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Overclocking Cpu For the first time!

Hi, I would to learn and how to overclock my cpu

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-hd 5450
- Intel core duo E7400 2.80ghz now clock to 3.5ghz and temp was down 60 and having (game crashes and pc goes to blue screen of death when gaming)

Thank you !
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  1. Crashing typically means your overclock is not stable. This occurs because when booting windows and running small tasks such as browsing the internet your cpu isn't being pushed. However in game play the cpu is often being ran harder causing it to crash. Did you change your vcore at all? If so what was it before and after? Did you stress test? What cooler are you using?
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  2. alpacino2368 said:
    Crashing typically means your overclock is not stable. This occurs because when booting windows and running small tasks such as browsing the internet your cpu isn't being pushed. However in game play the cpu is often being ran harder causing it to crash. Did you change your vcore at all? If so what was it before and after? Did you stress test? What cooler are you using?




    im using stock cooler with some dust and i dint put silicon paste . but im goin to buy it tomorrow. what is vcore? btw im going to buy some extra fans and going to clean up and put some silicon up. but why is always crashes and what is vcore?Did me stress test? nope.
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  3. Mohd Azylee said:
    alpacino2368 said:
    Crashing typically means your overclock is not stable. This occurs because when booting windows and running small tasks such as browsing the internet your cpu isn't being pushed. However in game play the cpu is often being ran harder causing it to crash. Did you change your vcore at all? If so what was it before and after? Did you stress test? What cooler are you using?




    im using stock cooler with some dust and i dint put silicon paste . but im goin to buy it tomorrow. what is vcore? btw im going to buy some extra fans and going to clean up and put some silicon up. but why is always crashes and what is vcore?Did me stress test? nope.

    I dont mean to come off as rude but you need to do a little more research before you overclock or you risk destroying your cpu. My recommendation is to undo the changes you made and watch a step by step youtube video on what to do.

    New thermal paste and fans will only reduce temps, they wont make your overhead stable.

    Vcore is the amount of power running to your cpu. For the most part if you want to overclock you must increase the vcore to make it stable, however be warned because increasing the vcore too much will increase cpu heat killing the chip slowly and increasing the vcore way to much will kill it instantly.

    Please watch a video, you cant overclock without knowing what stress testing is.
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  4. do have facebook. cuz i want you to teach me live. thanks
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  5. Mohd Azylee said:
    do have facebook. cuz i want you to teach me live. thanks


    I dont have the same cpu as you so I cant show you off "facebook". Just watch a youtube video or search google for a guide. Good luck.
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  6. how teach me im on bios now
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  7. Mohd Azylee said:
    how teach me im on bios now


    Im not gonna do the work for you sorry, you gotta teach yourself and do the work yourself, or bring it to someone in your city to overclock for you and pay for it.
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  8. alpacino2368 said:
    Mohd Azylee said:
    do have facebook. cuz i want you to teach me live. thanks


    I dont have the same cpu as you so I cant show you off "facebook". Just watch a youtube video or search google for a guide. Good luck.


    my vcore max is 1.240v how is it?
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  9. Mohd Azylee said:
    alpacino2368 said:
    Crashing typically means your overclock is not stable. This occurs because when booting windows and running small tasks such as browsing the internet your cpu isn't being pushed. However in game play the cpu is often being ran harder causing it to crash. Did you change your vcore at all? If so what was it before and after? Did you stress test? What cooler are you using?




    im using stock cooler with some dust and i dint put silicon paste . but im goin to buy it tomorrow. what is vcore? btw im going to buy some extra fans and going to clean up and put some silicon up. but why is always crashes and what is vcore?Did me stress test? nope.


