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Can a Intel Core i7-2700K run a gtx titan!?

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27 March 2013 19:41:12

Alright.. so first and foremost this is all hypothetical. I don't have 1 grand to spend on a GTX titan. But on a side note, any guesses when or IF it will come down in price?

But anyway like the title says my cpu is good i guess. BUT when i look at these youtube videos showing the card off they are using BEAST set ups, like i mean these rampage motherboards and these £800 i7 390something cpus.. :S. I'm assuming that that awesome motherboard and insane cpu would outdo my rig by some framerates? Or is this not the case?

Ouh and would my psu handle it too, here is my stuff;

cpu - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005X55OR6/ref=oh_de...
mobo - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005T3TLM6/ref=oh_de...
psu - http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004O0P9VC/ref=oh_de...

My current graphic card is only a 570, but if they did come down significantly in price i -might- get one for my 18th. But i mean who can afford a 1grand gpu lol? is it just me or is that crazy! - setting me straight on those dozen questions would be obliged guys, cheers!
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27 March 2013 19:46:19

Your board/cpu can run it just fine.
a 2700k is just a slight bit slower then the newer cpus.
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27 March 2013 19:47:39

Its fine no issues at all.

Mactronix :) 
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27 March 2013 19:47:51

Yes your system is perfectly capable of running a gtx titan.
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27 March 2013 19:50:00

Your mobo would need updated, since that would prly bottleneck, since it's only PCI-e 2.0

Ur CPU could use a little OC (which is easy to do) and it would be fine.

Ur PSU is JUST strong enough for it and ur other components.

Those people have crazy expensive setups cause they have the money for a $1K GPU... If you have enough for a GTX Titan, ur not going to buy it to put it in a system with a core2duo... (or even anything AMD for that matter. lol.)
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27 March 2013 19:50:45

They're not going to come down in price. The Titan is NOT a commercial GPU, it's a proof-of-concept that allows nvidia to show off, get good press, and brag about having the fastest single-chip GPU.

It's also an ABSOLUTE waste of money, when two 660tis in SLI can outperform it for $2-400 less.
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27 March 2013 19:51:44

i7-2700k can definitely run the GTX TITAN.

But not on it's full potential. Sandy bridge CPUs doesn't support PCI-E 3.0, which will bottleneck the memory bandwidth a bit.

The difference between PCI-E 3.0 and PCI-E 2.0 on a GTX 680 and a Radeon 7970 is about about 10% and below in actual gaming, however in benchmarks we almost see a 20% difference. Those numbers will be higher on the Titan, as it is a better performing GPU.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/18/pci_express_2... - Review of PCI-E 2.0 vs. PCI-E 3.0
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27 March 2013 19:54:13

mmm..
any system with pcie socket will run this "one grand" graphic card..

Btw, i7 2700k still the one of the finest processor in the market..
don't worry, "another one grand" in the intel cpu line just give you very little performance boost if you compare with your current cpu..

Well, money is money, there's nothing impossible with it..
I do hope that you'll get this "wallet robber" GPU for your 18th..:) 
and don't forget to deliver me one card if you get 2 cards :just kidding:
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27 March 2013 19:54:19

ittimjones said:
Your mobo would need updated, since that would prly bottleneck, since it's only PCI-e 2.0


Even if he bought a new MOBO, then his CPU doesn't allow PCI-E 3.0, so he would need a new CPU and a new MOBO. :) 
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27 March 2013 19:57:01

Twp 660ti's if the prices aren't rip offs are roughly 500 dollars less than a titan, roughly, or half the price of it. You'd only get a titan for triple sli, as quad sli isn't officially supported. In terms of price/performance the titan is one of the worst buys you could get, as three 7950's could be had for the same price, and run on a singular, granted higher end, power supply.
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27 March 2013 19:57:58

Cheers for the knowledge bomb folks, and thanks for that fact about the cpu I had no idea my cpu did not support PCI-E 3.0. Defeats the point in buying a PCI-E 3.0 motherboard lol. And liking the point you made about the motherboards they show'em off with jones haha
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27 March 2013 20:01:44

Gardnersworld1 said:
Cheers for the knowledge bomb folks, and thanks for that fact about the cpu I had no idea my cpu did not support PCI-E 3.0. Defeats the point in buying a PCI-E 3.0 motherboard lol. And liking the point you made about the motherboards they show'em off with jones haha

The PCI-E controller is within the cpu, that is why swapping the board does nothing.

