Severe underperformance in Watch Dogs 2 GTX 1080

Hello,

So, from what I've read, the GTX 1080 should be getting minimum 90fps on 1440p resolution.

I am running 1080p (before you criticise, I know is overkill to have a gtx 1080 for 1080p) and am getting AVERAGE 45 fps on high and ultra settings.

My rig is:
Watercooled (Corsair H55 I believe) Intel Core i5 6600k @4.0 GHz
Gigabyte GeForce® GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming WATERFORCE 8G
2x 8GB Ripjaw X RAM modules
EVGA SuperNova 750 G2 Power Supply
512GB Sandisk Pro SSD
2TB HDD
Windows 10 64bit
ASRock Z170 Pro4 D3 MOBO

In general, my 1080 has been a lot lower than expectations in all games but yeah, any help would be greatly appreciated.

My CPU usage in every gme has been near 100 and I am not sure why because the i5 6600k was supposed to be quite a powerful cpu.

Thankyou in advance
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  1. Tacoman98 said:
    Hello,

    So, from what I've read, the GTX 1080 should be getting minimum 90fps on 1440p resolution.

    I am running 1080p (before you criticise, I know is overkill to have a gtx 1080 for 1080p) and am getting AVERAGE 45 fps on high and ultra settings.

    My rig is:
    Watercooled (Corsair H55 I believe) Intel Core i5 6600k @4.0 GHz
    Gigabyte GeForce® GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming WATERFORCE 8G
    2x 8GB Ripjaw X RAM modules
    EVGA SuperNova 750 G2 Power Supply
    512GB Sandisk Pro SSD
    2TB HDD
    Windows 10 64bit
    ASRock Z170 Pro4 D3 MOBO

    In general, my 1080 has been a lot lower than expectations in all games but yeah, any help would be greatly appreciated.

    My CPU usage in every gme has been near 100 and I am not sure why because the i5 6600k was supposed to be quite a powerful cpu.

    Thankyou in advance


    are you monitoring cpu temps while you play?
    Reply to maxalge
  2. Yes and my temps are never over 50 degrees celcius because of my watercooling.
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  3. Have you tried reseating your GPU? I had some issues with my 970 and that seemed to have fixed it.

    Do you have any background processes open that is limiting the CPU usage?

    Have you tried overclocking your CPU to get an extra boost out of it?
    Reply to xFeaRDom
  4. I don't think there are any programs limiting CPU usage after checking task manager.

    I have OC'ed my CPU to 4 GHz from 3.5GHz.

    I will try reseating my GPU.
    Reply to Tacoman98
  5. Tacoman98 said:
    I don't think there are any programs limiting CPU usage after checking task manager.

    I have OC'ed my CPU to 4 GHz from 3.5GHz.

    I will try reseating my GPU.


    I am hoping that it is to do with the seating of the GPU, you could always try to RMA the GPU afterwards if it doesn't work, but it is a very costly and long process.

    Do you have another PC you can use this in? If so can you do so.
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  6. xFeaRDom said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    I don't think there are any programs limiting CPU usage after checking task manager.

    I have OC'ed my CPU to 4 GHz from 3.5GHz.

    I will try reseating my GPU.


    I am hoping that it is to do with the seating of the GPU, you could always try to RMA the GPU afterwards if it doesn't work, but it is a very costly and long process.

    Do you have another PC you can use this in? If so can you do so.



    I tried reseating the GPU, no fix.
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  7. Tacoman98 said:
    xFeaRDom said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    I don't think there are any programs limiting CPU usage after checking task manager.

    I have OC'ed my CPU to 4 GHz from 3.5GHz.

    I will try reseating my GPU.


    I am hoping that it is to do with the seating of the GPU, you could always try to RMA the GPU afterwards if it doesn't work, but it is a very costly and long process.

    Do you have another PC you can use this in? If so can you do so.



    I tried reseating the GPU, no fix.


    Right, how long has this issue been going on?

    Was it after a driver update, or has it been all the time?

    Are your drivers fully up-to-date as there may be issues brought with the old drivers.
    Reply to xFeaRDom
  8. Is it possibly to do with my monitor. One of my mates said its frame skipping (AOC G2460PF 144Hz Monitor) because it is apparently a rip off 144hz monitor.
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  9. Tacoman98 said:
    Is it possibly to do with my monitor. One of my mates said its frame skipping (AOC G2460PF 144Hz Monitor) because it is apparently a rip off 144hz monitor.


