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Gtx 970 fx 8350 970a-g43 motherboard 8gb ram performance issues in games

So i have asked this question alot "Why is my pc not capable of running the games it should with max settings except for hairworks and stuff. And recently when i played cs:go I dipped to 23fps in like 10 seconds alot of times in the match, and thats just really annoying and same with far cry 3 i have frame drops etc and the witcher 3 i'm very certain that i should be able to run that game on ultra settings with v-sync and hairworks turned off at a somewhat stable 60fps, but i dip to around 30 sometimes even when theres not alot going on. Can anyone tell me what i can do to fix this because its really annoying.
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    Double-check to make sure you're not having some overheating issues. In addition to checking your CPU & GPU temps, there are apparently some issues with the VRMs on your MSI board overheating:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2586135/vrm-heating-issues-msi-970a-g43.html

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1769932/solve-vrm-heating-problem-msi-970a-g43.html

    If you have any available spots built into the case, you may want to add a couple more case fans to improve the air flow.
  2. spdragoo said:
    Double-check to make sure you're not having some overheating issues. In addition to checking your CPU & GPU temps, there are apparently some issues with the VRMs on your MSI board overheating:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2586135/vrm-heating-issues-msi-970a-g43.html

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1769932/solve-vrm-heating-problem-msi-970a-g43.html

    If you have any available spots built into the case, you may want to add a couple more case fans to improve the air flow.


    Forgot to say somethings: I have a hyper 212 evo cooler, a very shitty bitfenix nova case i only think i can fit 1 more fan but my mobo only has 2, 4 pin connecters for my fans and ive allready added 1 fan so i have none left and most people just say i need to get a better board :) thanks for the reply, but im most likely not going to get those heat sinks etc got any suggestions though for good around 80 dollar mobo for fx 8350?
  3. spdragoo said:
    Double-check to make sure you're not having some overheating issues. In addition to checking your CPU & GPU temps, there are apparently some issues with the VRMs on your MSI board overheating:

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2586135/vrm-heating-issues-msi-970a-g43.html

    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1769932/solve-vrm-heating-problem-msi-970a-g43.html

    If you have any available spots built into the case, you may want to add a couple more case fans to improve the air flow.


    And would the better motherboard help all framedrops etc?
  4. Definitely a new board , the g43 can't handle an 8350 at all.

    Ud3p
    http://

    & yes it should stop those drops straight away.
  5. madmatt30 said:
    Definitely a new board , the g43 can't handle an 8350 at all.

    Ud3p
    http://

    & yes it should stop those drops straight away.


    thanks so much means alot. But they dont have that in our country would this do the same? https://www.komplett.no/product/868500/datautstyr/hovedkort/amd-socket/gigabyte-ga-970-gaming-socket-am3
  6. Not as good quality as the ud3p on vrm setup & voltage regulation

    BUT

    Yes, it'll do the job & is a huge step up from your current MSI board mate.
  7. madmatt30 said:
    Not as good quality as the ud3p on vrm setup & voltage regulation

    BUT

    Yes, it'll do the job & is a huge step up from your current MSI board mate.


    Is this is https://www.proshop.no/Hovedkort/GIGABYTE-GA-970A-UD3P-rev-10-Hovedkort-AMD-970-AMD-Socket-AM3-ny-socket-DDR3-RAM-ATX-/2424366?utm_source=prisjakt&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pricesite

    Found that in Norway but wasnt sure because the box looked like some motherboard from a school computer (Like my one)

    But some people have said i should save up and sell the mobo and cpu i got now and buy intel stuff would that be a good call, even though i just bought my pc and im on a very tight budget?

    And is there a huge difference from the rev 2 and the rev 1 edition and wich one should i get?

    Lol Sorry im such a plague. Wich should i get out of the 3 i have shown you https://www.komplett.no/product/759848/datautstyr/hovedkort/amd-socket/asus-m5a97-r20-socket-am3# This one is a bit cheaper then the 2 others
  8. Either of the gigabytes mate IMO.
    I use the ud3p myself & am running an 8320@4.5ghz with no problems at all.