PCI-e 2.0 x16 is not the bottleneck yet anyway.
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27 March 2013 20:05:23

ittimjones said:
Your mobo would need updated, since that would prly bottleneck, since it's only PCI-e 2.0

Ur CPU could use a little OC (which is easy to do) and it would be fine.

Ur PSU is JUST strong enough for it and ur other components.

Those people have crazy expensive setups cause they have the money for a $1K GPU... If you have enough for a GTX Titan, ur not going to buy it to put it in a system with a core2duo... (or even anything AMD for that matter. lol.)


the differences between pci 2.0 and 3.0 are very small unless he is playing at 1600p or higher which considering he has a 570 i dont think he is.

his psu could supply 2 titans and be just fine if it has 4 pcie cables. a 500 watts psu could supply 1.

lostgamer_03 said:
i7-2700k can definitely run the GTX TITAN.

But not on it's full potential. Sandy bridge CPUs doesn't support PCI-E 3.0, which will bottleneck the memory bandwidth a bit.

The difference between PCI-E 3.0 and PCI-E 2.0 on a GTX 680 and a Radeon 7970 is about about 10% and below in actual gaming, however in benchmarks we almost see a 20% difference. Those numbers will be higher on the Titan, as it is a better performing GPU.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/18/pci_express_2... - Review of PCI-E 2.0 vs. PCI-E 3.0


you choose a resolution benchamrk that no one play at. very few people actually play at 2560x1600. that resolution is almost twice the amount of pixels as 1080p so of course its going to show a difference. at 1080p which i suspect the OP and almost everyone else will be gaming at.
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27 March 2013 20:11:24

Well I game at 1920 by 1080, but cheers for cleaning that one up cbrunnem about the psu. ps. - http://i.imgur.com/1zovEgh.png I think my mobo is PCI-E 3.0? but again the cpu wont utilize that or something right?
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27 March 2013 20:22:43

Yes, your board has all the hardware/design to support pci-e 3.0, but requires the cpu(Third generation i series cpus) that has a pci-e 3.0 controller on it.
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27 March 2013 20:32:39

correct.
i7 3770k specs

But again, Unless you are running a very high end dual gpu card, you will not notice the difference.
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27 March 2013 20:34:54

Ouhh... so you would not notice the difference on a titan? SORRY i can not quite get my head around this lol, no wait you would.. I dont get it man, i dont even know what these pci-e slots are to tell you the truth
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27 March 2013 20:42:04

Each version of PCI-e gives more bandwidth, but you need very powerful multi card solutions to actually run out of bandwidth.

I am not saying you may not loose 2-5% with something like GTX Titan, but I do not think it is worth a cpu swap unless you want more then one AND are running some real high resolutions(think 3 screens at once).
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27 March 2013 20:53:26

Ok cheers i appreciate the posts lol so in a nutshell/the bottom line is I would only have to upgrade my cpu for more than one monitor? But at the same time, I would probably get a couple of fps lower than a guy with pci-e 3.0 supported card?
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27 March 2013 21:12:40

THIS:

Why do any of you believe PCI-E 3.0 was made/enabled, if PCI-E 2.0 can run any GPU at its full potential? Here you got the answer - It can't. PCI-E 3.0 is here because GPUs have more bandwidth, than the PCI-E 2.0 can use.



AS you can see here PCI-E 2.0 only takes advantage of 5 GHz memory clock. Almost all the Nvidia Geforce GTX 600 series GPUs has 6.008 GHz (including Titan), so that is a clear bottleneck.
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27 March 2013 21:50:35

I think this will answer your current questions with current technology.

Ivy Bridge PCI-Express Scaling with HD 7970 and GTX 680

Pick the closest to what you play at (1920 x 1200 should be close and check the x16 2.0 vs x16 3.0). Also note this is NOT multi card, it is single card

This covers way more then just 2.0 vs 3.0 but also x4 and 8 at different speeds as well.
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27 March 2013 21:52:48

lostgamer_03 said:
THIS:

Why do any of you believe PCI-E 3.0 was made/enabled, if PCI-E 2.0 can run any GPU at its full potential? Here you got the answer - It can't. PCI-E 3.0 is here because GPUs have more bandwidth, than the PCI-E 2.0 can use.