    I highly doubt it's to do with your monitor, it won't cause low FPS, if anything it will try and force up to 144Hz, and obviously screen tearing anything below it, this will not cause low FPS just various skipping.
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  10. This issue has been like this since the day I intsalled the card. It just hasn't been performing as expected. I would've thought it could run above 100 on max settings in most games. My drivers are up to date but am reinstalling them at the moment.
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  11. Tacoman98 said:
    This issue has been like this since the day I intsalled the card. It just hasn't been performing as expected. I would've thought it could run above 100 on max settings in most games. My drivers are up to date but am reinstalling them at the moment.


    Reinstallation is a good choice.

    How long have you had this card? It will still be in warranty, so you could try to get the shop you bought it from to test it, and if they do not do that, then replace it and see if that happens. #

    Did you build this from scratch or did you upgrade it piece by piece? If so, did you uninstall your old GPU drivers, that may cause a clash but I highly doubt it.
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  12. I only got it earlier this year. I have been progressively upgrading all of my parts. I did uninstall my previous drivers before installing my new ones. Is there anything else I can do so that I don't have to replace it. I have had issues with the store that I bought it from with other components, is there a way of replacing it directly with Nvidia?
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  13. Tacoman98 said:
    I only got it earlier this year. I have been progressively upgrading all of my parts. I did uninstall my previous drivers before installing my new ones. Is there anything else I can do so that I don't have to replace it. I have had issues with the store that I bought it from with other components, is there a way of replacing it directly with Nvidia?


    Its nothing to do with Nvidia directly, its more towards Gigabyte,

    Try creating an account on their website, and registering your GPU then fill out an RMA form and then you will get a replacement directly from Gigabyte, instead of that store.
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  14. So it turns out that I have to consult with MSY according to Gigbyte's website.
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  15. Tacoman98 said:
    So it turns out that I have to consult with MSY according to Gigbyte's website.


    I don't think you ever replied to this question, do you have another spare computer that you can test this GPU in?
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  16. Oh right :) No sorry I don't.
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  17. Tacoman98 said:
    Oh right :) No sorry I don't.


    Right, that would've helped quite a lot.

    As you've tried basically everything and performance is still low, it may be an issue with your GPU in which case an RMA or replacement will be best advised, as already said.

    Do you have another GPU to test to see that it is not your motherboard? I highly doubt it is.
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  18. The 6600k has a turbo speed of 3.9Ghz so your overclock to 4.0 is negligible. Try going up to 4.4-4.6.

    Now the not nice bit. People throw around an i5 is all you need and an i7 brings little gain. This is not 100% true. In high fps situations where a game is CPU intensive and can use multiple threads an i7 brings significant gains to the minimum and average fps. Max fps is normally unchanged. Personally if I were building a 1080p 144Hz gaming build I wouldn't use an i5.
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  19. Yeah. Damn alright. Are you sure it is GPU when my CPU is 100% usage almost all the time in games. No I don't have another g card :)
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  20. Overclock your CPU to 4.4Ghz, it should easily hit that with little effort. If you see a fps increase then I'm right.
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  21. sizzling said:
    The 6600k has a turbo speed of 3.9Ghz so your overclock to 4.0 is negligible. Try going up to 4.4-4.6.

    Now the not nice bit. People throw around an i5 is all you need and an i7 brings little gain. This is not 100% true. In high fps situations where a game is CPU intensive and can use multiple threads an i7 brings significant gains to the minimum and average fps. Max fps is normally unchanged. Personally if I were building a 1080p 144Hz gaming build I wouldn't use an i5.


    I5's can easily get 144Hz, it really doesn't affect FPS at all, just resolutions and things.

    i7's bring little gain in games where extra threads aren't needed, and in most cases that is the truth.

    His i5-6600K will most likely bottleneck the GTX 1080 slightly, but that shouldn't cause the low FPS he is having, he should easily be able to reach the 144Hz target.

    This issue has to come down to the GPU being faulty of some sort, because it is not really anything to do with settings such as VSync and other CPU intensive settings.

    I can back this up by saying, his build is better than mine, which is true, and I play on higher FPS than him.

    And this has only come around from upgrading to the 1080, in which case that is more than likely the issue, not his CPU.

    Although there may be a lot of background processes dragging back the CPU, but even so.

    IF you believe it is the CPU, the i7 would bring little to no performance gain at all.

    What is your CPU usage while idle? Forgot to ask this.

    Edit: Basically no matter what, the CPU with a larger overclock will increase FPS, but only slightly, although as his CPU is at 100% and GPU at 60%, this is a 1080 we're looking at, and the CPU will bottleneck it more than likely.

