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4 June 2013 21:19:14

Hello Toms, I am looking to upgrade my CPU having just installed a new GPU. Can you give me some advice on the best for my system and money. My stats:

CURRENT CPU - AMD Phenom X3 8750+Black Edition (2.4GHz) 95W

System: Dell XPS 625 alien
OS: Win Vista 32-bit HomePremium
Usage: Gaming, applications (photos, flashplayer movies, docs, music)
Current GPU - HD 7850 Sapphire 11200-14-20G OC Sapphire Card (2GB, GDDR5)
Current Power Supply - Model: Dell H750E-01, Max Wattage 750W

Mobo - ??Not sure, serial number is "E139765" which relates to a "Bluford" according to Google
PCIe.2.0 compatible
Memory - 4GB (maxed)
Monitor resolution - current 1024x768, optimum 1280x1024


I have been thinking about an AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE which is apparently good value and available for around £60 now.

I presume an AMD is best since so is my GPU and for the AM2+ socket. They are also cheaper.
How do the FXs compare ? (6xxx / 8xxx series)
Also how do I address the cooling issue, apparently AMD CPUs get very heated.

Thank you

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4 June 2013 21:43:22

Hi I have an fx4100 and its ok but most would recomend the phenom 965 over it .

Also if your using a phenom ii it sounds like you've got an am3 board so if you go for an fx get the 6300 its available on ebay for just over £100 and if your not overclocking the stock cooler will do fine.

If you'd want to sort heat issuses tho make sure your case is well ventillated and get an aftermarket cooler like a coolermaster 212 evo.
4 June 2013 22:38:16

I just checked what you put down as your mobo is an intel socket for an old celeron?

Check with cpu-z you can get it free online to check and just thought is it the phenom 1 or 2 you currently have as if its 1 then a new mobo would be needed
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5 June 2013 05:57:50

TripleFix said:
Hello Toms, I am looking to upgrade my CPU having just installed a new GPU. Can you give me some advice on the best for my system and money. My stats:

CURRENT CPU - AMD Phenom X3 8750+Black Edition (2.4GHz) 95W

System: Dell XPS 625 alien
OS: Win Vista 32-bit HomePremium
Usage: Gaming, applications (photos, flashplayer movies, docs, music)
Current GPU - HD 7850 Sapphire 11200-14-20G OC Sapphire Card (2GB, GDDR5)
Current Power Supply - Model: Dell H750E-01, Max Wattage 750W

Mobo - ??Not sure, serial number is "E139765" which relates to a "Bluford" according to Google
PCIe.2.0 compatible
Memory - 4GB (maxed)
Monitor resolution - current 1024x768, optimum 1280x1024


I have been thinking about an AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE which is apparently good value and available for around £60 now.

I presume an AMD is best since so is my GPU and for the AM2+ socket. They are also cheaper.
How do the FXs compare ? (6xxx / 8xxx series)
Also how do I address the cooling issue, apparently AMD CPUs get very heated.

Thank you


OK, lets recap all possible solutions for this situation, and I will count confirmed solutions. Remember we are dealing here with Dell, so general rules do not apply here, since Dell engineered its BIOS and included support for certain processors, and the unfortunate part, no one really knows which CPUs are included in BIOS support, that is why everyone who suggest CPU upgrade here need to provide a proof of their suggestions.

XPS 625 motherboard model is p927g, there are actually 2 motherboards used, another one is R569N. Below shown p927g





Specifications:

6 x USB Ports
5 x Audio Ports
2 x PS2 Ports
FireWire Port
RJ-45 (LAN)
eSATA Port

This is XPS 625 with the side panel off



Now about CPU upgrades with proof of work.

I found confirmation of AMD Phenom II X2 560 3.3GHz Socket AM3 installed in XPS 625 and working!

Quote:
I listened a bought and i tried....i tried out the AMD PHENOM II BLACK EDITION X2 560 AM3. on the xps 625. it even opened the other 2 cores.


This came from here http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3...

This is Black Edition processor, and as such is overclockable! I know how! This is not done in BIOS! Regular overclocking rules do not apply here!

So right now there is a question, should OP upgrade CPU, would it bring serious jump in performance?!
This is already installed AMD Phenom 8750 Triple-Core CPU benchmark is 2071
This is maximum confirmed Phenom II X2 560 benchmark is 2161, however according to above user he was able to unlock 2 more cores, so benchmark would increase.
Now, both processors can be overclocked - so which one is better, performance vs money spent?

AMD Phenom II X4 940 (3.0 GHz) Quad-Core Processor - I am speechless, this is serious upgrade! :bounce: :pt1cable: 

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Dell-XPS-625-Phenom-II-G...

Here is eBay link with XPS 625 + HDZ940XCJ4DGI (Phenom II X4 940) processor, which is another proof of work http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-P927G-XPS-Motherboard-AM...

Now, the only places I could find for now on eBay
£49.03 + £5.88 postage http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-940-3-GHz-Qu...
£68.00 + Free Postage http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-940-Quad-Cor...

Unless someone else will come up with another idea with proof of work, I think this is it.

Phenom II x4 965 BE might work or not, this is complete guess. If it could be purchased somewhere with return possibility, I would try it.
Just remember, you are installing AM3 CPU on AM2+ board, so it will limit specifications. Would BIOS support it , who knows.

So I would not advice on this one, Phenom 940 is already questionable, because Dell used a little different part number

Quote:
Dell part# R568N AMD Phenom 940Z 3.00GHz C2


http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3...

9 June 2013 11:47:20

FIrst, thank you for all your research, I found the Dell thread http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3... and will update it with a link to here.

To confirm via Belarc, my motherboard is an '0PG27G' type as in the pictures above and is AM2+ compatible.
The two things which most interest me are 1, Which is the CPU which best fits my current build ? 2, Will I need to update my BIOS (according to Belarc my current is Dell Inc: 1.0.1, 12/10/2008) given that most advice says not to tamper with it unless something goes wrong.

My upgrades are likely to be piecemeal as I am currently on a budget, so I'm not looking for the ultimate machine, but want to make the best of what I've got. Some more recent articles I found:

http://www.pcguide.com/vb/showthread.php?87557-Needing-...(cpu-mobo-graphics)
http://www.computerforum.com/203655-xps-625-a.html
and for the masochist:
http://forums.yogscast.com/archive/index.php?t-31526.ht...

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12 June 2013 17:07:02

So, where you are standing now? I mean what you are planning, I got confused?
14 June 2013 14:10:01

Sorry,
I am looking for the AMD Phenom 940 (unless I can be convinced there is something compatible that is better). I just need to know if I need to update my BIOS.

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14 June 2013 16:04:57

TripleFix said:
Sorry,
I am looking for the AMD Phenom 940 (unless I can be convinced there is something compatible that is better). I just need to know if I need to update my BIOS.

Thanks


BIOS update in your case is very beneficial.
This is link to general eBay with 940 http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nk...
Unfortunately you are risking that it may not work and I did not see anywhere anymore confirmations. Remember, Dell used similar OEM processor, what is the difference, I have no clue.
I doubt that someone here will come up with something, it has been quiet here for a while.
So?