HDTV Tuner Card and Common Interface – KNC One

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In Europe, HDTV signals are broadcast primarily via satellite and cable, with the former offering a much wider range of programs. Our configuration uses a solution for satellite reception and supports the DVB-S2 standard.

For our purposes, we sought an HDTV-capable PCI tuner card that is DVB-S2 compliant, is downward compatible with standard TV via DVB-S and comes with a connector for a Common Interface (CI) to decrypt Pay TV stations. A remote control is not a must, since our Silverstone case already includes one. An important point in selecting the CI-module was that it should offer the flexibility for front or rear mounting. Many companies still haven’t got the message. A CI-module that can be installed exclusively on the back of a system is only an option for users that rarely switch between Pay-TV smartcards. After all, once the HTPC is set up in the living room, you won’t be able to just swap out the smartcard on the back without some acrobatic feats worthy of a Chinese gymnast. A front-mounting option is much more comfortable and user friendly. The CI module should also ship with a fitting front-panel allowing installation in either a 3.5” or 5.25” drive bay.

Finally, the TV tuner card should also use a BDA driver (Broadcast Driver Architecture) to simplify its integration with DVB software. We found the KNC One TV-Station DVB-S2 and the companion CI module KNC One CineView to be the most suited to out purposes, as it fulfils all of our requirements. If you’d like to enjoy the luxury of watching a programme while recording a movie broadcast on another transponder, you can always buy two TV tuner cards. Another option is using one DVB-S2 (satellite) and one DVB-C (cable) card, giving you all-round flexibility.


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jumpa777 30/11/2007 02:30
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A good article but:

1. While you concentrated on the IR functionality of the case, you didn't mention the noise the supplied fans create. Given you've gone to all that trouble (and expense) of finding a fanless power supply why do you not consider case fan noise. Is it because the case is supplied with low noise fans? Have you measured the noise? What is the noise?
2. If you are so concerned about noise why not suggest that video data is stored on a server somewhere else and the OS be put on Compact Flash.
€30 to eliminate "data" noise completely for the life of you system seems positively cheap. Hard drive quietening solutions are not as effective or as cheap.
3. Is it me or does the case look like it would take up half your lounge(unless your lounge is the size of London)? Not exactly small it is? I can't think of anyone's living room that it wouldn't look intrusive in.
galespurehoney 30/11/2007 03:41
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1. i would ideally go for something like HFX's mini htpc case. fans are the enemy of a comfortable living room environment. even the hard disk whine of my Sky+ box irritates the heck out of me.
2.Agreed, i'm definatly going to go the compact flash option, and have a networked media server somewhere where it won't be as obtrusive.
3.Agreed again, what is it with these so called HTpc boxes that are big enough to hold a swimming pool? we have mATX mainboards, and half height cards, why not use them?

my inital idea is to get an HP DC7700 small form factor machine, still on the big side for a media centre machine, but a third the size of that offering. still fit a normal size 5.25" optical drive, and 3.5" hard disk. still got pciE x1, pciE x16, and 2x normal pci slots for half height cards. got a pciE NV8500 with HDMI, 4Gb ram (don't want paging on a compact flash drive)...

anyway, my only question is, how are you able to get dual satallite tuners to work with one CAM smart card module?
fulabeer 01/12/2007 04:42
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Good article, but a little late in the day!

I did a similar thread over at avforums.co.uk a long while a go...
http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348233

My media machine had to be low profile, and comes with a true low profile HDMI VGA card. (Sapphire 1600 HDMI etc)
The case has a has a IR port (and display) built in, and comes from standby with a normal MCE remote.
It is currently only running HD-DVDs, but i do intend to change to a multi HD drive.

I didn't bother with tuner cards as we don't get HD broadcasts via terrestial TV. (YET!)

It is near silent when running, and didn't cost the earth!

Bye Bye...:)
fulabeer 01/12/2007 05:13
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Good article, but a little late in the day!
I did a similar thread over at avforums.co.uk a long while a go...
http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348233

My media machine had to be low profile, and comes with a true low profile HDMI VGA card. (Sapphire 1600 HDMI etc)
The case has a has a IR port (and display) built in, and comes from standby with a normal MCE remote.
It is currently only running HD-DVDs, but i do intend to change to a multi HD drive.

I didn't bother with tuner cards as we don't get HD broadcasts via terrestial TV. (YET!)

It is near silent when running, and didn't cost the earth!

Bye Bye...:)
mras@cdk 02/12/2007 08:00
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You tell there no Intel alternativ to the AMD which support HDPC and HDMI, then what about G35?
as use on Asus P5E V(M)HDMI!

robinj5 03/12/2007 03:50
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Why do this when soon you can do most of this for a fraction of the price and hassle?

Although I have been using a HTPC with Windows MCE(XP and Vista) for the last 2 and half years, im afraid early next year I will be dropping it. I have come to realise that to run, and keep up to date my Media Center is a constant and expensive hassle, with worries about heat, silence, power consumption, speed, drivers, cpu consumption, codecs, configuration etc.

I will admit that a well spec'd HTPC is very flexible, should be less hassle and can look good too, but it is still not perfect for something the Mrs can use! Even though she does see its uses and has been sold on the idea I cringe evertime i have to tell her to restart the TV! They are still not perfect as a living room entertainment device for the average user.

Early next year Sony releases the PlayTV twin tuner for the PS3. This is where my money is going next. It can do Photos, Music, Videos, uPnp network streaming, internet browsing, HD and Blu-Ray and now a full twin tuner PVR but is also quiet, user friendly and hassle free. Thats without even mentioning the gaming, all for £300!

Yes, i understand the HTPC is more flexible and upgradeable but I hope you all see my point?

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