    The GPU should still allow him to run over 40FPS on maximum settings, this thing runs 4K on 60FPS with either a 6600K overclocked or a 6700K.
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  22. My idle CPU usage is like 5%. So I need to RMA and get a new 1080?
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  23. Sizzling i7 6700k or i7 4790k
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  24. Tacoman98 said:
    My idle CPU usage is like 5%. So I need to RMA and get a new 1080?


    May not be the case, as there can be other things to test beforehand.

    Have you tried other games to see what the performance is like.

    Adding onto my last post, if it was his CPU causing the huge bottleneck, there's people playing it on 1440p with the 6600K and a 1070, so it isn't the case.

    Although it does seem to be the CPU's fault that it is bottlenecking, could you tell me what processes are taking up the most usage while in game?

    CPU Usage while idling is perfectly normal.

    Where is the game installed, have you tried moving it to your SSD and playing it from there if it is on your HDD?

    Could you download CrystalDiskInfo and do a SMART check on your HDD and SSD and see if there's any issues?

    Could you run some basic benchmarks on your GPU/CPU such as 3D Mark or Heaven?

    Edit: Upgrading to the 6700K would simply be a waste of money :)
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  25. sizzling said:
    Overclock your CPU to 4.4Ghz, it should easily hit that with little effort. If you see a fps increase then I'm right.


    Just tried, blue screen after blue screen
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  26. Tacoman98 said:
    sizzling said:
    Overclock your CPU to 4.4Ghz, it should easily hit that with little effort. If you see a fps increase then I'm right.


    Just tried, blue screen after blue screen


    Did you increase the voltage?
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  27. All of the games I play are on my SSD. I do try other games such as Rainbow Six Siege and Battlefield 1, but it is the same on max settings, 50 ish fps. Rainbow runs at 110 avg. with temporal filtering on, but reduces to 50s when I turn on 8x MSAA. CrystalDiskInfo said the health was good. I get 80-100 FPS on Heaven Benchmark with 8x Antialiasing.
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  28. Tacoman98 said:
    All of the games I play are on my SSD. I do try other games such as Rainbow Six Siege and Battlefield 1, but it is the same on max settings, 50 ish fps. Rainbow runs at 110 avg. with temporal filtering on, but reduces to 50s when I turn on 8x MSAA. CrystalDiskInfo said the health was good. I get 80-100 FPS on Heaven Benchmark with 8x Antialiasing.


    Right, its a shame you can't test it on another PC. Will none of your friends or family members let you use theirs if they have one?

    The only thing I would recommend is getting a replacement if all of this is ruling it out, or try going to a different store and seeing if they will test it for you, as the guy you bought it off will be biased and most likely say you've done something wrong.
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  29. xFeaRDom said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    sizzling said:
    Overclock your CPU to 4.4Ghz, it should easily hit that with little effort. If you see a fps increase then I'm right.


    Just tried, blue screen after blue screen


    Did you increase the voltage?


    Oops no, what should I offset it to
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  30. Tacoman98 said:
    xFeaRDom said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    sizzling said:
    Overclock your CPU to 4.4Ghz, it should easily hit that with little effort. If you see a fps increase then I'm right.


    Just tried, blue screen after blue screen


    Did you increase the voltage?


    Oops no, what should I offset it to


    Try 4.4GHz on 1.3V-ish, if not, increase the voltage by 0.025 volts until it is stable.
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  31. Tacoman98 said:
    xFeaRDom said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    sizzling said:
    Overclock your CPU to 4.4Ghz, it should easily hit that with little effort. If you see a fps increase then I'm right.


    Just tried, blue screen after blue screen


    Did you increase the voltage?


    Oops no, what should I offset it to


    Try 4.4GHz on 1.3V-ish, if not, increase the voltage by 0.025 volts until it is stable. I wouldn't recommend going over 1.4V, but I doubt you'll need that for 4.4GHz
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  32. Tacoman98 said:
    All of the games I play are on my SSD. I do try other games such as Rainbow Six Siege and Battlefield 1, but it is the same on max settings, 50 ish fps. Rainbow runs at 110 avg. with temporal filtering on, but reduces to 50s when I turn on 8x MSAA. CrystalDiskInfo said the health was good. I get 80-100 FPS on Heaven Benchmark with 8x Antialiasing.



    really should not be going higher than 4x MSAA, its a fps killer


    also make sure resolution scale is not turned up beyond 42%


    42%=1080p
    50%=1440p
    100%=4K
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  33. xFeaRDom said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    All of the games I play are on my SSD. I do try other games such as Rainbow Six Siege and Battlefield 1, but it is the same on max settings, 50 ish fps. Rainbow runs at 110 avg. with temporal filtering on, but reduces to 50s when I turn on 8x MSAA. CrystalDiskInfo said the health was good. I get 80-100 FPS on Heaven Benchmark with 8x Antialiasing.