    Yes an Intel setup is better but that's going to cost you a lot of money !!

    The 8350+gtx 970 is a solid combo for gaming, its just unfortunateyou made a bad choice originally buying that cheap MSI board.
  9. madmatt30 said:
    Either of the gigabytes mate IMO.
    I use the ud3p myself & am running an 8320@4.5ghz with no problems at all.

    Yes an Intel setup is better but that's going to cost you a lot of money !!

    The 8350+gtx 970 is a solid combo for gaming, its just unfortunateyou made a bad choice originally buying that cheap MSI board.


    I bought a bundle that my advicer said was a VERY AWESOME deal and that i had to get it (used) and ok thanks

    Oh and people are saying that the Website i was about to order the ud3p is a bit sketchy and weird and i know for a fact that the other motherboards website isnt so what should i go with is there that much of a difference?
  10. Speezquick said:
    madmatt30 said:
    Either of the gigabytes mate IMO.
    I use the ud3p myself & am running an 8320@4.5ghz with no problems at all.

    Yes an Intel setup is better but that's going to cost you a lot of money !!

    The 8350+gtx 970 is a solid combo for gaming, its just unfortunateyou made a bad choice originally buying that cheap MSI board.


    I bought a bundle that my advicer said was a VERY AWESOME deal and that i had to get it (used) and ok thanks

    Oh and people are saying that the Website i was about to order the ud3p is a bit sketchy and weird and i know for a fact that the other motherboards website isnt so what should i go with is there that much of a difference?



    so you bought the pc used already built??
    I cant imagine its ever really worked properly then mate - the g43 is possibly the worst am3+ board there is.

    & yes komplett are a respectable seeler here in the uk too,I dont blame you for wanting to stick with them

    bothe the asus m5a97 & 970 gaming are decent boards,if you want to save a bit of money the asus board will do the job.
  11. madmatt30 said:
    Speezquick said:
    madmatt30 said:
    Either of the gigabytes mate IMO.
    I use the ud3p myself & am running an 8320@4.5ghz with no problems at all.

    Yes an Intel setup is better but that's going to cost you a lot of money !!

    The 8350+gtx 970 is a solid combo for gaming, its just unfortunateyou made a bad choice originally buying that cheap MSI board.


    I bought a bundle that my advicer said was a VERY AWESOME deal and that i had to get it (used) and ok thanks

    Oh and people are saying that the Website i was about to order the ud3p is a bit sketchy and weird and i know for a fact that the other motherboards website isnt so what should i go with is there that much of a difference?



    so you bought the pc used already built??
    I cant imagine its ever really worked properly then mate - the g43 is possibly the worst am3+ board there is.

    & yes komplett are a respectable seeler here in the uk too,I dont blame you for wanting to stick with them

    bothe the asus m5a97 & 970 gaming are decent boards,if you want to save a bit of money the asus board will do the job.


    Haha no i bought used gpu used mobo used ram used cpu and rest new so yes kinda i did but i built it myself. And did you mean you couldnt image that anything worked properly in the first place?

    And this motherboard is Gigabyte and they sell it for same price as the asus one would it be a better call then? https://www.komplett.no/product/805456/datautstyr/hovedkort/amd-socket/gigabyte-ga-970a-ds3p-socket-am3
  12. The asus is better than the ds3p so stick with the Asus if you want to save a bit of money
  13. madmatt30 said:
    The asus is better than the ds3p so stick with the Asus if you want to save a bit of money


    My gpu usage was going from 60 to 99 in like spikes and same with my cpu while playing far cry 3. Will the motherboard fix that even thought the gpu is spiking too? and the idle gpu temperature is 50 degreese now
  14. madmatt30 said:
    The asus is better than the ds3p so stick with the Asus if you want to save a bit of money


    I delayed the purchase of the motherboard because my dad was lazy and then this happend http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3176155/low-3dmark-score-gtx-970-8350.html
  15. madmatt30 said:
    The asus is better than the ds3p so stick with the Asus if you want to save a bit of money


