Is Phenom Really Faster Than Athlon?

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AMD removed the core count suffix X2, X3 and X4 from the logo and changed its nomenclature instead: 9000 models have four cores, while the upcoming triple cores have a 7000 model number.

AMD has had a difficult year. Not only did the long anticipated Phenom processor arrive at considerably lower clock speeds than expected (2.3 GHz instead of 3 GHz), but the current stepping of the so-called Barcelona core is afflicted with a nasty bug. While there are workarounds for it, only an updated stepping will allow AMD to resume quad core processor deliveries in the server segment. The fact that the quad core doesn’t deliver sufficient performance to attack Intel at the high-end doesn’t help either. As a consequence of these problems, AMD has had to readjust its product strategy, and position the processor together with the new Spider platform in the mainstream. Despite all of the issues, though, Phenom isn’t as bad as it may appear, as our comparison between the Phenom and the Athlon 64 X2 shows.

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In fact, AMD has a pretty significant advantage over Intel when it comes to upgrading existing systems with a quad core processor. While Intel has been quick with launching new platforms for each and every new processor generation due to modified requirements, AMD has not changed the specifications for Socket AM2 at all. As a consequence, it is technically possible to deploy a quad core Phenom processor into a Socket AM2 motherboard that has been running an Athlon 64 or Athlon 64 X2 - all you need is a BIOS update. This doesn’t work in every case - some motherboards may not be able to handle the Phenoms’ power requirements of 95 or 125 W - but most enthusiast motherboards can be upgraded from a single or dual core to a quad core processor easily.

The upgrade situation definitely requires some attention, as both AMD and Intel are roughly half a year away from the next significant technology update. AMD will introduce Socket AM3, which will bring with it DDR3 memory, while Intel’s next-generation Nehalem will finally integrate the memory controller with the processor. Knowing this, even the upcoming Core 2 Duo E8000 or Core 2 Quad Q9000 series have to be seen as interim products on the way to the next generation, despite the certainty that these will outperform the existing Core 2 products by roughly 10%.


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dloneranger 19/12/2007 11:32
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Interesting, but by only using one core it doesn't give a decent real world test
I'd have like to have seen a real 'upgrade' comparison, eg divx encoding on an x2 vs phenom to give me some idea if it's worth the money
leexgx 20/12/2007 04:05
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not realy the Point of this test was to show how real world apps perform in Single threded apps

was hopeing anandtech did this but thay used Faster X2 amd chips so there was No point at all included them results unless thay had the same clocked chips as well

and thay have all ready done (or other sites have any way) done divx tests but like i sad before thay needed to inclued same clocked X2 chips as well

untill X4 3ghz cpus are out or can run at it 2.6ghz X4 performs like an 2.7-2.9ghz X2 cpu (apart from when more then 2 cores are used then it smoke all X2 chips no mater what clock speed thay run at, Divix for e.g.)
spuddyt 20/12/2007 12:02
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DAAMIT I'm now in limbo, wanting to upgrade, but not really sure if i should..... (actually i'm pretty sure that I shouldn't)
Wild9 21/12/2007 02:15
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I still maintain these are better products than Intel's C2Q. A real-world testing using heavy multi-tasking would show the benefits of a monolithic design and in a cluster environment this would simply win hands down, since inter-core bandwidth is essential. Intel's offerings concentrate on nstructions per clock - not bandwidth.

8 of these cores when used in a server would blow away Intel; the memory latency and HTT 2.0/3.0 interconnect would be leaps ahead. Intel cannot fit monolithic cores onto a single die as the design is flawed.

When are we gonna see 128-bit SIMD instructions to really show off what this can do?
splodger 08/01/2008 12:29
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I urge you all to check out this review http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/amd_phenom/ on lost circuits and direct you to the multithreading benchmarks F.E.A.R and especially UT3.

All isn't lost for AMD

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