    Right, its a shame you can't test it on another PC. Will none of your friends or family members let you use theirs if they have one?

    The only thing I would recommend is getting a replacement if all of this is ruling it out, or try going to a different store and seeing if they will test it for you, as the guy you bought it off will be biased and most likely say you've done something wrong.


    I might have a friend that could test it for me, I will endeavour to do this when I can.
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  34. maxalge said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    All of the games I play are on my SSD. I do try other games such as Rainbow Six Siege and Battlefield 1, but it is the same on max settings, 50 ish fps. Rainbow runs at 110 avg. with temporal filtering on, but reduces to 50s when I turn on 8x MSAA. CrystalDiskInfo said the health was good. I get 80-100 FPS on Heaven Benchmark with 8x Antialiasing.



    really should not be going higher than 4x MSAA, its a fps killer


    also make sure resolution scale is not turned up beyond 42%


    42%=1080p
    50%=1440p
    100%=4K


    What game is this for?
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  35. Tacoman98 said:
    maxalge said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    All of the games I play are on my SSD. I do try other games such as Rainbow Six Siege and Battlefield 1, but it is the same on max settings, 50 ish fps. Rainbow runs at 110 avg. with temporal filtering on, but reduces to 50s when I turn on 8x MSAA. CrystalDiskInfo said the health was good. I get 80-100 FPS on Heaven Benchmark with 8x Antialiasing.



    really should not be going higher than 4x MSAA, its a fps killer


    also make sure resolution scale is not turned up beyond 42%


    42%=1080p
    50%=1440p
    100%=4K


    What game is this for?


    MSAA for both

    resolution scale for BF1


    if you had it set higher than 42% this would explain your fps
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  36. +Tacoman98 "My CPU usage in every gme has been near 100..." Clearly this is why your GPU is underperforming, so now the question is why. Recheck your CPU temps under load with HWMonitor ( http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/hwmonitor_1.30.exe ) just to verify the results of your utility. If they are still at approximately 50 C then the issue isn't temperature.

    Next time, scan for infection with the following two free utilities (below). Save your work because these utilities will automatically close open programs and will possibly reboot your computer. Run ADWCleaner first and when the log text file pops open, simply close it. Then do the same for Combofix, which will give you a slew of prompts about your antivirus application and so forth. Keep clicking "yes" or "ok" to all it's prompts. You'll eventually see a blank text windows with a blue background and blinking white cursor. This means that the program is running and you should let it proceed on it's own.

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/
    <click> Download Now

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/combofix/
    <click> Download Now

    Do me a favor and follow all the steps above, then report back to this thread if the issue is worse, better or the same.
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  37. rcald2000 said:
    +Tacoman98 "My CPU usage in every gme has been near 100..." Clearly this is why your GPU is underperforming, so now the question is why. Recheck your CPU temps under load with HWMonitor ( http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/hwmonitor_1.30.exe ) just to verify the results of your utility. If they are still at approximately 50 C then the issue isn't temperature.

    Next time, scan for infection with the following two free utilities (below). Save your work because these utilities will automatically close open programs and will possibly reboot your computer. Run ADWCleaner first and when the log text file pops open, simply close it. Then do the same for Combofix, which will give you a slew of prompts about your antivirus application and so forth. Keep clicking "yes" or "ok" to all it's prompts. You'll eventually see a blank text windows with a blue background and blinking white cursor. This means that the program is running and you should let it proceed on it's own.

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/adwcleaner/
    <click> Download Now

    https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/combofix/
    <click> Download Now

    Do me a favor and follow all the steps above, then report back to this thread if the issue is worse, better or the same.


    Okay so I ran a CPU stress utility, and now that I've Overcolocked to 4.4Ghz, the max temp (over 5 minutes) is now 69 degrees celcius, with an idle temperature of approximately 30 degrees celcius. I found and fixed issues with the AdWareCleaner utility (there were 42 problems found) and I couldn't run ComboFix because of my OS. Doing this gave me the same issue.
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  38. If it helps, the games are contributing to 95+ % of the cpu usage by themselves. Could this mean faulty cpu?
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  39. xFeaRDom said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    My idle CPU usage is like 5%. So I need to RMA and get a new 1080?