    I did intel burn test and i ran witcher 3 and i dropped down to 1.4 ghz all the time in burn test and witcher I dont think the mobo helped
  16. madmatt30 said:
    The asus is better than the ds3p so stick with the Asus if you want to save a bit of money


    And i didnt find out how to turn off turbo boost thingy
  17. madmatt30 said:
    The asus is better than the ds3p so stick with the Asus if you want to save a bit of money


    And i didnt find out how to turn off turbo boost thingy
  18. madmatt30 said:
    The asus is better than the ds3p so stick with the Asus if you want to save a bit of money


    https://gyazo.com/ec3e78d439c003f6fa20ee111b91f0c1 I trusted u on that motherboard
  19. madmatt30 said:
    The asus is better than the ds3p so stick with the Asus if you want to save a bit of money


    https://gyazo.com/ec3e78d439c003f6fa20ee111b91f0c1 I trusted u on that motherboard
  20. Which motherboard have you actually bought?
  21. madmatt30 said:
    Which motherboard have you actually bought?


    Msi 970 gaming
  22. Is overdrive showing the CPU clock as 1400mhz ALL the time , even on desktop etc.
  23. madmatt30 said:
    Is overdrive showing the CPU clock as 1400mhz ALL the time , even on desktop etc.


    No no its when i run intel burn test it drops down to 1400mhz sometimes and then it stays there for a while.
  24. boot into bios,open the oc settings tab,disable turbocore.
    save ,reboot ,try again.

    that board should not throttle.unless your cpu temps are not good under full load.
  25. madmatt30 said:
    boot into bios,open the oc settings tab,disable turbocore.
    save ,reboot ,try again.

    that board should not throttle.unless your cpu temps are not good under full load.


    Can u add me on skype or discord would be way easier to communicate name is Speezquick#8992 on Discord and jonaslangeseter on skype
  26. madmatt30 said:
    boot into bios,open the oc settings tab,disable turbocore.
    save ,reboot ,try again.

    that board should not throttle.unless your cpu temps are not good under full load.


    I guess not. But i didnt manage to save the changed settings in the Bios
  27. madmatt30 said:
    boot into bios,open the oc settings tab,disable turbocore.
    save ,reboot ,try again.

    that board should not throttle.unless your cpu temps are not good under full load.


    I did intel burn test again and i reached -3.2 thermal margin and 72 degreese celsius for like a split second and then a little while after it dropped down to 1400mhz and the temps went down to 40 for like 5 seconds then the mhz went back up to 4000 with turbo clock thingy and the temps went up to around 60-65 average.

    This was after around 5 mins of intel burn test
  28. The issue is down to CPU temps then NOT the board.
    What cooler are you using ?? Case , case airflow etc.

    I will add you on Skype when I get home but I'm away for the weekend.
  29. madmatt30 said:
    The issue is down to CPU temps then NOT the board.
    What cooler are you using ?? Case , case airflow etc.

    I will add you on Skype when I get home but I'm away for the weekend.


    Cooler is good. Hyper 212 evo so nothing wrong there, but the case im using, its the bitfenix nova not very good airflow and small place so the fan i added a while a go doesnt do anything because its blocked my the hdd and all the psu cables. 2 fans 1 in the front exhaust or something and the other in the back something else (I know they are in the right positions btw) Btw its really hard to move the fan up 1 slot because i have to remove the hdd and gpu and do some really wierd stuff to get to it. Never mind not enough space.
  30. you honestly have cooling issues mate

    are you 100% sure those fans are configured correctly in the case??
    the front fan should be an intake,the rear fan should be an exhaust.

    Get a piece of tissue paper .,hold it over the fans to determine airflow - the fron t fan should be bringing air into the case ,the rear fan should be blowing it out.

    Evo 212? shouldn't see less than a 15c thermal margin under a stress test on a 8350 ( assuming room temps are 26c or lower)
    is it fitted with the fan next to the ram?? if not it should be.
    Did you clean cpu & heatsink,& reapply paste when refitting to the new board??
  31. madmatt30 said:
    you honestly have cooling issues mate

    are you 100% sure those fans are configured correctly in the case??
    the front fan should be an intake,the rear fan should be an exhaust.