    Did you follow a guide on how to overclock your processor or did you just use a program or your bios to overclock it? Overclocking never should be done with a stock cooler, also are you sure the stock cooler didnt already have thermal compound on it? They usually come with compound pre applied. Buy a cpu cooler, NEVER overclock that heavily with stock, stock isnt designed to handle any kind of overclock higher than maybe .1 Ghz . Vcore stands for voltage core, when you overclock you have to allow more voltage to your processor, it depends though, if youre using an auto overclocking utility in your bios i dont think you need to worry about it
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  10. Iankiller99 said:
    Mohd Azylee said:
    alpacino2368 said:
    Crashing typically means your overclock is not stable. This occurs because when booting windows and running small tasks such as browsing the internet your cpu isn't being pushed. However in game play the cpu is often being ran harder causing it to crash. Did you change your vcore at all? If so what was it before and after? Did you stress test? What cooler are you using?




    im using stock cooler with some dust and i dint put silicon paste . but im goin to buy it tomorrow. what is vcore? btw im going to buy some extra fans and going to clean up and put some silicon up. but why is always crashes and what is vcore?Did me stress test? nope.


    Did you follow a guide on how to overclock your processor or did you just use a program or your bios to overclock it? Overclocking never should be done with a stock cooler, also are you sure the stock cooler didnt already have thermal compound on it? They usually come with compound pre applied. Buy a cpu cooler, NEVER overclock that heavily with stock, stock isnt designed to handle any kind of overclock higher than maybe .1 Ghz . Vcore stands for voltage core, when you overclock you have to allow more voltage to your processor, it depends though, if youre using an auto overclocking utility in your bios i dont think you need to worry about it



    I'm overclocking with bios.
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  11. You really should do some research online before "jumping" into the world of overclocking. If you don't learn the basics of how things are done/need adjusted you can become easily overwhelmed. If you start playing w/ voltages that you don't understand what you're doing, you can easily fry or at least partially damage components in your computer. You need to know what settings you should adjust with your particular motherboard/cpu combo. The settings change a little to a lot with each generation of INTEL/AMD Processors. Just some quick browsing will get your started. I could be more helpful with software and settings to use, but I would feel somewhat responsible if I gave you the quick & easy method and you ended up damaging your computer. Once you learn a bit on your own about what your getting into, come back here and I'm sure people would be willing to help.
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  12. 1LiquidPC said:
    You really should do some research online before "jumping" into the world of overclocking. If you don't learn the basics of how things are done/need adjusted you can become easily overwhelmed. If you start playing w/ voltages that you don't understand what you're doing, you can easily fry or at least partially damage components in your computer. You need to know what settings you should adjust with your particular motherboard/cpu combo. The settings change a little to a lot with each generation of INTEL/AMD Processors. Just some quick browsing will get your started. I could be more helpful with software and settings to use, but I would feel somewhat responsible if I gave you the quick & easy method and you ended up damaging your computer. Once you learn a bit on your own about what your getting into, come back here and I'm sure people would be willing to help.


    nice , thanks I'll do some research then i will ask if i have any problem..
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  13. in my bios i dont found vcore adjust place. my vcore was 1.240 at 3.5 clock i think the vcore to low?

    here the pic of in bios and other..







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  14. 1LiquidPC said:
    You really should do some research online before "jumping" into the world of overclocking. If you don't learn the basics of how things are done/need adjusted you can become easily overwhelmed. If you start playing w/ voltages that you don't understand what you're doing, you can easily fry or at least partially damage components in your computer. You need to know what settings you should adjust with your particular motherboard/cpu combo. The settings change a little to a lot with each generation of INTEL/AMD Processors. Just some quick browsing will get your started. I could be more helpful with software and settings to use, but I would feel somewhat responsible if I gave you the quick & easy method and you ended up damaging your computer. Once you learn a bit on your own about what your getting into, come back here and I'm sure people would be willing to help.


    in my bios i dont found vcore adjust place. my vcore was 1.240 at 3.5 clock i think the vcore to low?

    here the pic of in bios and other..







