.

    Edit: The reason we are trying to get the link to his 3dmark Time Spy results, is it would let us know if his system is performing up to par, or if this is a specific game issue.
  36. bystander said:
    theRTT said:
    bystander said:
    theRTT said:
    It might be your in-game settings? What is your resolution scale on? I have the same GPU as you and a way weaker CPU. I have the i5 4460. An i7 4490k will never, but never be a bottleneck for a 1070, unless it's truly broken.

    Another big problem might be your RAM. You only have 8GB when most game nowadays will run way better with (because they need) 16GB.

    If you're playing all games at 4k, don't be surprised your performance drops. The 1070 is mostly ment for 1080p 1440p gaming. 4K might just be too much. You need a really good PC to run at 4k. Not even the gtx 1080 plays all games at ultra in 4k.


    ALL CPU's bottleneck GPU's in some games from time to time. ALL of them. An i7 is not faster than in i5 in most games. They are only faster when the game multi threads the draw call thread, which most do not. That particular game has been known to have a lot of CPU bottlenecking as of now, so that is the most likely problem.


    Sure, but the i7 4970k is a great CPU which probably is not bottlenecking this GPU atm. A lot of people mention that the CPU is bottlenecking without thinking about the rest.. Not that I say you do so (; You could be right but I doubt that.

    Another thing is that a lot of people ask miracles from the gtx 1070, I have one myself with a weaker CPU. I had problems before too. I thought my fps was bad but we should not forget that we're talking about GTA V, Battlefield 4 & 1, which are really heavy games for CPU and GPU. My problems went away after updates of windows and driver updates and I accepted that the gtx 1070, is truly a great and amazing GPU, but just not THAT powerful like most people think it is..

    But in this case, it probably not the GPU or CPU. It can be solved by the simplest things like driver updates. Maybe a firmware update will help.


    He is, without a doubt, CPU bound atm. It's possible there are fixes to resolve it, but he is, without a doubt, with 100% certain, CPU bound at this moment. His readings from the video he posted showed 95-100% per core usage, across multiple cores, while the GPU was less than 60% usage. That is, without a doubt, a bottleneck.

    The question is whether or not it is normal with that game and setup, or if there is a problem with the system, but make no mistake, he is bottlenecked. It's also quite wrong to claim that an i7 can't be bottlenecked without something being broken. They bottleneck GPU's all the time, just as the GPU bottlenecks the CPU all the time. Every system is always in a state of bottlenecking. Where the bottleneck lies changes from game to game and place to place. Going online also tends to make most games CPU bound, but something is always bottlenecking something else.

    Edit: The reason we are trying to get the link to his 3dmark Time Spy results, is it would let us know if his system is performing up to par, or if this is a specific game issue.


    It's not always a CPU bottleneck when the CPU is 99%. But Battlefield 1 is indeed poorly optimized since the launch. Go to the BF1 forums and you will see that the forum is filled with "Bad performance topics". Like there are hundreds.. But BF1 is better optimized now. I had problems with it too, I still kinda have. But far from the big issues and others had at the launch. The weird part is that mostly GTX 1070 users are having trouble with that game. With low GPU usage and high CPU usage. So if we only take BF1 as an example you don't know anything for sure at all..
  37. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16839887
    here is the online result, btw this is demo not purchased program.
  38. theRTT said:
    It's not always a CPU bottleneck when the CPU is 99%. But Battlefield 1 is indeed poorly optimized since the launch. Go to the BF1 forums and you will see that the forum is filled with "Bad performance topics". Like there are hundreds.. But BF1 is better optimized now. I had problems with it too, I still kinda have. But far from the big issues and others had at the launch. The weird part is that mostly GTX 1070 users are having trouble with that game. With low GPU usage and high CPU usage. So if we only take BF1 as an example you don't know anything for sure at all..


    The CPU is at 100% quite a lot. The GPU is at 60%. That's a bottleneck.
  39. Abood Aljbori said:
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16839887
    here is the online result, btw this is demo not purchased program.


    The result shows you get a score that is right there with the majority of people with a similar system. So we can fairly safely say, the issue is with the game, and not your system.

    The game is bound by your CPU. You could OC your CPU, but that won't likely bring all that meaningful improvements. You should also make sure your drivers are up to date, and any game updates are also installed. Maybe check a tweak guide on how to tune the game for best results.

    Mostly, you likely just have to live with the results for this game.
  40. ^ I agree, and its what I've been saying all along. If you look at matching results the only faster ones the CPU and GPU are overclocked quite a bit. Everything is working.

    Visually based on the videos the game plays fine, if you drop down the AA effects you can get a decent FPS boost in many games as well (thats how most reviewers test games).
  41. bystander said:
    Abood Aljbori said:
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/16839887
    here is the online result, btw this is demo not purchased program.


    The result shows you get a score that is right there with the majority of people with a similar system. So we can fairly safely say, the issue is with the game, and not your system.

    The game is bound by your CPU. You could OC your CPU, but that won't likely bring all that meaningful improvements. You should also make sure your drivers are up to date, and any game updates are also installed. Maybe check a tweak guide on how to tune the game for best results.

    Mostly, you likely just have to live with the results for this game.

    i can say the problem with 1-2 games not all games.
  42. Rogue Leader said:
    ^ I agree, and its what I've been saying all along. If you look at matching results the only faster ones the CPU and GPU are overclocked quite a bit. Everything is working.

    Visually based on the videos the game plays fine, if you drop down the AA effects you can get a decent FPS boost in many games as well (thats how most reviewers test games).

    bf1 and bf4 when i run them on low settings they didn't do much different, bf4 15 extra fps bf1 8 extra fps or 9
  43. Best answer
    Abood Aljbori said:

    i can say the problem with 1-2 games not all games.


    Then its not a problem with your system its the games.

    Abood Aljbori said:

    bf1 and bf4 when i run them on low settings they didn't do much different, bf4 15 extra fps bf1 8 extra fps or 9


    You don't need to drop to low settings, and 15 fps is a HUGE difference. Keep all the settings up and drop the AA (Anti-Aliasing) settings, its very system intensive and can cause larger swings in fps, which is why review sites turn it off for testing.

    With that that is the best your system is going to perform in these games. As I told you before. Its the games.
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