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Chkdsk is stuck in a endless loop, at 10%. HDD failing? Win 8.1

Seagate HDD 3TB 7200rpm, Barracuda.

So three days ago, I have been getting a lot of 'Watchdog' and 'Kernal Data Input Error.' BSOD's out of nowhere, everything was fine just a few days ago. They are related to both HDD and RAM based memory I think.

So now it BSODs, and I try to run 'cmd /f /r /x' as admin but after a restart it is now looping forever.

Both of my drives have had a horrible history (my SSD in particular...) of needing to power cycle. The past three days, after leaving my computer and coming back a few hours later the HDD is no longer in the 'Computer' menu of Windows 8.1 (explorer.exe). This has happened 3 times now, signalling it just 'dies' or something.

So I checked the Sata and power (ide???) cable from the psu, and 1. The psu POWER cable wasn't plugged in. How was it even spinning? I think it was spinning, but now I'm not sure. The Sata cable was straight up broken, bits of the cable literally got stuck in the 'port' on the HDD but luckily came out with a light pull. I will find a new sata cable, but for now I'm using the one from my CD player and it still isn't working (with psu power, ofc.) It is spinning, I feel it. Should I try another SATA port on my mobo?

I saw 'press any key to skip chkdsk within 1 second' but I hit it 20-40 times PER SECOND and nothing happens, it just continues anyways.

IS there any way to skip this? I d g a f about the drive, but I N E E D the passwords on the drive (bad idea, I know). I can't lose my 2.5k steam account ;_;

Thanks guys! Long post, I know. But detailed!

Side note: Probably unrelated, but after swapping the cables out and testing, the screen is now red. It looks like there is a display issue, since the lines seem malformed. Picture included, but probably a video cable issue.

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  1. How are all of your cables breaking? Do you have rats in your computer?

    I have never had a SATA cable break. Never had a power cable come out without me pulling on it real good.

    With all the problems you seem to be having, rats and a bad power supply are the first two things I suspect.
  2. MarkW said:
    How are all of your cables breaking? Do you have rats in your computer?

    I have never had a SATA cable break. Never had a power cable come out without me pulling on it real good.

    With all the problems you seem to be having, rats and a bad power supply are the first two things I suspect.


    ROFL no rats xD I think the psu is fine, it's an 800w Gold 'Coolermaster silent' or something but it is gold rated efficiency.

    It is four years old, but how could it power my gpu, but NOT my hdd? OR is that not what you meant?

    Yeaaaa I have no idea how they came unplugged, but I guarantee not critters/pets got to it. Maybe Larry Hyrb visited me one night, to tried and sabotage another pc in attempts to kill another master race system.
  3. Last I read, your video was red... which doesn't sound normal. Nor does power and sata cables gaining the smarts to undo themselves.

    Ok, so if we eliminate the rats, the ghosts in the night, the broken sata cable and the magically unplugged power cable, we are left with a weird red screen and a locked up check disk stuck at 10%.

    Hard drive failure is something that can happen almost instantly. If for some reason the heads that read and write the data to the platters in your hard drive ever come in contact with that surface, they tend to gouge up tiny little bits of the platter, which in the itty bitty spaces that exist between the heads and the surfaces of the platters tend to look more like boulders, and each and every time a head slams into one of those tiny little pieces of debris, they chew up more platter space and so on and on... Very rapidly, the hard drive reaches a point where it is completely destroyed.

    If that is what has happened, then my guess is that the damage is already done. If I were in your shoes, I would unplug that drive, get a new one, plug in the new one and get it all setup to do whatever you need it to do, and then power down, attach the old drive you are now running check disk on, and see if anything on it can be seen, and if it can be, try to copy it off. I do not know that you will find anything, but either way, I think you need a new hard drive, new sata cable and a dumber power cable that cannot disconnect itself. Might even want to call out ghostbusters to clear your space... LOL
  4. Best answer
    Have you moved the case around a bunch?

    Has it not been closed properly, and thus the cable gets caught between 2 of the case parts? I say this because I used to have a computer that closed real funny. If I didn't move cables around, they would get caught up in between two sections of the case and nearly break. The same thing could be happening to you.

    Try taking out each stick of RAM, and then putting them back in again. Also, you can take them out one at a time to see if an individual stick went bad.

    As for the SATA cable breaking, all I can come up with is that you got a REALLY bad cable that was manufactured horrible.

    Try using another power cable from your PSU. It could just be the individual cable that doesn't latch right.
  5. MarkW said:
    Last I read, your video was red... which doesn't sound normal. Nor does power and sata cables gaining the smarts to undo themselves.

    Ok, so if we eliminate the rats, the ghosts in the night, the broken sata cable and the magically unplugged power cable, we are left with a weird red screen and a locked up check disk stuck at 10%.

    Hard drive failure is something that can happen almost instantly. If for some reason the heads that read and write the data to the platters in your hard drive ever come in contact with that surface, they tend to gouge up tiny little bits of the platter, which in the itty bitty spaces that exist between the heads and the surfaces of the platters tend to look more like boulders, and each and every time a head slams into one of those tiny little pieces of debris, they chew up more platter space and so on and on... Very rapidly, the hard drive reaches a point where it is completely destroyed.

    If that is what has happened, then my guess is that the damage is already done. If I were in your shoes, I would unplug that drive, get a new one, plug in the new one and get it all setup to do whatever you need it to do, and then power down, attach the old drive you are now running check disk on, and see if anything on it can be seen, and if it can be, try to copy it off. I do not know that you will find anything, but either way, I think you need a new hard drive, new sata cable and a dumber power cable that cannot disconnect itself. Might even want to call out ghostbusters to clear your space... LOL


    Aspiring techie said:
    Have you moved the case around a bunch?