AS you can see here PCI-E 2.0 only takes advantage of 5 GHz memory clock. Almost all the Nvidia Geforce GTX 600 series GPUs has 6.008 GHz (including Titan), so that is a clear bottleneck.


Cheers mate, damn that's disheartening lol, it just doesn't make sense though, I wish i knew before buying my cpu that because of the cpu I can't use my motherboards PCI-E 3.0 slot, my current asus GTX 570 is in there at the moment - I just don't see how a cpu controls the PCI-E slot, i would have thought the motherboard did that :( 
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27 March 2013 21:57:08

Gardnersworld1 said:
Ouhh... so you would not notice the difference on a titan? SORRY i can not quite get my head around this lol, no wait you would.. I dont get it man, i dont even know what these pci-e slots are to tell you the truth


you will not notice a difference because there is no difference.

lostgamer_03 said:
THIS:

Why do any of you believe PCI-E 3.0 was made/enabled, if PCI-E 2.0 can run any GPU at its full potential? Here you got the answer - It can't. PCI-E 3.0 is here because GPUs have more bandwidth, than the PCI-E 2.0 can use.



AS you can see here PCI-E 2.0 only takes advantage of 5 GHz memory clock. Almost all the Nvidia Geforce GTX 600 series GPUs has 6.008 GHz (including Titan), so that is a clear bottleneck.


you are relying on numbers to do too much thinking and answering for you. reality is more then a bunch of numbers on a chart.

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27 March 2013 22:14:47

Gardnersworld1 said:
lostgamer_03 said:
THIS:

Why do any of you believe PCI-E 3.0 was made/enabled, if PCI-E 2.0 can run any GPU at its full potential? Here you got the answer - It can't. PCI-E 3.0 is here because GPUs have more bandwidth, than the PCI-E 2.0 can use.



AS you can see here PCI-E 2.0 only takes advantage of 5 GHz memory clock. Almost all the Nvidia Geforce GTX 600 series GPUs has 6.008 GHz (including Titan), so that is a clear bottleneck.


Cheers mate, damn that's disheartening lol, it just doesn't make sense though, I wish i knew before buying my cpu that because of the cpu I can't use my motherboards PCI-E 3.0 slot, my current asus GTX 570 is in there at the moment - I just don't see how a cpu controls the PCI-E slot, i would have thought the motherboard did that :( 


That is quite sad yes. However I believe you easily could sell your current CPU at a fair price and get an ivy-bridge CPU. IF you're not going to use hyperthreading as the i7 has, then an i5 would be sufficient. I believe a lot of people even would like to trade their ivy-bridge CPUs with you, because some people need the hyperthreading for editing and also, like you, might have made a trade, which really wasn't what they needed.
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27 March 2013 22:35:06

lostgamer_03 said:
THIS:

Why do any of you believe PCI-E 3.0 was made/enabled, if PCI-E 2.0 can run any GPU at its full potential? Here you got the answer - It can't. PCI-E 3.0 is here because GPUs have more bandwidth, than the PCI-E 2.0 can use.



AS you can see here PCI-E 2.0 only takes advantage of 5 GHz memory clock. Almost all the Nvidia Geforce GTX 600 series GPUs has 6.008 GHz (including Titan), so that is a clear bottleneck.


Thanks man but wow this is grim lol so this - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Generation-i5-3570K-3-40G... that 150 pound cpu is better than the one i spent £300 on for gaming lol. that is so grim... haha
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27 March 2013 22:59:07

Okay so I posted a forum over at the cpu guys and one of them found this awesome article, after this I do not think I am going to buy an ivy bridge http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Ivy_Bridge_PCI...

"The new PCI-Express 3.0 interface can provide around 1% performance boost for both HD 7970 and GTX 680. While this confirms that both cards provide working support for Gen 3, such a small improvement is clearly not worth worrying about. It certainly does not warrant buying a new processor or motherboard. PCI-Express is forward and backward compatible, so any PCI-Express graphics card will work in any motherboard's PCI-Express slot, no matter which version each component supports."
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28 March 2013 01:32:41

That was what I had linked you to above :) 

Been telling you that all along.
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28 March 2013 05:36:00

this lostgamer dude has been feeding you bs the whole time. we tried to tell you otherwise.
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