    Get a piece of tissue paper .,hold it over the fans to determine airflow - the fron t fan should be bringing air into the case ,the rear fan should be blowing it out.

    Evo 212? shouldn't see less than a 15c thermal margin under a stress test on a 8350 ( assuming room temps are 26c or lower)
    is it fitted with the fan next to the ram?? if not it should be.
    Did you clean cpu & heatsink,& reapply paste when refitting to the new board??




    Yes i cleaned it but it was a little sketchy there were some small stains left on the heatspreader on the cooler (I hope i got that right) And there was some on the sides of the cpu and the guy who helped me said dont just take a little pea of paste then he made like an X
  32. you honestly have cooling issues mate

    are you 100% sure those fans are configured correctly in the case??
    the front fan should be an intake,the rear fan should be an exhaust.

    Get a piece of tissue paper .,hold it over the fans to determine airflow - the fron t fan should be bringing air into the case ,the rear fan should be blowing it out.
    tryed again and its actually really hard to tell the paper gets sucked into the fan immediatly when i put it inside the case and gets blown away when outside lol but not by much
    Evo 212? shouldn't see less than a 15c thermal margin under a stress test on a 8350 ( assuming room temps are 26c or lower)
    is it fitted with the fan next to the ram?? if not it should be.
    Did you clean cpu & heatsink,& reapply paste when refitting to the new board??


    [/quotemsg

    Turned on fan speed on max and lol the back fan was blowing in to the case can i just turn it around?
  33. madmatt30 said:
    you honestly have cooling issues mate

    are you 100% sure those fans are configured correctly in the case??
    the front fan should be an intake,the rear fan should be an exhaust.

    Get a piece of tissue paper .,hold it over the fans to determine airflow - the fron t fan should be bringing air into the case ,the rear fan should be blowing it out.

    Evo 212? shouldn't see less than a 15c thermal margin under a stress test on a 8350 ( assuming room temps are 26c or lower)
    is it fitted with the fan next to the ram?? if not it should be.
    Did you clean cpu & heatsink,& reapply paste when refitting to the new board??




    So got any solutions?
  34. Tried to add you on Skype mate , would not find you in search at all.

    You turned the back fan around now ?? That will make a big difference to CPU temps - would have been fighting with the evo 212 fan.
    Is your front fan blowing into the case??

    Case airflow should always be like this



    Evo should always be fitted fan next to the ram.

    If you have a bottom grill in the case for the psu, the psu fan should always be fitted downwards so its isolated from the system.
  35. madmatt30 said:
    Tried to add you on Skype mate , would not find you in search at all.

    You turned the back fan around now ?? That will make a big difference to CPU temps - would have been fighting with the evo 212 fan.
    Is your front fan blowing into the case??

    Case airflow should always be like this



    What is ur name on skype i can add u I will say its speezquick. And i didnt move the fan around because it was like that when i got the case and i actually couldn tell where it was blowing air on the second test because the tissue paper got sucked into the fan when it was inside of the case. And it got like Kinda blown away when outside

    Evo should always be fitted fan next to the ram.

    If you have a bottom grill in the case for the psu, the psu fan should always be fitted downwards so its isolated from the system.




    What is ur name on skype i can add u I will say its speezquick. And i didnt move the fan around because it was like that when i got the case and i actually couldn tell where it was blowing air on the second test because the tissue paper got sucked into the fan when it was inside of the case. And it got like Kinda blown away when outside
  36. madmatt30 said:
    Not as good quality as the ud3p on vrm setup & voltage regulation

    BUT

    Yes, it'll do the job & is a huge step up from your current MSI board mate.


    Im running the witcher 3 and it's at a very stable 30 fps even when 4000mhz at high settings without hairworks and decreased shadows, this is really wierd
  37. madmatt30 said:
    Tried to add you on Skype mate , would not find you in search at all.