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  15. any one?
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  16. Do you know what the brand and model motherboard that you have? Also, remember when your adjusting your cpu speed with your E7400 processor, it will adjust your ram speed as well. What is the actual rated speed of your ram?
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  17. 1LiquidPC said:
    Do you know what the brand and model motherboard that you have? Also, remember when your adjusting your cpu speed with your E7400 processor, it will adjust your ram speed as well. What is the actual rated speed of your ram?


    yes that one! ratio dram . but why vcore adjust was not on my g41m p33 combo.. were is it??
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  18. You should download CPU-Z and run the program to see what your actual ram modules are rated at before adjusting settings further, then you can narrow down whether it's your cpu speed or your dram speed that could be affecting stability. This is where the dram ratios come into play later. Take pics if neccesary.
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  19. Did some more quick research and you may be somewhat out of luck. It so happens that your motherboard does NOT allow you to change the vcore. You can adjust the FSB speed which you've been doing to try to get to 3.5Ghz, but you cannot raise or lower the vcore voltage. FSB x Multiplier is how your CPU speed is derived. You can try to disable Intel EIST and C1E support as those will dynamically adjust your CPU speed based on load and adjust power savings, sleep states, ect. These options can affect overclocking stability when turned on. Without knowing right now what your ram speed is rated at for stock speeds, I can't say whether you need to adjust your FSB/DRAM ratio. If disabling EIST and C1E doesn't help, try lowering your setting "Adjust CPU Base Frequency" from 334 to 324. This would lower your speed to 3.4 Ghz instead of 3.5. This may be more stable since the voltage would be the same and you can't change that. For stability, try some gaming first and report back what happens.
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  20. 1LiquidPC said:
    Did some more quick research and you may be somewhat out of luck. It so happens that your motherboard does NOT allow you to change the vcore. You can adjust the FSB speed which you've been doing to try to get to 3.5Ghz, but you cannot raise or lower the vcore voltage. FSB x Multiplier is how your CPU speed is derived. You can try to disable Intel EIST and C1E support as those will dynamically adjust your CPU speed based on load and adjust power savings, sleep states, ect. These options can affect overclocking stability when turned on. Without knowing right now what your ram speed is rated at for stock speeds, I can't say whether you need to adjust your FSB/DRAM ratio. If disabling EIST and C1E doesn't help, try lowering your setting "Adjust CPU Base Frequency" from 334 to 324. This would lower your speed to 3.4 Ghz instead of 3.5. This may be more stable since the voltage would be the same and you can't change that. For stability, try some gaming first and report back what happens.


    I found it. it has
    1:1.25
    1:1.50
    1:1.67
    1:2.00
    1:1.00
    1:1.20

    which one?

    and I disabled the intel eist and I get 10.5
    and disabled too the c1e .
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  21. You'll have to be running CPU-z in Windows to read the information. 10.5 is your CPU multiplier. What your listing is the actual dividers. But we need to know the speed of the sticks to pick the correct divider. Since we don't know for sure, try these ones to be safe. Also, did you try lowering your CPU base frequency from 334 to 324 yet?? Your screenshots above show it at 334. I would still try this first and check for stability. For the dividers, I would try 1:1.20. This would make your ram run at 800Mhz rather than 837.
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  22. 1LiquidPC said:
    You'll have to be running CPU-z in Windows to read the information. 10.5 is your CPU multiplier. What your listing is the actual dividers. But we need to know the speed of the sticks to pick the correct divider. Since we don't know for sure, try these ones to be safe. Also, did you try lowering your CPU base frequency from 334 to 324 yet?? Your screenshots above show it at 334. I would still try this first and check for stability. For the dividers, I would try 1:1.20. This would make your ram run at 800Mhz rather than 837.


    i do what u say. and its stable.. but i wanted at 3.5 ghz.

