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AMD Fusion: Brazos Gets Previewed: Part 1

AMD Fusion: Brazos Gets Previewed: Part 1
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Today is AMD’s 2010 Financial Analyst Day, and we have some more details on its Fusion APUs. Llano is still a few months away. In the meantime, we have a preview of the Brazos platform, which will voraciously tackle mobility under the $500 price point.

Today is AMD’s 2010 Financial Analyst Day, and we have some more details on its Fusion APUs. Llano is still a few months away. In the meantime, we have a preview of the Brazos platform, which will voraciously tackle mobility under the $500 price point.

According to recent Q3 market share numbers, the perpetual back and forth between AMD and Intel is once again in a state of flux. The larger company is taking substantial chunks of away from AMD in the high-end server market, thanks mostly to the Xeon family's transition to Nehalem-based designs in the 1P, 2P, and MP segments. And we do mean huge, as AMD’s overall server market share fell from ~10% to 6.5% (source: IDC). The Opteron 6000-series is holding its own, but it really isn’t putting up a good enough of a fight to retain its foothold.

This reinforces our belief that the Magny-Cours-based server processors only serve as a temporary placeholder. That product line is meant to hold Intel back until Bulldozer becomes available. This isn’t necessarily a bad strategy, as Q3 was the 4th consecutive quarter that we saw the price paid per CPU rise (Oct. 27th report from Mercury Research), which only helps to advocate AMD’s lower price points.

AMD is doing better in the desktop world, which makes up the largest portion of its CPU portfolio. Comparatively, Intel has a much beefier portion of the notebook market. However, all three market segments have seen some of the slowest per quarter growth (1.9% for Q3), less than a third of the historical numbers. Server sales still outrank desktop, while mobile CPU numbers fall to third place. This disproportionate growth is why AMD saw some mild gains in Q3, as the company's larger desktop CPU foothold helped shore up revenue lost to a slowdown in the mobile market.

Source: IDC, Jon Peddie, Mercury, Intel

Why does this all this matter? We’ve covered much of this information in our manager surveys, but Intel and AMD are both about to throw monkey wrenches into the graphics battle, too. The two companies are on the cusp of unveiling new processor platforms that feature integrated graphics technology. In September, we saw Sandy Bridge at IDF, which will put CPU and graphics processing on a single piece of 32 nm silicon. It is definitely exciting stuff, but Intel's solution is, ironically, facing the unlikely underdog position, as very few industry veterans have much faith in Intel's ability to deliver even mediocre graphics capabilities. Moreover, it is keeping the architecture's fixed-function media encoder close to its chest. Very few folks have seen it in action.

Meanwhile on October 19th, AMD showed off its upcoming Llano APU (Accelerated Processing Unit--the company’s acronym for a CPU/GPU hybrid). 

In general, the real divider for the graphics industry isn't integrated versus discrete. What separates the proverbial men from the boys is performance. It’s the reason every gamer worth their salt cringes when you stick them with an IGP-based platform. Performance is the very reason people complain about high bit rate HD video playback on low-end systems like netbooks.

Historically, IGPs have never approached the low-end discrete space. There's just too much of a power/heat difference between something you stick under a passive heatsink the size of a postage stamp soldered onto a motherboard and the real estate available on even a single-slot add-in card. As a result, those two markets are as divided as oil and water. Intel’s Sandy Bridge architecture and AMD’s Fusion initiative are about bringing in the tide that'll blur this line in the sand.

Remember, Intel has a bigger portion of the graphics pie, thanks to its northbridge-based integrated graphics solutions and more recent HD Graphics engine, built onto the Clarkdale and Arrandale CPUs.

That leaves AMD and Nvidia to duke it out in the discrete graphic space, while Intel watches from its cushy vantage point, not really needing a competitive offering. Even when we were dealing with front-side bus-hobbled CPUs, Intel could always outmode Nvidia, AMD, SiS, and VIA chipsets in sheer sales thanks to price and compatibility. System vendors could always trust an Intel CPU paired to an Intel chipset. This isn’t to say that third-party chipsets didn’t work. However, they often required extra effort on the part of the ODM or OEM. As they say, it's always better to have one throat to choke.

As we start working with more proprietary interconnects like DMI and UMI, Intel and AMD can both deny Nvidia the ability to sell its own compatible chipsets. Particularly now that we no longer need a separate northbridge, the integrated graphics fight is going to be purely AMD versus Intel--that is, until the Delaware courts tell Nvidia otherwise or VIA achieves more than a 1% market share.

As far as graphics performance goes, it's fair to say that Intel has a lot more to prove with Sandy Bridge than AMD does with the upcoming designs in its Fusion program, if only because of the expertise introduced by ATI. Of course, we'll spend more time with Sandy Bridge soon, but today is AMD’s 2010 Financial Analyst day, and so we can finally spill a few beans on what Fusion will mean to year in the months and years to come.

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    mi1ez , 9 November 2010 15:51
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    ...shared memory helps enable lower latencies that integrated graphics processors have ever enjoyed.

    Proof read much?
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    mi1ez , 9 November 2010 17:23
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    how about "Bowie Knife". Jim Bowie took no prisoners and was flat out an awesome Texan to boot, so it would go well with the whole Llano tribute.


    Should've known David Bowie was hoping for too much!
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    Silmarunya , 11 November 2010 04:15
    Intresting. If the claims about IGP performance are true (between 5450 and 5500 in performance), they will have on of the most powerful IGP's ever - Sandy Bridge sits in the same performance spot but is a full fat desktop part with much higher TDP.
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    tranzz , 11 November 2010 14:46
    the analagy of out of order executiion seems a little unfair. With the sandwich analagy better explained as

    in order execution is like going to the bread bin and getting some bread and putting the bread on the plate. Then putting the bread back in its bread bin. Going to the fridge getting the lettuce chopping some off. Returning the lettuce to the fridge.Picking up the tomato taking it to the plate slicing it. Returning it to the fridge etc...

    out of order execution is like planning what order to do things will be quickest so plotting a route round the kitchen picking the bread lettuce and tomato returning to make the sandwich and putting the things away in the most efficient route.

    Both methods make an identicle sandwich. Out of order execution is quicker, but also uses more power (used by the planning curcuitry)