QOTD: Do You Think Moon Landing Was Faked?
With the 40th anniversary of NASA's Apollo 11 moon landing upon us, we want to know just how many of you really believe America actually had men walk on the moon on July 20, 1969.
Over the years, there have been tons of conspiracy theories to suggest the whole thing was a hoax. Non-believers have only been encouraged by last week's news that the National Aeronautics Space Administration lost the original footage of the lunar landing.
The official story is 45 tapes of Apollo 11 footage were erased a few years back so that NASA could use the tape for something else. Sure, it happens to us all (I erased my best friend's copy of The Sword and the Stone when I was five) but shouldn't the original copy of the moon landing be stored somewhere safe or at least have a nice big label that says, "Historic moment in history, please DO NOT record over." (Besides, has nobody at NASA heard of flicking the bloody tab on old analog tapes?!)
Last week's events aside, you've got the usual arguments like the fact that the flag appears to be waving and there weren't any stars in the sky. Some even think that NASA killed the Apollo 1 astronauts on purpose because they were ready to talk to the press about the Moon Hoax and how desperate NASA was to win the race to the Moon. For more theories, check out Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy blog.
Today's QOTD is: Do you Think NASA Faked the Moon Landing?
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If any landing was faked it would only be the original Apollo 11.
There's a lot of contradicting "evidence" to support and discredit the video footage and photos so it's all a mess, but given that JFK said they *will* be on the surface of the moon by the end of the decade and the fact that the Apollo programme was a miserable failure for so long, July 1969 is cutting it awfully close.
I can honestly believe as a propaganda, motivational and fuck-the-commies stunt something could've been faked if NASA just wasn't ready - the complete-and-functioning Saturn 5 was sent up, deployed the working-but-can't-get-to-the-moon-quite-yet command module into orbit for a week or so, ran all the "video footage" into the world stream and then brought the astronauts back to earth, claiming it was all fantastic and the US had won the space race..
This gave NASA time to work out the kinks in the operation with the pressure now off them to get it done before 1970.
As it turned out Apollo 12 was launched and successful in November 1969 so NASA still would've hit JKF's deadline and never needed to fake Apollo 11 after all.
I do often wonder why Neil Armstrong sounds like he's reciting a script whenever he talks about it and why Buzz Aldrin refuses to discuss it and has been known to have near-breakdowns when the topic comes up - poor guy would've been living such a huge lie for so long.
This question annoys me. Just read this, it goes into it better than I can: http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
I find it pretty unkind to say to all these people that were involved in this one amazing endeavour that they were lying. The best thing Buzz Aldrin did in his life was to land on the moon. The second best was to punch a moon conspiracy theorist.
I dislike conspiracy theories and their proponents as a general rule, as they have a nasty habit of saying that anyone who can show they might be wrong is "in on the whole thing". Like they're the ones with the answer to everything, and not some loon in their mother's basement with a tinfoil hat. Gah.
Of cause it was real. What a stupid non-article.
The landings were real, its the moon that isn't.
While they might have been able to fool the unsuspecting public with a fake landing they would never have been able to fool the comies. They would have loved nothing more than to disgrace America by revealing it as a sham if it were one.
why wouldn't Nasa do it again? since it was 1960's compared to now..its far more advance..but i dont think its real..if its real they would do it all over again until now..
With a project this large and after 40 years if it was fake someone in the project would have spilled the beans and there would be verifiable evidence that it was a fake. All the theories supposedly "proving" its fake like how the flag is "waving" and all that shite have all been debunked.
@skalagon:
The only thing I've yet to see explained is how or why some pictures have objects, such as the lunar rover, over the top of the camera calibration marks.
Everything else has been covered.
@LePhuronn - Ask, and ye shall receive.
http://www.clavius.org/photoret.html
About two thirds of the way down, the section that begins "The crosshairs are partially covered in some photographs. This suggests that the photographs were composed by cutting and pasting objects over the background images, obscuring the crosshairs in the process." It's quite a good explanation of the issue.
why wouldn't Nasa do it again? since it was 1960's compared to now..its far more advance..but i dont think its real..if its real they would do it all over again until now..
Because it cost the 1960's equivilant of $20billion.
It won't be cheap now either.
I asked some people in a UFO forum how many believed there is enough evidence to prove earth has been visited by beings from another planet. Most believe there is. Then I asked how many believed the Apollo program put men on the moon and returned them to earth. Most of the same people believed the Apollo program was a hoax.
Some people prefer a world where their imaginations aren't hampered by evidence, logic, probability and reasoning. Hey everybody, Bush didn't do 911, it was Obama.
It was faked.
No
If they hadn't gone Russia would have pointed it out and someone from the hundreds involved would have let something slip, so I think they went. It is possible that there was a technical glitch that stopped footage coming back, so the video was faked.
We didn't have any cheese until then, and now we do. so yes it must have been real. ;o)
The Russians would have been all over them if they faked it. The whole world was watching, hundreds of spies were watching. A lot was riding on the failure of the moon shot, but yet there was no denial from the Russians or anyone else. This whole consipiracy theory is a relatively new thing. As time moves on more and more ignorant people entertain it. Opening a debate about this is just chasing after something to talk about... We should rather discuss how amazing it must have been to hop along the surface of the moon for those select few; and where should we go next.
Mythbusters actually did a show on the subject and pretty much debunked all the evidence people point to that it was faked. Interesting episode.
I was reading an article on the BBC earlier today with details of payloads for various spacecraft and other guff. The Saturn V carries just over 5 times more payload than the Shuttle, the Shuttle was supposed to be cheaper to run because it was re-usable but in the end cost almost the same. The US made it to the moon, it cost a stupid amount of money and the technology was robust but unsustainable. At the end of the day there is no real reason to go back to the moon so why spend the equivalent of $20 billion just to show people bouncing along in HD? Waste of money, waste of time. Spend the money giving all the people in the US a free health service you idiots!
'I erased my best friend's copy of The Sword and the Stone when I was five'...tut tut tut
Yes it was real, watch MYTHBUSTERS on the moon landings, they quuite clearly BUST all the myths about shadows and flags etc. DO a google search for MYTHBUSTERS MOON LANDING here is a link for it
Here is something you people tend to overlook, Neil's Armstrong missing words. I can't really remember when did he said it was exactly, but NASA cut him right away of air as soon as he said "we are not alone". This is maybe what really gives the gusbumps to Amstrong every time some one brings back the Subject.
Have you ever though of a career telling creepy stories to kids round the campfire? Absolute tosh! Show me a youtube vid or give some kind of reference.