    here some pic of cpuz and the bios settings



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  23. I'm glad to hear you got things stable :) But what your asking may simply not be possible. You might need more voltage to get 3.5 stable which you cannot do. Your motherboard in your computer doesn't allow you to change the voltage at all. Since your not stable at 3.5 and you seem to be stable at 3.4, that might be as high as you can go. Only a few more things to try. Can you click on the SPD tab in the CPU-Z program and take a picture of that. That will tell us your actual rated ram speed. In the mean time, if you want you can try changing the 324 number a few higher and keep checking stability. Even though 3.5 isn't stable, 3.49 might be. In other words, instead of 324, try 326. If that is stable, try bumping up to 328. If that's stable try 330, ect. until it becomes unstable. Then we'll see where were at.
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  24. 1LiquidPC said:
    I'm glad to hear you got things stable :) But what your asking may simply not be possible. You might need more voltage to get 3.5 stable which you cannot do. Your motherboard in your computer doesn't allow you to change the voltage at all. Since your not stable at 3.5 and you seem to be stable at 3.4, that might be as high as you can go. Only a few more things to try. Can you click on the SPD tab in the CPU-Z program and take a picture of that. That will tell us your actual rated ram speed. In the mean time, if you want you can try changing the 324 number a few higher and keep checking stability. Even though 3.5 isn't stable, 3.49 might be. In other words, instead of 324, try 326. If that is stable, try bumping up to 328. If that's stable try 330, ect. until it becomes unstable. Then we'll see where were at.



    okay. here the cpuz at spd tab



    i have only one ram btw. 2gb
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  25. It looks like your running your ram a good bit higher than spec as it's only rated at 667mhz stock. I would change your FSB/DRAM from 1:1.20 to 1:1.00. It looks like your overclocking your ram too, which MAY be why you can't run at 3.5 ghz. One your switch this number, trying switching the CPU Base Frequency back to 334 again and see if things are any more stable. If that doesn't work, trying going to 332, 330, 328...ect. Each time check for stability.
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  26. 1LiquidPC said:
    It looks like your running your ram a good bit higher than spec as it's only rated at 667mhz stock. I would change your FSB/DRAM from 1:1.20 to 1:1.00. It looks like your overclocking your ram too, which MAY be why you can't run at 3.5 ghz. One your switch this number, trying switching the CPU Base Frequency back to 334 again and see if things are any more stable. If that doesn't work, trying going to 332, 330, 328...ect. Each time check for stability.


    stable
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  27. Everything running good now? Were you able to get 3.5 Stable by lowering the RAM speed? If so, glad to hear it :)
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  28. 1LiquidPC said:
    Everything running good now? Were you able to get 3.5 Stable by lowering the RAM speed? If so, glad to hear it :)


    Oh no.. I play f1 2013 with time like 35 min or even more . my pc jammed up and making a loop sound... yes. still not stable.

    what do you thing? its it? temperature ? or clocking problem?
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  29. I would try lower of overclock a bit, it still sounds like your trying get a little to high
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  30. 1LiquidPC said:
    I would try lower of overclock a bit, it still sounds like your trying get a little to high

    how much?
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  31. Are you running at 3.5 again? If so, maybe try 3.45, then 3.4, 3.35 and so on until the problem disappears. This is if it's the voltage causing it. What are your reading for temperature using the program Coretemp for example? Is your system using the OEM Intel heatsink/fan assembly?
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  32. 1LiquidPC said:
    Are you running at 3.5 again? If so, maybe try 3.45, then 3.4, 3.35 and so on until the problem disappears. This is if it's the voltage causing it. What are your reading for temperature using the program Coretemp for example? Is your system using the OEM Intel heatsink/fan assembly?


    running on 3.31ghz. stable.. any how to stay at 3.5ghz without any problemS?
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  33. It's not looking likely. Were you able to get any temp readings using Coretemp or Realtemp? If it's voltage related as to why 3.5 isn't stable(most likely reason), there isn't any other way to go to get stability at that speed.
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  34. 1LiquidPC said:
    It's not looking likely. Were you able to get any temp readings using Coretemp or Realtemp? If it's voltage related as to why 3.5 isn't stable(most likely reason), there isn't any other way to go to get stability at that speed.


