OC i5 4690K with hyper 212 evo

Hello!

I have now oc'ed my i5 4690k to 4.2GHz with 1.16 core voltage. I have tried 4.4GHz at 1.24 core voltage is it normal that i need to change that much? but also is there anyway i can get it stable at 4.4GHz with the hyper evo 212? cause the temps just go skyhigh with 4.4 and if i lower the core voltage it just blue screens...

Motherboard: MSI Z87 G55
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  1. Skyhigh how? What are your temps at 4.2 and 4.4ghz?
  2. Undying89 said:
    Skyhigh how? What are your temps at 4.2 and 4.4ghz?


    My temps at 4.2 is 40 idle and around 60-70 when i run p95 with 4.4 it is 80-90 and sometimes over 90 in p95
  3. That is high, idle and load temps. Haswell tend to be hot just like Ivy. My Sandy at 4.8Ghz is getting lower temps, lol.

    Anyway, try reset the heatsink and maybe some better thermal paste. You can add another cooler on 212 for push-pull.
  4. Undying89 said:
    That is high, idle and load temps. Haswell tend to be hot just like Ivy. My Sandy at 4.8Ghz is getting lower temps, lol.

    Anyway, try reset the heatsink and maybe some better thermal paste. You can add another cooler on 212 for push-pull.


    how do i reset the heatsink? and i use Noctua NT-H1 thermal paste, could it be i took too much? and i have been thinking of adding another cooler on the 212
  5. Nah, thats a good paste idk why your temps are that high. Adding another cooler wont help as much, only way is try reducing voltages little more.
  6. Undying89 said:
    Nah, thats a good paste idk why you temps are that high. Adding another cooler it wont help as much, only way is try reducing voltages little more.


    at cpu-z it shows 1.157 core voltage, does that mean that is the lowest possible at 4.2?

    also i think i might have taken too much thermal paste
  7. Some of it depends on your ambient temps. That will affect the entire system. My 4690k oc'd to 4.2ghz on the 212 evo is running at 33-34c at 25% usage across all 4 cores with an ambient of 24.5c (76F). The voltage is at 1.1v. No voltages were changed, just bumped the multiplier to 42.

    Sandy bridge should be getting lower temps, it's a 32nm die vs the 22nm die of the devil's canyon. The further die's shrink, the more temps spike at higher overclocks. That's just physics and can't be avoided with the trends of advancing tech.
  8. The 212 evo might start to hit it's limitations around 4.2-4.4ghz. That's a decent overclock on a cheap cooler. If looking to go higher and avoid heat issues, you should consider a better cooler. The 212 evo is respectable and recommended because it's able to dissipate quite a bit of heat - for it's cost and size. Not in the larger scheme of things where bigger coolers like the phanteks dual tower 140mm, noctua nh-d14/15, cryorig r1, thermalright true spirit 140 power etc are concerned. They can handle the higher heat loads of more serious overclocks, but you're talking a $30 cooler vs $80-90 coolers (aside from the ts 140p which beats even the nh-d14 for about $54 so long as your case will fit it).
  9. Ok now my pc wont recognize graphic card neither will the graphics on my moba work either tried with 2 different screens...
  10. Have you tried resetting the bios just to make sure its back to factory settings? Try removing the cmos battery, wait a few minutes then put it back in. Then try booting and see if that doesn't fix your video issue. One of your video sources should work, either the integrated intel graphics via the vga connector on the motherboard or the gpu card. Is the bios screen showing up at all? On either monitor? If not, you may have a bad motherboard (provided fans and things are spinning, making sure your mobo is getting power and attempting to post).
  11. All fans power up and stuff
  12. I have taken out the cmos battery and plugged it in again nothing has changed
  13. synphul said:
    Some of it depends on your ambient temps. That will affect the entire system. My 4690k oc'd to 4.2ghz on the 212 evo is running at 33-34c at 25% usage across all 4 cores with an ambient of 24.5c (76F). The voltage is at 1.1v. No voltages were changed, just bumped the multiplier to 42.

    Sandy bridge should be getting lower temps, it's a 32nm die vs the 22nm die of the devil's canyon. The further die's shrink, the more temps spike at higher overclocks. That's just physics and can't be avoided with the trends of advancing tech.


    Hi, synphul,

    Just wanted to pop in and add a few items to your comments. Concerning 32nm vs 22nm, another major difference in thermal behavior is that 32nm has a soldered IHS.

    Also, concerning Prime95 temperatures:

    Core i 2nd, 3rd and 4th Generation CPU's have AVX (Advanced Vector Extension) instruction sets. Recent versions of Prime95 run AVX code on the Floating Point Unit (FPU) math coprocessor, which produces unrealistically high temperatures. The FPU test in the software utility AIDA64 shows the same results.

    Prime95 v26.6 produces temperatures on 3rd and 4th Generation processors more consistent with 2nd Generation, which also have AVX instructions, but do not suffer from thermal extremes due to having a soldered Integrated Heat Spreader and a 35% larger Die.

    Thanks,

    CT :sol:
  14. True, which is why when I was running thermal testing I ran v26.6 with small fft's (as per the intel oc guide for haswell). Either way a 212 evo isn't designed to handle high thermal loads and I think all things considered haswell isn't really a 'hot' chip. If it were built in the same package as the sandy bridge, then that might be true but it is slightly different. The addition of the math co processors isn't helping the situation but even without if you place the same size heater in a smaller physical space it will heat it up quicker. Just seems to be the going trend (aside from gpu's which are sticking with 32nm until it becomes cost effective to shrink further), making things smaller and smaller. At some point there won't be much overhead for oc'ing regardless the way the trends are running. Then again, ocing an old 1ghz chip to 1.8 nearly doubled it's speed. The equivalent in newer cpu's would be going from stock 3.5 to nearly 7ghz or more which is completely unrealistic so the perceived gains are much less due to scaling now than they used to be.
  15. So basicly i can just refund my i5 4690k and my moba and get a 1155 moba since i have a i5 2500k with no oc laying around somewhere and the temps will go low? Anyways my pc wont recognize my screen anymore so lol tried two different even with moba nothing works lol
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