    May not be the case, as there can be other things to test beforehand.

    Have you tried other games to see what the performance is like.

    Adding onto my last post, if it was his CPU causing the huge bottleneck, there's people playing it on 1440p with the 6600K and a 1070, so it isn't the case.

    Although it does seem to be the CPU's fault that it is bottlenecking, could you tell me what processes are taking up the most usage while in game?

    CPU Usage while idling is perfectly normal.

    Where is the game installed, have you tried moving it to your SSD and playing it from there if it is on your HDD?

    Could you download CrystalDiskInfo and do a SMART check on your HDD and SSD and see if there's any issues?

    Could you run some basic benchmarks on your GPU/CPU such as 3D Mark or Heaven?

    Edit: Upgrading to the 6700K would simply be a waste of money :)


    The games themsleves are contirbuting to 95% + cpu usage.
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  40. Tacoman98 said:
    xFeaRDom said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    My idle CPU usage is like 5%. So I need to RMA and get a new 1080?


    May not be the case, as there can be other things to test beforehand.

    Have you tried other games to see what the performance is like.

    Adding onto my last post, if it was his CPU causing the huge bottleneck, there's people playing it on 1440p with the 6600K and a 1070, so it isn't the case.

    Although it does seem to be the CPU's fault that it is bottlenecking, could you tell me what processes are taking up the most usage while in game?

    CPU Usage while idling is perfectly normal.

    Where is the game installed, have you tried moving it to your SSD and playing it from there if it is on your HDD?

    Could you download CrystalDiskInfo and do a SMART check on your HDD and SSD and see if there's any issues?

    Could you run some basic benchmarks on your GPU/CPU such as 3D Mark or Heaven?

    Edit: Upgrading to the 6700K would simply be a waste of money :)


    The games themsleves are contirbuting to 95% + cpu usage.


    if it's not throttling, then it could also be the cpu is stuck at idle speeds


    check that your cpu is ramping up to 4ghz

    cpuz:


    http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

    what speed is your cpu running at? leave cpuz open run a game then alt tab out and check it


    is it running at 4ghz?
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  41. maxalge said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    xFeaRDom said:
    Tacoman98 said:
    My idle CPU usage is like 5%. So I need to RMA and get a new 1080?


    May not be the case, as there can be other things to test beforehand.

    Have you tried other games to see what the performance is like.

    Adding onto my last post, if it was his CPU causing the huge bottleneck, there's people playing it on 1440p with the 6600K and a 1070, so it isn't the case.

    Although it does seem to be the CPU's fault that it is bottlenecking, could you tell me what processes are taking up the most usage while in game?

    CPU Usage while idling is perfectly normal.

    Where is the game installed, have you tried moving it to your SSD and playing it from there if it is on your HDD?

    Could you download CrystalDiskInfo and do a SMART check on your HDD and SSD and see if there's any issues?

    Could you run some basic benchmarks on your GPU/CPU such as 3D Mark or Heaven?

    Edit: Upgrading to the 6700K would simply be a waste of money :)


    The games themsleves are contirbuting to 95% + cpu usage.


    if it's not throttling, then it could also be the cpu is stuck at idle speeds


    check that your cpu is ramping up to 4ghz

    cpuz:


    http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

    what speed is your cpu running at? leave cpuz open run a game then alt tab out and check it


    is it running at 4ghz?



    I am at 4.4GHz now but yeah, it definetely reaches this mark in game. I turned thermal throttling off a while ago.
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  42. Quick question, what is reference clock, and should it be set to 100 MHz?
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  43. My BIOS tells me conflicting information. As seen in the first post of this thread, I have an ASRock Pro4 /D3 MOBO. In the overclocking tab, every time it says max clock is 3.5 GHz. But then i click the multiplyer, which is set to 44, and press enter, and then the max clock says 4.4GHz. However, then I go to the Advanced CPU configuration tab, and it says that the max clock speed is 3.5 GHz, and it doesn't change. Another thing, I'm not sure if I am overclocking correctly in this BIOS, because I keep blue screening and having to change the overclock back to 4GHz rather than 4.4GHZ. Is the voltage I need to change called VCore Voltage? I use the Intel Extreme Tunign utility while on the computer, which lets me achieve my 4.4GHz overclock, however, I then blue screen after about 5 minutes.
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  44. I had the same problem, uncheck vsync, triple buffering in graphic card driver settings
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