    Default temp was 45 down.. gaming? i will check it out
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  35. 1LiquidPC said:
    It's not looking likely. Were you able to get any temp readings using Coretemp or Realtemp? If it's voltage related as to why 3.5 isn't stable(most likely reason), there isn't any other way to go to get stability at that speed.


    when im gaming cpu temp. was 75 down. its it ok? gpu temp was 70 down too.
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  36. Temps don't look bad if your referring to 75C on the CPU and 70C on the GPU. A little warm on the CPU, but you are now overclocked, so it's going to heat up a bit. Still looks like a lack of voltage to get any faster to me.
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  37. 1LiquidPC said:
    Temps don't look bad if your referring to 75C on the CPU and 70C on the GPU. A little warm on the CPU, but you are now overclocked, so it's going to heat up a bit. Still looks like a lack of voltage to get any faster to me.


    so we need to increase the voltage?
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  38. Best answer
    Yes, more than likely it's looks like it's a voltage problem, but your out of luck. Your motherboard will in no way allow you to add voltage to your CPU. You would have to change out the motherboard itself, which is a whole other story. I think it's best if you just stick with 3.3ghz, which I believe you mentioned was stable.
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  39. 1LiquidPC said:
    Yes, more than likely it's looks like it's a voltage problem, but your out of luck. Your motherboard will in no way allow you to add voltage to your CPU. You would have to change out the motherboard itself, which is a whole other story. I think it's best if you just stick with 3.3ghz, which I believe you mentioned was stable.


    thanks dude. ur the best. but i just bought this motherboard. btw. leave it 3.3 ghz. its ok . thanks again mate.
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  40. No Problem, Mohd Azylee. Glad to help :) Plus I'm sure you learned some of this OC'ing stuff along the way.
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  41. 1LiquidPC said:
    No Problem, Mohd Azylee. Glad to help :) Plus I'm sure you learned some of this OC'ing stuff along the way.


    can we . continue my problem?

    i wanted to reach 4 ghz...

    i was at 3.5 ghz. and keep crashing . or driver has stopped and other error.

    any solutions???

    i don't thing so its a voltage problem...

    i saw someone using same cpu like me (e7400) clocked at 4 ghz at 1.350V. . So do I ?
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  42. Did you get a new motherboard for your computer? Even if other people can use 1.35 and get 4 ghz doesn't guarantee that you'll be able too. It's a lottery of sorts when it comes to overclocking. If your using the same setup as before, you'll still going to be stuck at your current 3.3ghz for stability. From your earlier screenshots, your running at 1.24V. If you haven't changed out your motherboard to a different "overclock friendly" model, there is no way to increase the voltage to 1.35.
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  43. 1LiquidPC said:
    Did you get a new motherboard for your computer? Even if other people can use 1.35 and get 4 ghz doesn't guarantee that you'll be able too. It's a lottery of sorts when it comes to overclocking. If your using the same setup as before, you'll still going to be stuck at your current 3.3ghz for stability. From your earlier screenshots, your running at 1.24V. If you haven't changed out your motherboard to a different "overclock friendly" model, there is no way to increase the voltage to 1.35.


    Ohh. ok I understand. but we are overclock cpu and RAM. ram was 600 that. default is 800. if we increase it will it help overclocking cpu? i know my mother board is not overclocking friendly
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  44. 1LiquidPC said:
    Did you get a new motherboard for your computer? Even if other people can use 1.35 and get 4 ghz doesn't guarantee that you'll be able too. It's a lottery of sorts when it comes to overclocking. If your using the same setup as before, you'll still going to be stuck at your current 3.3ghz for stability. From your earlier screenshots, your running at 1.24V. If you haven't changed out your motherboard to a different "overclock friendly" model, there is no way to increase the voltage to 1.35.


    did overclocking my RAM with helping my cpu to overclock? or is it increase my performance?
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  45. ok it does not. thanks for help anyway.
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  46. No problem. If you have any other questions. Just ask :)
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  47. 1LiquidPC said:
    No problem. If you have any other questions. Just ask :)


    i just bought a new ram it was 2gb 800mhz ram. will that me in overclocking? current ram ratio was 1.1:00 maybe,
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  48. Do you know which specific ram "kit" that you purchased? Can you post a picture of the memory section of CPU and your current BIOS settings where your ratio is?
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  49. 1LiquidPC said:
    Do you know which specific ram "kit" that you purchased? Can you post a picture of the memory section of CPU and your current BIOS settings where your ratio is?


    I'm Really sorry for late reply . so here the kingston my my old ddr2 2gb ram and the team is my new ddr2 2 gb ram

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    will the new ram TEAM will help me overclocking?
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