    Has it not been closed properly, and thus the cable gets caught between 2 of the case parts? I say this because I used to have a computer that closed real funny. If I didn't move cables around, they would get caught up in between two sections of the case and nearly break. The same thing could be happening to you.

    Try taking out each stick of RAM, and then putting them back in again. Also, you can take them out one at a time to see if an individual stick went bad.

    As for the SATA cable breaking, all I can come up with is that you got a REALLY bad cable that was manufactured horrible.

    Try using another power cable from your PSU. It could just be the individual cable that doesn't latch right.



    Hurrah for hours of testing! :) The case is completely open on one side, and I sometimes move the case around, but not more than a few feet usually.

    Edit: You mean one of the other ports on the power cable? OR a new cable entirely?
  6. If that's the case (no pun intended), then we can probably eliminate the option that moving the case caused the cable to jiggle loose.

    Leaving the case open probably isn't a good idea. That could be your culprit, at least with the SATA cables. Something might have gotten in there or something hit it and caused the damage you were describing.

    With the check disk looping at 10%, it could be the result of you bad HDD. If it's going bad, then maybe the data for checking the disk has gone bad with it, causing it to not check itself correctly. If you can, hook up the HDD to another computer with a good HDD, and boot from the good HDD. Run check disk off of that.

    As for the cable, I meant another port on the PSU.
  7. Aspiring techie said:
    If that's the case (no pun intended), then we can probably eliminate the option that moving the case caused the cable to jiggle loose.

    Leaving the case open probably isn't a good idea. That could be your culprit, at least with the SATA cables. Something might have gotten in there or something hit it and caused the damage you were describing.

    With the check disk looping at 10%, it could be the result of you bad HDD. If it's going bad, then maybe the data for checking the disk has gone bad with it, causing it to not check itself correctly. If you can, hook up the HDD to another computer with a good HDD, and boot from the good HDD. Run check disk off of that.

    As for the cable, I meant another port on the PSU.


    So I tried another sata cable, different mobo sata port, entirely different sata power cable, and a different 6 pin port on my PSU. Also, 1 stick of ram. No fix, how would I attach my HDD to my laptop, it's not like it has a sata power or sata data port readily available :P How?

    My main computer (one with the problems) has an e-sata port, whatever that means. I don't know how it works. Could I install my Win 8 copy to my SSD, then use the e-sata port to 'TRY' and recover data?

    OR is just adding the device after install better?

    Another related question... the SSD w/ win 8 wont boot into win 8 by itself... it's because the HDD was plugged in or something when installing ( I THINK! ), and now they are both 'connected' and need each other... like husband and wife. But the SSD is the husband of course, w/ the os on it.

    IS that just how windows is designed, and would installing win on 256gb ssd alone, then adding a 3tb later cause problems?
    thanks... and sorry for complicating things. My head is spinning with potential solutions. Once you give me a go, I'll install win 8 again. (With the hdd plugged in, or not?)

    Edit: I have a 1tb portable HDD somewhere around, it has a usb 3.0 port, I think, Maybe I can use this? Don't Really care about RPMs and I suspect it is 5400.

    Could I just pull off the shroud? It is a normal hdd underneath w/ power/data sata, yes?

    Or should I use 3.0 usb forever? Any bottlenecks for gaming or general usage w/ that?
  8. Nope. Nope. Nope. I'm done, I'm moving to Africa and starting my own country in the sea without technology.

    I 'fixed' it.

    Just as I was about to unplug the HDD and get ready to reinstall windows on my SSD, it just 'fkn LOADS. 'Gotcha nerd!'

    Little stinker tricked me, it was never sick it just wanted attention.

    Anyways, in all seriousness I have NO idea what fixed it lmao.

    It probably isn't fixed, so I'm making a backup on my SSD of important files :D

    Yaaaaay, ~~ I aint frayda no ghost ~~

    I have learned a lesson today. Ghost are real, and Larry Hyrb hates PC gamers. Also, I learned how fat and lazy I am, since I STILL wont manage my cables LOL. NOPE.
  9. You forgot to call Ghostbusters... :p

    OK, trying to answer some of the questions you asked earlier...

    Yes, you can install Windows to am SSD and boot from it. My system only has an SSD (1TB) in it. No hard drive. If you do install windows to the SSD, just update the boot order in the BIOS so the machine knows which drive to boot from. I generally set my DVD to be the first device, and the hard drive or SSD to be the second one. I leave the rest of the drives off of that list. Windows will find them, but it will not be booted from them this way.

    You can mix SSD's and hard drives at any time. As long as there is another SATA plug for one. Everything gets treated like a hard drive. Just try to use the SATA ports in the order the system numbers them, and finding out how they are numbered might take some experimenting if the info is not specified in your motherboard manual.

    Inside of an external drive is a SATA drive, just like the ones in your system. It will go though a SATA to USB adapter, and that is why it connects as a USB 3.0 device. The drive inside that external case is most likely 5400 RPM, and might be SATA II, but none of that matters. It will work on any SATA port, but will be just a bit slow since its only likely to be 5400 RPM. I would remove it from the enclosure unless there was some reason you needed that enclosure for some purpose.

    USB 3.0 is faster than USB 2.0, but slower than SATA III. USB 3.0 is probably enough bandwidth for it. Test it and see what you think. If it will read at 70mb/s, you are probably lucky... I would expect it could easily be slower than that.
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