Test Configuration
by
Uwe Scheffel
Tom’s Hardware offers benchmark results for the following graphics cards:
| ATI FireGL/FirePro-series | Nvidia Quadro FX-series |
|---|---|
| ATI FirePro V8700 | |
| ATI FireGL V8650 | Nvidia Quadro FX 5600 |
| ATI FireGL V7700 | Nvidia Quadro FX 4600 |
| ATI FireGL V7600 | Nvidia Quadro FX 1700 |
| ATI FireGL V7300 | Nvidia Quadro FX 5500 |
| ATI FireGL V7200 | Nvidia Quadro FX 4500 |
| ATI FireGL V7100 | Nvidia Quadro FX 3500 |
| ATI FireGL V5600 | Nvidia Quadro FX 570 |
| ATI FireGL V5200 | Nvidia Quadro FX 370 |
| ATI FireGL V3600 | Nvidia Quadro FX 1500 |
| CPU | Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6800 (2.93 GHz) |
|---|---|
| Motherboard | Asus P5W64 WS Pro (rev 1.01, BIOS 0802) with Intel 975X Chipset |
| System memory (RAM) | 4 GB (4 x 1 GB) Corsair XMS2-6400 (CM2X10246400-C3) with CL 4.0-4-4-12 |
| Optical drive | Samsung SH-D163A , SATA150 |
| Power supply | Zalman, ATX 2.01, 510 W |
| Hard disk | Western Digital WD1500ADFD 150 GB |
| OS | Windows XP Service Pack 3 |
|---|---|
| 3D API Update | DirectX 9.0c |
| Intel Chipset drivers | Version 8.3.1.1009 |
| ATI FireGL Drivers | Catalyst 8.453.1-081008 |
| Nvidia Quadro Drivers | Quadro 181.20 + Maxtreme 11 |
| SPEC Benchmarks Settings | Application settings according to SPEC Project Group rules, driver using application optimizations if available |
| SPEC Benchmarks Used | SpecViewperf 10.0 SPECapc 3ds Max 9 (3D Studio Max) SPECapc Solidworks 2007 SPECapc Maya 6.5 |
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Here is something I've always wondered. How does a workstation graphics card handle everyday gaming?
I imagine that its much more effective to purchase multiple gaming GPU's for preformance, but I still wonder.
Om another question, can you load the FirePro drivers for the Radeon, and if so how does it perform with workstation graphics then ??
Having given up on racing for the latest and greatest card for gaming a couple of years ago due to many disappointments and a firm conspiracy theory that game manufacturers are in cohoots with the graphics card industry in order to extract as much cash as they can out of the gaming populace, I’m no surprised to read now that Gaming cards are inferior to professional workstation cards.
However, I do also remember reading somewhere, also a couple of years ago that workstation cards could not handle game graphics!
Why doesn’t somebody just create a decent all round card instead of all this smoke and mirrors?
Firstly, thank you very much for finally putting some hard figures to the difference between the Pro and gaming cards - very interesting. Are these improvements also seen in more specialist and less common application (for example I use EASE acoustic simulation software for work) or are the massive performance gains only for applications where targeted optimisation has occured?
Secondly, I also would be really interested to know how these Pro cards handle gaming.
Guys, the reason for the discrepancies between the mainstream and enterprise adaptors is DRIVERS. Not because a HD4870 (which incidentally is a quarter of the price) is magically "more shit" than the FirePro. And to answer the other query; The FirePro may very well SUCK at gaming. Why? Re-read first sentence. The FirePro drivers are specifically optimised for their intended purpose, and there would be no or minimal attempt to maintain compatibility with, much less optimise performance for, any gaming. It might work, it might work great, it might not, it might not work at all; the driver programmers don't really care as its just not their job.
You only pay extra for the Driver enhancements, there is very little difference between the gaming and workstation cards. Both nVidia and Ati handicap the gaming/desktop drivers so that they can sell the Workstation card at a higher price.
Just goes to show how much performance is being kept from consumers, you spend and spend and all you get is a purposely crippled hardware. Makes you wonder why they even bothering making new cards when they don't even give the full speed of the existing cards.
Therefore would it be possible to flash a HD4870 with the firmware from a FirePro V8700 since it is possible to do so for say a Nvidia 8800GTX too a 8800Ultra (all that changes are the frequencies it tries to run at and its product identity). Therefore the drivers could be fooled into thinking its a pro card
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Anybody with a HD4870 they are prepared to loose?... (should be fixable if it doesnt work)
Therefore would it be possible to flash a HD4870 with the firmware from a FirePro V8700 since it is possible to do so for say a Nvidia 8800GTX too a 8800Ultra (all that changes are the frequencies it tries to run at and its product identity). Therefore the drivers could be fooled into thinking its a pro card
.
Anybody with a HD4870 they are prepared to loose?... (should be fixable if it doesnt work)
Why do people keep on comparing the "Workstation" to the "Gaming" cards?
How about calling them by their *real* names, the cards with proper OpenGL support, and the cards with just DirectX/3D support...
The *real* pity in all of this is that some games and applications actually use OpenGL so that they can be cross platform, and then get nerfed by ATI/nVidia's drivers (or to be correct, lack of correct OpenGL drivers) for the "Gaming" cards.