    You turned the back fan around now ?? That will make a big difference to CPU temps - would have been fighting with the evo 212 fan.
    Is your front fan blowing into the case??

    Case airflow should always be like this



    Evo should always be fitted fan next to the ram.

    If you have a bottom grill in the case for the psu, the psu fan should always be fitted downwards so its isolated from the system.




    This would be a good case right? But i really dont want to spend anymore money atleast in a year so i hope there are other things i can do to decrease cpu temps
  38. madmatt30 said:
    Tried to add you on Skype mate , would not find you in search at all.

    You turned the back fan around now ?? That will make a big difference to CPU temps - would have been fighting with the evo 212 fan.
    Is your front fan blowing into the case??

    Case airflow should always be like this



    Evo should always be fitted fan next to the ram.

    If you have a bottom grill in the case for the psu, the psu fan should always be fitted downwards so its isolated from the system.




    I went to BIOS and turned up the speed of 212 and look at these idle temps! https://gyazo.com/24b41918aa093d649b4263277dd1df4c
  39. madmatt30 said:
    Tried to add you on Skype mate , would not find you in search at all.

    You turned the back fan around now ?? That will make a big difference to CPU temps - would have been fighting with the evo 212 fan.
    Is your front fan blowing into the case??

    Case airflow should always be like this



    Evo should always be fitted fan next to the ram.

    If you have a bottom grill in the case for the psu, the psu fan should always be fitted downwards so its isolated from the system.


    Heeeey i need help, why am i so stupid im like the stupidest twelve year old ever. I decided to overclock my cpu a little because it was running at very low stable temps so i overclocked to 4.4 because my freeking advisor said it was ok, but he KNEW little about oc so i watched a vid he said add 0.14 voltage so i did, and i saved and exited my computer didnt turn on checked the power on buttons connection with the mobo, and that FIXED the power on button so all the parts turned on, but the leds on my moose was flashing my screen didnt turn on had no signal and my keyboard didnt light up, i have tryed repluggin ram checking the power cables and other cables, tryed cleaning out dust kinda, and erstattes the computer many times , btw allll components turn on, so now i Wonder is there a way i can fis this or have i lost the Oc lottery. And brunt my cpu or mobo?

  40. Little switch undermeath the big 24 pin power connector.
    Turn the PC off , flick the switch the other way , turn it back on.
    See if it boots.
  41. Little switch undermeath the big 24 pin power connector.
    Turn the PC off , flick the switch the other way , turn it back on.
    See if it boots.[/

    What is ur skype name
  42. madmatt30 said:
    Little switch undermeath the big 24 pin power connector.
    Turn the PC off , flick the switch the other
    way , turn it back on.
    See if it boots.


    No didnt bot i allready tried the slow switch bud can u Maybe tell me ur skype name if u are Okay talking to strangers
  43. madmatt30 said:
    Little switch undermeath the big 24 pin power connector.
    Turn the PC off , flick the switch the other way , turn it back on.
    See if it boots.


    I FIXED it booting was about to install Windows but i had to turn my computer on and off alot because of i had to change my Flash drive from UEFI to sata to make it work, but when i turned on my computer my parts turned on for 1 second when i gave it power and then turned off for 2 seconds. And i have checked all power cables and all other cables have tryed to clear the BIOS again didnt fix anything. So im stuck please help
    Btw i did something really dumb not so long ago when putting in the gpu i scratched my mobo little bit on the side (over some circuit Lines if im correct.) but the red LED goes past the scratches so i hope its Another issue. Read online that one guy had same problem and it was a bent cpu pin Even though he hadn't touched his cpu for 2 years but i dont think thats my problem so i only wanna check if that is the only option Left (cuz so boring to clean paste etc) oh and the guy who helped me build my pc took alot of paste on my cpu so it has froze mid air outsid of the heatsink (spilles over on sides but non has dropped i dont think)
  44. madmatt30 said:
    Little switch undermeath the big 24 pin power connector.
    Turn the PC off , flick the switch the other way , turn it back on.
    See if it boots.


    Please reply if u have the time.
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